I'm interested in hyperdimensional objects that are shown to us, kinda like this 4d cube animation. What kinds of objects have you seen like this?

http://www.youtube.com/w...iDM8&feature=related


I have seen an object very similar to this on three occasions in HS. The faster it spins, the more euphoria is felt......that makes me crazy right?

My experience is that they are used for bartering.....

everytime they show me a 4d or higher object i seem to freak out. It feels like a innate reaction rather than a conscious one on my part. I gasp and my mind ...'freaks out" i feel like they showed me something i'm not capable of handling...like i'm not biologically allowed to see whats being shown to me.

Yeah same here, I can remember seeing something like that 600-Cell, only in "fullscreen", like there were thousands of them conjoined together, and i absolutely HATED it, just because I couldnt comprehend it in the slightest bit. (Actually seeing that youtube video brought those feelings of slight disgust back in an instant. weird, hehe)

I actually like those 4D objects that spice has shown me. If I see those, even if I don't breakthrough, I consider the trip an overall success.

I often see “impossible” objects. Not sure they’re 4D, but quite sure that I wouldn’t be able to perceive them in a sober state. It’s always very pleasant, and I’m able to appreciate the beauty, intricacy, and “impossibility” of the objects while viewing them, but I’m also aware that I won’t remember what they look like when I leave.

I remember once seeing “impossible” objects coming out of a box – one after the other in quick succession. I was amazed and thought to myself “This could be a whole new art form!”. Then I quickly realized that these were “impossible” objects and thought “Oh, I won’t remember what any of these things look like when I get back.”

It’s strange to be able to perceive something in all of it’s detail and beauty, and even while perceiving it, to know that you won’t bring back meaningful memories of those perceptions!

again to me i had what i can only describe as a natural feeling of disgust, shock, and confusion when shown these objects. What i vaguely vaguely remember is a twisted mess in super super High Defintion. like a square or even tubes all twisted together in IMPOSSIBLE angles, and my innate brain realized the impossability of what i was shown...and somewhat "freaked" in disgust for lack of a better word. I remember grunting out loud whenever shown these objects and trying to turn away. however whatever is showing them seems pretty excited to show them and it feels like there is an anticipation in the air each time prior to the reveal.

I think the objects that are being shown are mathmatically PERFECT and somehow subconsciously we recognize that fact. For example you can only imagine a perfect circle, but it is impossible to draw one according to physics. Same with even drawing a perfect line! However through math we can compute theoretically a perfect circle, and also through your mind you can theoretically imagine one.

thus the objects shown, are in my opinion mathmatically flawless...hence... of a divine nature. UNLIKE the creatures showing them to you.

anyone agree? disagree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_beauty


take a peak at that link

Yeah, the visions of these objects are proof that it roots from some higher source. Most people can't even do calculus so how can someone hallucinate such perfection?

Since I've adjusted my changa ratio to 1:1.618 (Spice : 22x Caapi) I have found a world of the most beautiful geometries that respond to tones all along the scale & corresponding Chakral colors.

Those links are quite nice, thank you

You mean the Chakral colors within you at the time?

During my last experience i saw some kind of box with smoothly rounded edges, it had alienesque hyroglyphics rotating within it, the box was a light neon green colour.

I always think of these things as if a caveman was to be shown a modern day room. He would not be able to comprehend it at all. It is the same with ourselves and these objects. I agree with the mathematical perfection, everything in hyperspace seems to be as if it were the blue print (though it's more like ultra-violet print) of the normally perceived world. I doubt the objects are impossible, but just so incomprehensible that we declare them so.

Yes



Very fragile & delicate and totally interactive. I predose with 50mg of Ǣtherithine (a balanced mixture of THH & Harmine) and play in endless horizons of butterfly fields & harmonic thought structures.

Why? What would be beyond his comprehension about a modern day room? The four walls? The floor? The ceiling? Perhaps some of the technology contained in the room would be beyond his comprehension, but as a physical, 3d being, I think he'd comprehend the room just fine... The flat-lander analogy fits this relationship much better, imo.

Guys, before everyone goes off on a 4-D object fest (i recall some strangled conversation here about 'hypersex'... )
just remember that what you bring, you get!

So why don't you just intend to show some beings strange, unusual and fascinating things yourself?
Although it seems like quite a low-level intention, for DMT.

In what sense are we talking about four-dimensional objects? It can be a wooly area in mathematics (you can have any amount of coordinate axis in euclidean space geometry) but for the purposes of my own understanding i would consider time to be the fourth spacial dimension (beyond the three dimensions of length, width and height), and as such the extremities of the fourth dimension are thus past and future.

During a DMT experience (and other psychedelics for that matter), when an object reveals itself to have four dimensions, can we conclude that we're experiencing said object without the dimension of time affecting the definition of its shape? Consider that you might be able to look at the front AND the back of your hand simultaneously? Or perhaps you can see the front and the side of a three dimensional shape at the same time? I know i've had this experience and whilst totally baffling to perceive with the application of a little science it does become easier to rationalise retrospectively (provided you can remember, of course!).

That said, i have also experienced shapes that are at once cuboid and spherical - these have been brought to me by entities like gifts that seem to recreate themselves at will. I have no idea how to rationalise this version of a similar effect. Perhaps there's a solution lying in quantum physics, i dont know...

Time is considered another dimension but not a spacial dimension. Physicists theorize other spacial dimensions that we can't see as humans, but believe exist. We can however, picture what the shadow of a 4d oject would look like since shadows appear as constructs that are 1 dimension less than the object light is cast on. It shows here.

i appreciate time is not normally considered a spatial dimension hence why i disclaimed my point by saying it helped to consider it this way only as means to explain the peculiarity of things like seeing two sides of the same thing simultaneously. perhaps its less misleading to refer to this as an interaction with spacetime rather than the fourth dimension. thats what i'm talking about, at least. certainly i'm less fascinated with the abstract concept of the fourth dimension than i am with the bizarre manifold of the spacetime continuum.