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Kazoo...
#1 Posted : 10/11/2010 7:30:37 PM

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So i did a a/b on some dried S.p. cactus, using a mix of Limonene and Xylene as my solvent. after many many pulls and acetate saltings, the starting material was pretty much exhausted and my solvent had taken on a darkish yellow/orange color obviously highly saturated with oils and maybe other "stuff", so i was curious and evaporated that down till all the solvent was gone, and what i was left with was about 2 grams of an orange colored oily solid(like a soft crayon) that smells like oranges and tasted like "oil". I'm thinking that this leftover oily solid gunk might still be full of "other" goodies and it seems like a shame to just discard it...

Has anyone evaporated their leftover solvent and had this resulting oily solid?(I'm assuming "it" must still be in a freebase state with some minor acetates mixed in)

Can any more goodies("other alkaloids" )be gleaned from it? what do do with it?

Ideas/thoughts?



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#2 Posted : 10/11/2010 7:45:22 PM

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Mescaline freebase is a caustic oil, not sure about the other alkaloids.

I wouldn't throw anything away though. Sorry I can't give more help, I don't do many cactus extractions.
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#3 Posted : 10/11/2010 7:50:28 PM

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There are some pretty reliable stories around here and on the wiki of limo not evapping cleanly. I'd guess your "stuff" is mostly limo and plant fats. The chem experts will tell you that salting to ph6 will get over 95% of the m out anyways, so it always seems like a better idea to strong acid wash, base wash, and then re-use. There arent a lot of tests around here that focus on the non mesc alks so if you find something interesting, please let us know!

ps limo is "non toxic" but that certainly doesnt mean its healthy to ingest large quantities/concentrations of it. I would personally be wary of eating concentrated limo evap. does it sting your lips the way limo does?
 
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#4 Posted : 10/12/2010 2:12:46 AM
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Kazoo... wrote:


Has anyone evaporated their leftover solvent and had this resulting oily solid?(I'm assuming "it" must still be in a freebase state with some minor acetates mixed in)

Can any more goodies("other alkaloids" )be gleaned from it? what do do with it?

Ideas/thoughts?



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no, if enough acid was used evapping the np will Not yeilf FB.
worst case even if it did, it will react to form mescaline carbonate, which isn't a caustic oilSmile

little exp w/limo, imo proper lab practice is better than assuming your extract is "food safe" just because the solovents or bases being used are less toxic than others.
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#5 Posted : 12/3/2010 11:52:20 PM

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a little update....

the orange smelling oily waxy ball of goodies was re dissolved in 15ml of fresh limo, 10ml of fresh vinegar(acetate) was added to limo' and agitated, the vinegar then turned a white/light tan color and precipitate was instantly formed, eventually settling onto the bottom of the test tube, the saturated vinegar layer was then drawn off and evaporated leaving a nice ball of waxy orange colored solid, the oily characteristic seems to have been left in the limo, the solid dried nicely and is still a waxy constancy but quite easy to work with.

100mg was ingested, definite effects but light, lots of color enhancement, reflected light seems much brighter and more vivid, pleasant body feelings, a sort of warmness in the heart area like a little sun burning softly in my body radiating out in a comfortable bubble of ecstatic energy, not very intense but had a few moments of definite peaks, gradually fading at the 2 hour mark, seems short lived... but pleasant, further tests at higher doses will be done for sure...
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#6 Posted : 12/5/2010 9:13:21 PM
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Mesc. acetate is hygroscopic to the degree that, depending on relative humidity, even relatively pure crystals left out will turn to goo.

The HCL salt does not have this issue.
 
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#7 Posted : 12/9/2010 5:59:25 PM

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After removing it completely by forming HCl salts and with chloroform as non polar solvent other alkaloids are certainly left behind and they are certainly not it.
 
 
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