Jared
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How many inches of san pedro cactus would you recommend to consume for a first time experience?
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I'd say that sounds good. It depends largely on how good your cactus is, but even if it's great you shouldn't be overpowered.
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agreed, first time i did it i shared 12" but it isnt really enough. 12 to yourself would be about right. Oh great - the world has just been replaced by elf machinery. Sic transit gloria mundi
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The general consensus would be that fresh cactus contains 94% water, would I be correct? Therefore 100g dry would equate to ~1.6kg fresh? And I work that out to Virola78 wrote: 49cm - 7cm(tip to tip) of Pachanoi:
1336g Total weight 969g White flesh & core 319g Green flesh 48g Outer skin & spines
Therefore, 1.6kg fresh would equate to approximately 23 inches? So if 12 inches is a recommended first dose, that would equate to just over 50g? Would this be a fair enough assumption? The trees spoke to me through the wind. The more I listened, the more they spoke.
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i've got cacti that kick ass at 3-4"
so 12 could be too much, or too little
no way to accurately answer your question
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huachumancer
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24 inches of achuma given the base is between 3-4 inches 12 dosent cut it, dont be fooled, this plant has much to say LISTEN TO IT love with it at the peyote way church of god out west in the usa, they give 20 grams dried peyote as tea. typically if the outter 4 mm of green flesh is harvested (highest potency of alkaloids in the specimen) 1 foot yields 10 grams of dehydrated flesh, which by weight can equal the potency of some peyotes (given the specific specimen harvested) so shoot for 20 grams of flesh of trichocereus bridgesii, i promise you, you will have a story to tell, instead of the pseudo psychedelic masturbation that is simply 1 foot, AHAHAHAHAHA EAT YOUR VEGGIES. no matter the dose, it is still very healthy for you, for your body, for your mind, for you. it is antimicrobial and antidepressing in even the smallest of quantities. enjoy, but push yourself. only then will you have known the songs the cacti sing i used to think a foot was a solid trip, no. i was wrong. dont set your sites so low. get as much of this sacramental telepathic consciousness in your weak monkey suit and EVOLVE long live the cacti
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Ipuma Ayar wrote:24 inches of achuma given the base is between 3-4 inches 12 dosent cut it, dont be fooled, this plant has much to say LISTEN TO IT love with it at the peyote way church of god out west in the usa, they give 20 grams dried peyote as tea. typically if the outter 4 mm of green flesh is harvested (highest potency of alkaloids in the specimen) 1 foot yields 10 grams of dehydrated flesh, which by weight can equal the potency of some peyotes (given the specific specimen harvested) so shoot for 20 grams of flesh of trichocereus bridgesii, i promise you, you will have a story to tell, instead of the pseudo psychedelic masturbation that is simply 1 foot, AHAHAHAHAHA EAT YOUR VEGGIES. no matter the dose, it is still very healthy for you, for your body, for your mind, for you. it is antimicrobial and antidepressing in even the smallest of quantities. enjoy, but push yourself. only then will you have known the songs the cacti sing i used to think a foot was a solid trip, no. i was wrong. dont set your sites so low. get as much of this sacramental telepathic consciousness in your weak monkey suit and EVOLVE long live the cacti Wonderful Words! "The search for Truth is the Greatest, if not, most Sensible form of Rebellion."
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Ipuma Ayar wrote:typically if the outter 4 mm of green flesh is harvested (highest potency of alkaloids in the specimen) 1 foot yields 10 grams of dehydrated flesh, which by weight can equal the potency of some peyotes (given the specific specimen harvested) so shoot for 20 grams of flesh of trichocereus bridgesii, i promise you, you will have a story to tell, instead of the pseudo psychedelic masturbation that is simply 1 foot, AHAHAHAHAHA EAT YOUR VEGGIES. no matter the dose, it is still very healthy for you, for your body, for your mind, for you. it is antimicrobial and antidepressing in even the smallest of quantities. enjoy, but push yourself. only then will you have known the songs the cacti sing Wink
i used to think a foot was a solid trip, no. i was wrong. dont set your sites so low. get as much of this sacramental telepathic consciousness in your weak monkey suit and EVOLVE Wow man, I'm pretty sure you just convinced me to NOT share the results of my efforts extracting from 32 inches of bridgesii. It was skinny, and each foot weighed about 550-700g. I wasn't sure what kinda trip I wanted, that's why I hadn't drank the tea. But the way you sing it's name, I think I need a full experience. Except for a terrifying salvia experience, all my psychedelic excursions have been in the lower valleys and far from the higher views of peaks and plateaus. My first dose was 2 feet of san pedro, it wasn't that thick really, maybe 1400g of cactus? I could have handled more easily, but it was indeed warm, full of body fun, some visuals, and meditative in the end. My ego is insane, but I'm alright
The path of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. -William Blake
Lavos is a fictional character, a dream inside a dream. Don't take what he says to be true or representational of reality in any known form. He is inspired by pure fantasy.
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huachumancer
Posts: 1285 Joined: 02-Aug-2008 Last visit: 21-Sep-2024 Location: earf
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my interest in extraction ended after i ate 15 grams of t bridgesii grown in california, albeit id eaten 20 grams before but there is a variation in potency. the intensity of this 15 grams was such that salvia was rivaled (copied realities layered on each other, sign language from beings, dissolution into snakes spiders and 4 eyed cats known as sourpusses, and much much more) , indeed i did fast for 24 hours and ate it at 9 pm, but it was incredibly profound moreso than 1100 mg of very clean orange oil extracted hcl. what the extractions had done was give me a general idea of how much was in the cacti flesh, around 5% for these particular specimens. so from my calculations 10 grams of flesh (a foots worth of outter green flesh) yields around 500 mg of alkaloids.
i just ate another 20 grams after fasting 22 hours and discovered a serious lack of "oomph" this is the exact same substrate i used in the 15 gram trip and the same substrate i extracted yielding roughly 5%, the only difference was, i didnt smoke any pot, and i wont be for a while considering the power of mind i have now. im looking to peyote to show me more truth because as of now, 1 gram of mescaline is just "fun"
i sacrificed 12 feet of flesh to discover that 5% alkaloid concentration, but now, now i see that it in its natural form with fasting is still far superior to the extractions i had played with. now to be safe and to trip the hardest, i go back to the method i used the very first time
despine deskin deflesh outter 5mm dry flesh via fan/dehydrator consume after fasting by powdering and adding a little bit of water to make maleable paste balls chase with fruit flavored soda lay down close eyes breath and the rest will take care of itself...
IM SO HAPPY YOU GUYS ARE EATING FLESH! the man or whoever might try is going to have a very hard time prohibbiting vegetables vs locking you up for tampering with illicit xtals and solvents that are precursors to incriminating practice
(note i changed it to 5mm because of the lack of extraction now, previously i tried extracting cores, meh! so little in just a foot its simply a safety hazard for me so i chose this method)
the last 20 grams yielded a woman speaking, alternate realities being present, closed eye paternization, and a refreshing yoga/playing with my cat family at dawn in the yard, very mellow though. vs the 15 grams a week before that well told me i was entering a covenant with "the light" i breathed in what the christians would call the holy spirit and it filled my vessel, it was pure galactic love, promising me serenity and peace for the week to come. now i look towards peyote for a step up, and again my aya phone has begun to ring... the call is soon to be answered
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