Awe shucks your awrite too lol

Thumbs up Dalai Lama is the man By the way I have a photo of me taken with him I usually don't give a fuck about celebrities but I am proud of that photo

@ Electric.Sight
Hey my first post was in no way addressed at you. I hadn't even read all the posts. I just wanted to post my view. It was you that took it to yourself. That might tell you something about yourself.

Hey I honestly respect your point of view. I'm your friend here

I think part of being enlightened is the ability to restrain ones feelings of anger/hatred even if one has been wronged; being able to walk away from a situation where there exisits foolishness or vanity with a farewell greeting of 'peace'.

Hatred as an existential phenomenon clearly exists and does have a purpose.Hatred as an emotion needs to be made distinct from hatred with consequent action.

If one comes across something they hate (like seeing humanity starving etc) one should change it with their hand if they are able.If this is not possible then to speak out about it is next best.Failing this, they should allow their detestation to at least be harboured within the heart.

Thats my theory, but as we all know the intellectual appreciation of an idea is not the same as incorporating it into ones life as it should be-this is not quite so easy.

has anyone noticed their postings here are all out of order besides me?

I noticed it to, my deleted posts were my failed attempts at fixing it lol.

It can definitely relate to me lol
I'm guilty of over-thinking things quite often. Maybe I should stop with the cannabinoids lol. I edited all my posts because they were completely unnecessary for this discussion.
I may have unintentionally attracted negative attention, I have been in a negative state of mind recently, and I think my stoned rant reflected it. It has nothing to do with this site and I shouldn't be venting my frustration here. Life has ups and downs, I'll be positive again soon enough.

Have a good one everyone!

Great post, Vovin, Although admittedly, I didn't like it at first.
Temperance is a virtue.



Yeah, absoloutely! Almost 100% of the time when somone says 'enlighten me' they really mean: 'you're not enlightened... just explain blahblahblah to me and you'll see!'

This post was out of line, once again sorry!

Communities cohere around values. It's extremely immature to expect any types of attitudes to be embraced. Especially with a group strongly oriented to virtuous behaviour. The Nexus links all new members to the Attitude section and displays it prominently at the top of the page to make this explicit.

Lesson is being learned.

I probably at the beginning of this post should have chosen my words more wisely. At the time I did not know it would get this much attention nor did I expect it to be stickied. It's very easy to read too much into or not enough into a post as you cannot tell from typed words the tone of voice nor do you know the person you are talking to beyond a basic level. Life has it's ups and downs. Time has a way of clearing the emotions from a reaction and allowing me to see that I was speaking in anger or defensively.

Oftentimes myself I find in the middle of typing a reply I decide that I will not hit the post and wait a day and re read it. Often then I see that my state of mind as well as my attitude at the time has caused me to totally misinterpret what was said. It is one of the reasons why I do not have that many posts under my belt. Communication is a complicated thing, doubly so when you are speaking across nations to cultures and people you have never known. When something angers or annoys me I make a point of not posting or replying on it for at least a day so that I may look upon it and reflect as to why.

Personally I believe all are enlightened who seek to better themselves as I do not see enlightenment as a destination or goal but a way of life. All on the path regardless of where they are in my mind are enlightened each day they move forward. Nor do I think the enlightenment for one is the same as that of another. I hope that all would follow their own path and follow none other. While we may walk aside one another for awhile the journey is a lonely one. The wisdom is in the journey not the destination for me.

Some days I look back on my writings and see them as profound and others I look at and feel myself to be a complete fool. So much so as to embarrass myself. We are not always at our best every day.

ACTUALLY, I believe completely the opposite. I am beginning to think that whatever I achieved was only a tiny, tiny taste of what is possible. by doing something special in our lives, such as giving up all worldly possessions, we could make it possible to have this oneness experience again and again (it already is possible to do that, That state of being is infinite.... but I mean: to have it more frequently in our lifetime)

However, I'm pretty sure you get groups of people who I will call 'oneness addicts' who have had a taste of it before, or remember it strongly from when they were there last, and seek to return to it. it is after-all, a state of great, great joy, but also, unfathomable responsibility.

By the way: I am not concerned at all about how people behave toward eachother, and as you said: "act". Nirvana is above all acts.


Those are wise words Vovin, and also magickal teachings of the highest order... and so I did. I do.

I don't think your opinions on hate caused much problem, but you took a very antagonistic attitude throughout. Also, schizm's joke was completely out of line and inappropriate for the forum. Your defense of it, and the self-centered line of reasoning it contained really spoke loudly. It seems to me that you jump from point to point on the surface of what this thread addressed instead of thinking about the underlying issues.

Ragabr: I know I can come on a little strong with my arguments, but it's this constant questioning of everything that allows me to grow.

Edit: I am seeing things a little differently from my interactions in this thread, so I guess I can't argue with results.

I didn't read the whole thread, but wanted to say I like the distinction that emotions are one thing and feelings are another. Emotions can often lead us astray, while feelings are more intuition. This is how I tend to operate. Weather the emotions, pay attention to the feelings.

I really think that post by schizm was inappropriate as well. I find it somewhat dissapointing that people would come back here with the defence that we should just accept others opinions etc..thats fine and all..I am all for accepting others for what they believe and letting them be if they arent harming others..but that is not the point here..the point is that there is a time and a place for everything..this is the DMT nexus..not the woman bashing or discrimination nexus..I have no idea if schizm actaully feels that way about women or not, and personally I couldnt care less..but either way it has no place here. We are all here to talk about psychedelics and topics related to each section of the forum, and discriminating jokes about women to that degree really dont have any relevance here, whether or not some find them funny.

And none of this is an attack on schizm..just an observation on a single post that seems way out of context in relation to the DMT nexus.

I agree the joke had no relevance to this site whatsoever, but what's done is done. People paid attention to it and it became a big deal, I just ignored it and went about my day. By bringing it to the light, we've effectively broadcast this joke to a wider audience than if we had just ignored it.

You are right..we give things power or the lack of it according to the degree we focus on it..we evoke worlds into being each time we allow any idea to take residence inside of us, and when our language then starts to reflect that idea that world then grows like a virus..we are the narriators of this story and that realization brings with it a certain level of personal responciblity.

This is key. Thanks frac.

^^^agreed

I'll leave this one with Love, Happy Halloween everyone!

electricsight- just a few thoughts id like to add to the topic at hand. personally i cant stand the word enlightened. it always sounds so pious and if we are referring to the state of being that people like the Buddha and Dalia llama supposedly achieved i strongly doubt anyone here is enlightened. i know its just a word and has different meaning for many but it gets thrown around here quite more than im used to.

like vovin said in hind sight he probably would have chosen different words to express his sentiment had he only known we would be on page 4 still picking apart every little word a year later/

warning to all poster- ya never know when your words will be made a sticky so choose wisely!!!!

next thought- you were making points about older members telling people how to live and i must say i dont see that at all. i mean you have a few bad apples that do but thats to be expected. however i do think most of the older memers are on the same page and why wouldnt they be?
our common pursuit is our common bond.

i dont like it when people expect the community to be so Christ-like in all matters just because there on the nexus a mod, or senior member ext... other than some ass-clown like poor joke i never saw anyone attack you like your posts keep implying. i don't know you as a person but on the nexus you are defensive, period. thats not an attack or a judgment its an observation of your expressions. again that's just my opinion.

its even more baffling that your surprised at getting this much resistance advocating hate as a good teaching tool ext on a forum where love is a dominant goal. honestly ive never heard anyone rally for hate anywhere in life let alone here. that doesn't make you wrong but for this environment its almost a radical view and should be expected to make some waves. not usually a bad thing.

you haven't made me angry, i don't think less of your mind and ideas and id probably guess your a good chap. we just don't agree. many people here don't agree. this doesn't make those that don't ganging up on you its just means more of the community here doesn't seem to agree with your logic. that's all. you don't need to feel so attacked and threatened.

you have made some great points and just about everyone involved has expressed that at least once. look for the good and it will stand out more. look for the negative and you will surely find it.