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alzabo
#41 Posted : 10/23/2010 4:37:24 AM

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I had a very good experience mixing cactus and kratom together. I ended up re-dosing the kratom halfway through the cactus trip because it lasts for like 4-5 hours while the cactus lasts for 10+ hours. I intend to experiment with this combo again as it was a good mix of psychedelic and feel good. I forget how much mass I ingested. Probably about 40g san pedro and 2x3-4g kratom. Next time I want to add a small mushroom friend to the mix as well.
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#42 Posted : 10/23/2010 1:46:53 PM

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alzabo wrote:
I had a very good experience mixing cactus and kratom together. I ended up re-dosing the kratom halfway through the cactus trip because it lasts for like 4-5 hours while the cactus lasts for 10+ hours. I intend to experiment with this combo again as it was a good mix of psychedelic and feel good. I forget how much mass I ingested. Probably about 40g san pedro and 2x3-4g kratom. Next time I want to add a small mushroom friend to the mix as well.

It sounds like it might be a good combo, but ugh the nausea! That would make me feel extremely nauseous. Kratom alone makes me want to hurl Very happy
 
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#43 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:59:48 AM

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Seems like the best area to post this.

Friday night I went out to a local pub/club (where I go with my friends who arn't into other drugs decides alcohol).I thereat least once every 3 weeks or so. It's not a terrible place, just some of the younger males can be dicks. Anyways I had 6-8 drinks then my friends brother said he had a bit of speed, I asked if I could try some and he seemed pretty keen to see what I thought of it as it was my first time. A good 20 mins later I was feeling pretty damn good but I still realised that I really didn't do enough as I was just testing the waters type thing. When I got home at around 1AM I had 3 bowls of some hydgie. I havn't done much drug combining but it seemed like a pretty good combo. Thoughroughly enjoyed myself, Its nice to think that if you don't want to go into some deep, serious shit, like a psychedelic trip that may show you some interesting things about yourself, that you have the option of not going too deep and just having a laugh and shit with some friends. Because I mean the average folk (I think) wouldn't do intense psychedelic trips that regually - DMT every 2-3 weeks, keeping on the path and then something like booze and MDMA every 2 or 3 weeks to chill with the friends that stay away from weed (or anything else) all together. But double nice to think that I have friends who have open minds who will happily do psychedelics with me, and its funny how I have a much stronger bond with the more psychedelic'y friends and I havn't known them any where near as long as my friends I went to school with. They just won't be envolved in anything to do with entheogens/drugs when they don't even know what they would be envolving themselves in...

Anyways, thats my rant!

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#44 Posted : 11/14/2010 7:07:40 AM

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There seem to be quite a few 2C-I fans here. I guess I'll have to try it someday. Personally I'm a big fan of 2C-E, low doses (around 15-20mg) are great at parties. It combos well with spice too...though I can't imagine trying to run that combo at a club :^P

I've been playing around with 2CT2 lately but I don't see much club-drug potential in it unfortunately.
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#45 Posted : 11/14/2010 3:13:32 PM

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BenevolentSon wrote:
its funny how I have a much stronger bond with the more psychedelic'y friends and I havn't known them any where near as long as my friends I went to school with.

Definitely. People I've tripped with I always seem to have a much stronger rapport with than people I just hang out with and shoot the shit. Psychedelics, the friend maker! Laughing
 
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#46 Posted : 11/14/2010 3:38:59 PM

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I had a very enjoyable night on Friday night. The combination was 20mg AMT, a few dabs of MDMA, generous quantities of alcohol and a few tokes on some marijuana/hashish cigarettes. AMT is completely legal here in the UK. I haven't done any MDMA in years so this was an extra special treat for me. It was a new friend's 23rd birthday party, in a South London flat, and I only knew 3 people there. Her boyfriend was DJing, another friend, and another lady friend was also there, a very close friend and someone I also happen to be madly and deeply in love with, and for the first ever time. Later in the eve a German friend who was my roommate when I first went to uni many years ago, surprised me by turning up which was cool.

Anyway, I digress... this was a social experiment with AMT. I had sampled it a few times, and found the internal glow it provided enjoyable and social. It takes 3 hours to fully make it presence known. The girl whose birthday it was, her boyfriend, my lady friend, one of her close friends and the person I connected to most while there, another house mate, and myself all ingested 20mg around 9:45.

AMT is a creeper...takes it slow to come on. I think maybe we took it a bit too late. More and more people continued to arrive, none of whom I knew, yet I was in a good space. The vast majority of these people were fellow Imperial College students, all scientists, and I had some very stimulating, interesting and otherwise mind expanding chats with people involved in science very different to that of mine. A few hours in, my friend who birthday it was started saying she felt confused and anti-social. I felt really guilty!! I only wanted her to have fun! However I thought this was the come up affecting her, and it wasn't a high dose of AMT. So later we had a little MDMA...and that got everything rolling! There was a little sensory enhancement, but nothing too intense. Lots of good chats, meeting some new cool people, dancing, drinking, a few embraces here and there...and we were all on a very nice level...danced/partied to 9 AM, then I had a strong desire to curl up in a dark room. A similar thing happened to my German friend regarding the confusion, although he took it much later than the rest of us.

So if experimenting with AMT I would suggest taking it in very good time before things kick off, and don't do too much. I would also like to report, despite the range of things ingested, there was no real hangover or comedown to speak of! In fact today I feel curiously at peace, mellow and chilled. Was a good night! Cool
 
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#47 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:15:12 PM

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Interesting..I was innterested in AMT about 18 months ago when I came across it at a weekend psy event..I sat and dosed a few people with DMT and salvia and was then offered all sorts of 2c substances and AMT..I decided to wait until I could research it more, and found mostly reports from people who did not like it here and other places..so I never persued it..

Can you go into a bit more detail pertaining to the AMT experience in general?
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#48 Posted : 11/14/2010 4:32:13 PM

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Well apparently AMT is neurotoxic in a similar way to MDMA for starters, its not the klind of thing that I feel should be used much (like MDMA) and I have only used it 3 times, and won't be using it again in a hurry, 10/12 hours is a big commitment for me these days. However of the times I have used it, I have never had a come down or hangover (the same also applies for MDMA with me, although I only use it once or twice a year, if at all...VERY rare for me).

My first experience was on my own on a lazy uni-based Saturday. I took 15mg, then 3 hours later took another 15mg. At these levels it was pretty gentle on my system...come up is long and gentle, although one's stomach feels a bit funny on the come up, but I never got any pressing nausea or came close to vomiting. Many people report headaches later on in the experience, but I can't say I experienced these. Little desire for food. For my first experience, I would describe the feeling as my insides/heart glowing like a toaster oven. A gentle, positive, euphoric push...much less manic than MDMA. More time to chill and enjoy it...seems like a flexible buzz as well, good for dancing and being active, and good for chilling. Lightly psychedelic at this level, colour enhancement, very subtle patterning, but I feel socially lucid and clear, your mental faculties all seem relatively intact. Nothing profound, earth-shattering, life changing or particularly fascinating or engrossing like the full on psychedelics (but you're not really seeking that in a party environment!), but fun nonetheless. I think the MDMA I ingested modulated the whole experience in a positive fashion on the third experience. It's definitely not one of my favourites, but I'm glad I tried it out for myself to so what it was like. Apparently impressive psychedelic effects can be experienced at higher doses, but the side effects are much more prominent, so I would rather take something else. Experiences seem to vary widely between different people with this stuff. I think it would be good festival-friendly material. The come up is long and drawn out, and this is best gotten out of the way in good time before one plans to make use of it.
 
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#49 Posted : 11/14/2010 7:58:34 PM
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There was this calamus thread. Was a bit of a question whether calamus contained a substance that is metabolised into AMT or something simmilar.
Have you ever used calamus and could you confirm that it's simmilar to AMT?
 
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#50 Posted : 11/14/2010 10:02:30 PM

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Sorry dude I have no experience with calamus.
 
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