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#1 Posted : 10/12/2010 6:59:12 PM
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I was just wondering, is it nice to put DMT in a joint?

Obviously the taste will not be so great, but a small line in a joint sounds like it could go down nice shared between a few friends.

Do any of you have some experience with this?
 

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#2 Posted : 10/12/2010 7:10:52 PM

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Its a very innefective mode of ingestion. You'll be wasting a lot of dmt, thats for sure.... I've tried it, thinking it might be interesting to have a couple of doses shared between two friends, sitting in a nice place in nature. It tasted bad, yes, and we had much less effects than what I would get with vaporgenie or bong/herb-sandwhich method.

Can't say it was bad because it was good people and good place, and there was this 'extra shine' to things for a couple of minutes, but not worth it, I never really felt like trying it again. Keep the joint for the joint and the dmt by itself, at least thats my personal feeling about it
 
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#3 Posted : 10/12/2010 7:13:33 PM

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A tiny line in a joint would be a total waste;a large line would be an even larger waste.If you wish to imbibe via a joint then changas waht you need-check the Wiki.

Even with changa joints you will be using your DMT inefficiently and it will smell your whole house out.

I suggest changa in a bong or bite the bullet and vaporise the crystal!
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#4 Posted : 10/12/2010 7:15:52 PM
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I'll probably leave it as my friend has never done psychedelics before, he's interested but maybe DMT isn't the best introduction. I heard that you can get the light tryptamine effects from making a J, it sounded like my friend may get an impression of a trypatmine tryp without going too far.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/12/2010 7:34:05 PM

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I know people that do that and like it.
Personally. just eat a couple caps of mushies or something to get the pine cone buzzing. There is no real need to dry hump dmt land. I understand that it isn't a full commitment of 6 hours or so, but on low doses, ya know.. mushrooms are a pretty beautiful thing to have in a day.

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#6 Posted : 10/12/2010 7:54:21 PM
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GalactivatedMuse wrote:
I know people that do that and like it.
Personally. just eat a couple caps of mushies or something to get the pine cone buzzing.


LOL

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but on low doses, ya know.. mushrooms are a pretty beautiful thing to have in a day.


Yeah i used to do that a lot, still functoinal, going to work, just glowing from inside Smile
 
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#7 Posted : 10/12/2010 9:08:46 PM

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ill probly leave it as the dude has never done psychs before, i just heard that you can get the tryptamine giggles from making a j out of it
i know this disrestpectful to the immense spirit of DMT but still it sounded like we might have a laugh you know...


No part of the experience is a laugh, if you want a laugh take a gram of mushroomSmile
 
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#8 Posted : 10/12/2010 9:36:10 PM

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I took a cannabis joint with DMT once, and it was a great experience. It was much smoother and longer than if I had taken it from a glass pipe. And it really was a beautiful experience.
 
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#9 Posted : 10/12/2010 10:40:37 PM
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cli_hlt wrote:
I took a cannabis joint with DMT once, and it was a great experience. It was much smoother and longer than if I had taken it from a glass pipe. And it really was a beautiful experience.


I found that when i took in DMT slowly i was able to meditate & go very deep into the experience, but when i hit it fast, well it just went too fast, i prefer meditating into the let go, not being forced to let go Twisted Evil
 
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#10 Posted : 10/14/2010 12:18:52 AM

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A FOAF once rolled a joint of changa (1:1 ratio). He was out back in the fields of campus, nice wide open area, quiet with not many people around. He decided it would be a good idea to smoke it while walking back to class. He took two puffs, and immediately started exclaiming enthusiastically "I...can't walk anymore...i have to lie down...this is tooo intense" ! haha , and proceeded to lie down in the grass and enjoy his trip!

Basically, you'll be wasting a lot of the changa (since it will still be lit, you'll have to put it out after 2-3 hits). It would work if you have a weak ratio changa. Like 0.3 DMT:1 herb. Will give you a nice glow to your high, especially if its MJ!
 
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#11 Posted : 10/14/2010 1:05:57 AM
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vampir wrote:
It would work if you have a weak ratio changa. Like 0.3 DMT:1 herb. Will give you a nice glow to your high, especially if its MJ!


Nice one dude, that sounds like what im going for, first thing i'm doing after extraction is to try how strong a little amount is, then make some changa accordingly, i think i'm going to use passion flower as on mushrooms in the past i've enjoyed it's mild maoi effects just by smoking a pure joint of it, i remember having some transient paisley type fractals.

Im thinking making a few blends, start with a 12mg/1g & a 30mg/1g

Would such a small ratio still evenly spread throughout the acetone & herbs?

 
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#12 Posted : 10/14/2010 9:12:09 AM

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When making Changa blends I would advise all to make them 1:1, always. If you want to make the smoke a bit weaker, then just add in some unenhanced leaf in there.
When I was playing around with the idea of changa joints, id add in about 1/3 plain leaf with the changa and them roll it up.

Id also advise that one doesnt smoke it indoors if you are living with other people, this stuff seriously stinks.
 
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#13 Posted : 10/14/2010 12:23:29 PM
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Can you explain 1:1 to me please?

Its obviously not 1g DMT : 1G Herb

100mg DMT : 1g Herb?

 
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#14 Posted : 10/14/2010 12:32:47 PM

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Its obviously not 1g DMT : 1G Herb


Yes it is. A popular blend is 1 unit caapi 10X : 1 unit dmt
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#15 Posted : 10/14/2010 12:35:28 PM
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justine wrote:
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Its obviously not 1g DMT : 1G Herb


Yes it is. A popular blend is 1 unit caapi 10X : 1 unit dmt


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#16 Posted : 10/14/2010 2:03:23 PM

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Then smoke a little less =p titrate your experience that way.
 
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#17 Posted : 10/14/2010 2:18:25 PM

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Chronic wrote:
justine wrote:
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Its obviously not 1g DMT : 1G Herb


Yes it is. A popular blend is 1 unit caapi 10X : 1 unit dmt


Shocked Shocked Shocked

Too strong for me Embarrased





We aren't telling you to smoke 1G of dmt in a single session, just to mix 1 unit of dmt with 1 unit of herbs and then smoke whatever quantity of the blend you feel like.
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#18 Posted : 10/14/2010 4:29:29 PM

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Ye, 1gram DMT:1gram herb

As I said, its easier like this, if you make the blend too weak you will have to smoke sooooo much to get the desired effects. Its alotr easier to just add some inactive herb in there/smoke lessSmile
 
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#19 Posted : 10/14/2010 5:15:07 PM

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Chronic wrote:

Too strong for me Embarrased


No mate, you make 1G DMT : 1G herb, and then you weigh out the changa according to how much you want to do.
Smoking 100mg of your changa = 50mg of DMT smoked. A joint of 1:1 is too strong to smoke, since you'll be out in 1-2 puffs.

Which is why it would be more effective for a joint to have like 1:10 .. 1:4 ratios, etc.
If you want to smoke a full joint of MJ, then that's approx. 1gr of herb. So if you make a 1:10 ratio, you'll be able to smoke the whole joint and have nice effects and still remain somewhat functional, because you'll only be smoking ~100mg of DMT throughout that whole period.
 
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#20 Posted : 10/14/2010 6:53:04 PM
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Thanks for explaining, i'm really looking forward to making it, in some ways more than smoking it, its interesting the process of extraction then making enhanced herb.

I'm still not 100% sure about the ratios really... maths isn't my strong point Wut?





 
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