really bad emulsion right there

Don't use the QT tek. It doesn't work.

holy shit
use noman,vovin, q1..,one of theese,QT is the past

When I first took on the journey years ago I used QT's tek it was why me and several other wrote our own teks because it is problematic at best.

I like that ^ the evolution of teks...straight from the people who tweaked them.

I have a question - if I've had an amazing 1st pull, and 2nd pull was good - if I put them in the freezer for 8-12 hours, crashing a fair amount of DMT, then pour around 60ml off with some new solvent into my jug to use as a pull - is there any chance the DMT from this saturated "recycled" pull will migrate back into the mimosa soup?? I'm thinking that it isn't, but just asking as some of you know more chemistry dynamics than me, it's been a while since I used any theory. THanks

Wow, thanks for all the replies. endlessness I have a followup question.

If all one has to do to eliminate the impurites is dissolve,re-basify,re-extract then why don't people do this more often? i.e. shake the bajeezus out of it, extract the impure emulsion, freeze,dissolve,re-basify etc. I'm thinking this might make the re-extraction phase so much easier and allow for a larger volume of naptha to come in contact with the basified solution during the first extraction.

vovin I checked out your tek - fresh my man, big ups :-)

I do it quite regularly. It is fun. It takes some experience and proper equipment, otherwise there may be substantial losses.



Instead of shaking I use magnetic stirrer. It can run completely unattended. If you run it on low there is no emulsion at all. Why create more troubles than necessary? Even if you decide to re-extract your product, better input always means better output.

Not really getting any replies in my extraction thread so can anyone here tell me if re-Xing after doing Q21's tek (w/naphtha) is necessary?

I have nice white/clear crystals, they give of a vibe of shiny purity, but im not sure if Lime is at all soluble in naphtha & if that would be nasty to smoke

Im not bothered about growing big crystals just yet as they're gonna be crushed to release trapped solvent anyway...
On a side note i can't stop looking at my beautiful harvest of crystals

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=11715

hope it helps

Cheers, the last one (no4) is very important, i feel what i have is very pure, im happy with it so will go for it... it is very powdered & i cut it several times with a razor to get it very fine & allowed all naphtha to evap for about 2 hours after chopping it up.

I should do an evap test but i've been using behlen naphtha & i read a few people saying its very clean, it's still no excuse for not doing it myself really, i may leave a tray evapping tommorrow just to make sure...

I should be sampling it over this weekend, can't bloody wait! I got a huge smile just thinking about it...
I really like the feeling of taking DMT that i've extracted myself, it just adds something special to the experience

I've seen you use Q21's tek endlessness (unless i misread/mixed up a post) do you usually re-X afterwards?
Also, while im asking any tips on not losing Naphtha in the mix? Add more lime to make the mix very dry?

no I never used q21's tek, so I cant really help you with the naphtha loss in the sludge, maybe others with experience in this tek can say. I guess if you make enough pulls, the relative amount of dmt that will be trapped in the loss naphtha will be minimal.

I rather use limonene, also seems yields are better. Since I go for fumarate precipitation and later water conversion, I have no fear of solvent traces so I dont have to re-x. I would recommend you try limo next time. At least for me it made the whole thing even more special. And yeah man I think a lot of us know exactly what you mean with how much nicer it is to use something you've extracted yourself. Now imagine growing the plant, harvesting sustainably and then extracting, that has to feel amazing

I was thinking about the limo thing last night, makes so much more sense to use something natural like that, i will def look into it for next time, i wanna buy loads of the stuff for household cleaning so might aswell kill two birds with one stone...

Great I think that clears up on of the final questions SWIM had. So do you basically follow BLAB steps 4-6 then or is your water conversion something different or extra? SWIM wasn't sure if there was somewhere that made sense to wash in a Food Grade way here or if it was unnecessary due to the steps taken. He does remember Minxx saying in a thread that she washes her spice with just plain distilled water.

SWIM was planning on FASW>Sodium Carbonate solution exactly as lined out in BLAB 4b-6.

OK so I extracted about 3.8 grams from 2 lbs MHRB using A/B (following Volvins tek for the most part). Then I proceeded with a recrystallization with warm heptane and there was a lot of the yellow oily stuff at the bottom. I evaporated both in my vacuum chamber and I got exactly 1.9 of each substance. One is yellow and rock like the other what seems to be pure white NN-DMT crystals. Here are pictures. What exactly is the yellow stuff?? Is it DMT N-Oxide? It just seems really odd that it was exactly half

Edit: So I'm realizing it must be N-Oxide, but that usually stays gooey right?

Edit#2: I think after reading the DMT N-Oxide to freebase DMT thread I realized that I would have probably gotten more white dmt out of this recrystallization if I had stirred around the yellow gooey part at the bottom to free the DMT from it. Maybe I will do another recrystallization to try and get some more white stuff together, or could this be a waste of time?

I would guess its mostly dmt with a few plant impurities (oils and what not). You can just recrystallize the yellow stuff if you want, and it should clean up nicely

Good one Endlessness, thanks. I recrystallized the yellow and got an additional 360mg of the white stuff. But the yellow stuff that remains is N-Oxide right?

Among other stuff, yes.

The more you try pulling from it (or in other words recrystallise out of it) with heptane the more dmt you will be removing and the more oily this residue will stay.

I follow the q21 tek. Despite the quality of the final product appears to be pretty clean, re-X removes even more impurities and produces a product even more clean, beautiful and delicious. I personally decided to always make a re-X, even when the product appears to be perfect.

Regarding the naphtha caught in the mix, I noticed the loss is so small that there is no reason to waste time with this. It is better to pay attention to evaporation, trying to minimize naphtha losses by working with closed jars, for example.

swim got some eptane dichloropropane mix..dunno ratio he bought it in a paint store..so here the questiono you think hot washing the polar pulled solution with it will give to swim some actives?

What do you experts think about this theory:

SWIM does an A/B extraction with an NPS called "X". X evaps without any residue but by itself it is toxic.
Solvent X evaps cleanly and dry crystals remain. Some of the X molecules might still be there trapped in the crystal structure.
SWIM dissolves the dry X contaminated crystals in pure ethanol (or some other non-toxic solvent), and let evap again.
Dry crystals form again, is this a good way of getting rid of "toxic solvent molecules trapped within crystal structures"?