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#61 Posted : 9/29/2010 4:42:26 AM

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Another cool theoretical physicist is Dr. Thomas Campbell. He has written such books as "My Big TOE (Theory of Everything)" and its quite interesting. He talks about how our system of existence couldn't be if there wasn't a system governing it in a higher dimension. He is also an avid consciousness traveler, going out of body to other Physical and Nonphysical Matter Realities. Its def some crazy shit that fits in this topic.

DMT world is actually considered a place that one can travel to in his eyes. He calls it Locale 2. its pretty interesting stuff and presents a fitting description of playing out the possibilities. Cause nobody actually knows for sure, but playing out the possibilities and seeing how far the mind can reach in a certain direction is alot of fun. Especially for us philosophers!

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#62 Posted : 10/5/2010 4:09:02 AM

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"Also, someone was telling me about Deja Vu and how it actually relates to everyday waking consciousness. Obviously nobody can pinpoint the feeling exactly but what I think to be a very high possibility is a DMT flashback or flashforward. One theory is that Deja Vu is a form of psychological conformation or a sign that your life is on the right track, but for most of us, or at least for me, a Deja Vu experience feels like you're remembering something that you once knew. Most of the time, at least in my experience, I've been able to recall when I saw the initial event and every single time its been from a dream. Dreams and Deja Vu are connected in ways that I don't think I'm ready to fathom yet haha. I think also that dreams hold latent information from the future in some form of quantum consciousness."


From what i understand deju vu happens cause reality is happen and your brain has to process it and sometimes there is a snag and lapse in that process so it feels like it al ready happened cause in a sense it did like micons of seconds before you felt it
 
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#63 Posted : 10/5/2010 5:09:36 AM

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exactly, the brain also works forward in time. There was a very famous experiment done, this scientist chopped off the top of peoples heads to have their brains exposed. Then he touched their pinky and recorded how fast the reaction time was. then he touched the area in the brain where the pinky response would be and found that the brain actually percieves events forwards in time and projects feelings such as pain or love backward through time which is why our reflexes appear to be so fast. They then concluded that the brain works like this all the time with everything. Perceiving events in the future and sending back parts of the whole story into the past to create our normal experience.

My theory for that is tripping on whatever it is u trip on, cuts that off. You don't send any information back in time when ur tripping because there is no time, and the brain is working at full capacity to show u what it sees everyday. There is no past /future on lsd or dmt or anything, it just is. you know what i mean?

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#64 Posted : 10/5/2010 11:54:51 PM

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i seen the same experiment it mind blowing if you think about it.
 
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#65 Posted : 10/6/2010 8:13:09 AM
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HelloSmile Sorry if this is long, there's some good discussion going on. This post is really 3-in-1, Just read the quote to whatever part you're following along to!
clouds wrote:
In other words... if we "only know that we don't know", then we don't know.

gibran2 wrote:
The only thing we can know is “real” is that something has subjective conscious experiences (we generally call that something “self”). However, this doesn’t prevent us from examining those experiences and discerning patterns and structure within them.

I think I can see both points. In my opinion, even science is a subjective experience.

The smartest monkey in the world may have some basic concept of "math", but it's calculations will likely be far off compared to a human. The same can be said for us; in order to prove something with science, we must be certain our calculations and tools of observation are perfect. I highly doubt our methods are that good, so there must be some margin of error not accounted for.

However since we can not be completely sure of anything, I do not see how one can be certain of what we're not certain of either?
Never say never seems a bit hypocritical, but in our case we do not know what's impossible and what isn't.
While somethings may be impossible, we aren't sure what those things are.

Maybe nothings impossible, but I think even nothing can be possible given the right circumstanceRazz

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You don't send any information back in time when ur tripping because there is no time

I believe this to be true. I see time as a human's tool to measure the distance between two events, no more universal than distance itself.
How do you feel about physically manipulating the space between two objects? (not matter, I mean the actual space containing the matter.)I think time travel is a similar concept, to go backwards in time seems to defy what should be physically possible.

Now that means next to nothing, we are still a pretty basic species and haven't even traveled our own solar system yet, let alone universe!

There is still much we don't know, in all honesty I think DMT is probably only significant to life on earth and not some universal gateway to understanding. I believe it is simply a symbiotic relationship between species(plants+humans) giving each their own advantages to further ensure survival, growth and evolution.

DMT only has a spirit if one decides it to be so.

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So then, my question then becomes, if DMT is released naturally in the brain while you dream, is it possible to access hyperspace in a lucid dream state?

About accessing Hyperspace in dreams, I've done it. However I feel strongly that it was recalled from subconscious memory and not due to any substantial amount of endogenous DMT. Perhaps small amounts triggered a flashback like you say, but I still feel the subconscious made up the most of it. I don't think we "access" hyperspace as much as we become aware of it in present reality. Lucid dreaming is the ultimate form of meditation. The mind is free and is perfectly aware it's free, while still maintaining sobriety.
I think one could spawn a hyperspace memory flash in a lucid state, but it does not necessarily mean it is caused from endogenous DMT.

Ever wonder what our universe would look like with the ability to see atoms and the entire spectrum of electromagnetic radiation?
Much is being hidden right before our eyes!
And I mean that literally! Shocked
Imagine what one's closed eyelids would look like as a flowing sea of atomic energy and externally reflected radiation, instead of boring flaps of flesh!

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#66 Posted : 10/6/2010 8:14:58 AM

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Thank you for sharing this with us, always looking for new interesting perspectives unifying strange altered states phenomenon with the workings of the universe. Will def check this out further, thanks again.
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#67 Posted : 10/11/2010 3:02:47 AM

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Wow lots of reading and lots of thoughts. Oops forgot what mine was. Interesting concepts, but like a few have said you cant really pinpoint it to a science. Although Im always tripping in the 11th dimension, wink, wink. And trying to explain human consiousness with one chemical seems flawed. Dmt is but one chemical to achieve this, and solid research is lacking on the naturally occuring DMT. Although I personally believe this could be so, the real effects of this can be questionable. Was it DMT that has given me insights and visions when I am perfectly sober and meditating??? Not like a DMT trip really so what other factors are present. Does your body react differently to naturally produced DMT compared to exotic sources?? Oh and Time does exist, it is constant and never ending and cannot be reversed, but its there for the wasting. Science is but an attempt to make real of the unreal.
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#68 Posted : 10/11/2010 4:00:13 AM
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unclesyd wrote:
Oh and Time does exist, it is constant

Is it? How do we know time doesn't fluctuate dependent on space region, gravitational field, or other environmental factor? Are we even sure time doesn't fluctuate here on earth?

How do we know a moment is always a moment?
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#69 Posted : 10/11/2010 12:34:35 PM

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Thanks for picking that out. I guess what I mean by constant is that it is always there. Im sure time could speed up and down depending on what portion or dimension of the universe you are in, but it is always there and always moving forward. I believe if time would stop then you would stop the earth would stop, the whole universe would stop. The expansion and growth of the universe is along this time line, always moving forward but I suppose not necassarily at the same speed.

How do we know a moment is always a moment?
Can you clarify this for me I am having a hard time thinking what you mean by this? The way I see it you have to stop and think what am I doing now at this moment, you can always do that. People say you have to live in the moment.... I say Be Here Now, which something like that but living in a moment sounds like you are attaching yourself to something which we should never do. I am sure this is not what you meant and so that is why I could use a better explaination, thanks.
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#70 Posted : 10/11/2010 1:35:00 PM
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^^^^^^^
What I meant was:
A minute is always a minute to us, but how do we know a minute always passes at the same speed? Time dilation under the influence of psychedelics is usually very real, I am curious if this is a real phenomenon or simply an altered perception of "time".

However, I misread your original post unclesyd.
I thought you meant by "time is constant" that it always passes at the same rate. This was not the case.
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#71 Posted : 10/11/2010 4:35:57 PM
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We know for a fact that even when not under the influence of some psychedelic time does fluctuate. For instance when in an exam hall time seems to take forever to pass. What we also know for a fact is that time is goes by at a different rate to each person, but is meshed together in perfect synchronicity. This is where something like DMT comes in to explain the nature of time itself. When under the influence if DMT, you can experience how this mesh is constructed, and often you can "see" time. It is just rarely recognized as such.
 
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#72 Posted : 10/11/2010 9:25:01 PM

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-However, I misread your original post unclesyd.
I thought you meant by "time is constant" that it always passes at the same rate. This was not the case.-

No it wasnt, but I definetly didnt clarify it as such, so thank you on calling me on that. Going by the theory that at the speed of light time would stand still, maybe DMT and other such substances speed up our brains so much that times seems to slow down. I know a million examples could be thought of how the speed of time fluctuates, but can anyone come up with an example of it stopping completly or being reversed?? And I have traveled the tunnels of time, or so they said, but I guess this conflicts with my hypothesis I suppose. Although I never actually travelled to the past or future, just giant columns of fractally tubes. This has never happened again, and it was such a long time ago I cant remember what I made of it. Maybe this is evidence that although time cannot be stopped or reversed, it could be travelled throughout. Because even if you travelled to the past or future there still would be a present continuing on. Or maybe they were not the tunnels of time, just my tripped out mind creating illusions....

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1973tour wrote:

When the particle is observed by any conscious being, the wave function collapses to a single point, no longer a quantum function, but rather a static particle. This is why when we experience DMT we see all the particles moving and shifting, visibly seeing the wave function of the quantum world. Also explains when we're sober we can only see our reality as solid and static, unmoving even though we know that this world isn't solid and its made purely of possibilities.


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