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Vularin's Fast EU Mescaline Extraction Tek Options
 
Vularin
#1 Posted : 10/2/2010 5:16:56 PM

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Ok here is my first extraction tek! Most stuff is gathered from other snippets i gathered on the web and general shared knowledge.
It is however the proper first write down. Very happy

Ok the idea behind this tek is that for people that live in the Netherlands like SWIM or EU have to go through alot of hassle to get all the supplies for it.
for example 69ron's tek is nice but expensive and produces a tar like resin that needs proper cleaning with MEK or a rextal (acetate version that is).

Also D-limo is expensive and lime is rather hard to get cause there arent alot of mexican's in the EU Smile You can get it from JJS ofcourse but thats probally not the safest place since the only shop online that sells reagents and base ingredients. So someone must have flagged that place.

So alternativly getting some Xyleen or Toluene is possible via reagent sellers online, but also this is expensive and tricky.

Well enough talk here is how to make mescaline in 2 hours with just kitchen materials!


Stuff you need to buy:
- 100 grams of "San Pedro powder" (get it from via the net straight from the source, just google it)
- 1 glass jar (600-1000 ml is fine, i use one of those pickling jars
- 1 liter of house hold ammonia (not soapy and contains <5% ammonia) I get mine from "Kruidvat" but any will do.
- 1 liter of Thinner (this one is imporant. It contains Xyleen-Aceton-1-Butanol) brand is Merchant get is from your hardware shop. Make sure its this brand!!!

This is what you do:
- Put 100 gram of powder in the glass jar
- Pour in 150-200ml of ammonia in jar, mix thourouly till it becomes like moist clay. This is important cause to wet will get ammonia mixed up, to dry will suck up your solvent.
- Pour in 200-300ml (depending on you separtion equipment and skill) of Thinner and mix the shit out of it, do that on and off for half an hour or an hour. It turns really dark green!!

- Take off you shirt and use it to strain the Thinner from the cactus, the ammonia will stay in the cactus
- Put the Thinner is a jar
- Add 50 ml of normal kitchen vinegar

- Shake like a motherfucker on an of for half an hour and keep in warm water bath between shakes helps shit crash out also good against emulsion but thats almost next to none
- Separte the vinegar from the Thinner, i decant and use a tincture dropper for the last bits, separator funnel if you got one. DONT USE ZIPLOCKS!!

- Put Vinegar in pyrex dish, stick in the oven at 75 C.
- White crystals will form!

So this one pull will yield you 700mg of off white/yellow dry mescaline in about two hours and cost just 8 euros to do!

-Added-
Dont forget to do a MEK washing, will update soon with a more low tech cleaning method

It also tried this tek using d-limo but you get the same brown stuff like with 69ron's tek. I figure its the Acetone thats present in the Xyleen-Aceton-1-Butanol that keeps the rubbish in the solvent and not in the vinegar.

Ill upload some photos later!! Im too excited now Pleased

V

 

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Virola78
#2 Posted : 10/3/2010 10:46:49 AM

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Hey Vularin,

Havent seen your posts in some time...
anyways, good to see you are still experimenting Smile

About this tek your present.. the solvent you use, it contains acetone and butanol? Arent those soluable in water/vinegar? Wont they migrate to the vinegar layer?

Sure the acetone and butanol can be evaporated, but IF they migrate to the vinegar layer (since they are water soluable), THEN i reckon they would also pull some non-mesc alkaloids into the vinegar. Those non-mesc alkaloids would remain in the evap dish, with the mesc.

Also, i see you dont wash/recrystalize the raw mesc-product that remains after evaporation. But you sure there wont be any nasty contams (solvents/heavy metals etc) present in the vinegar?

Btw lab grade 99% MEK can be bought from labstuff.nl.
I bet they even sell small bottles of MEK (100ml) if you ask and order some other stuff (like 99% acetone, 99% IPA, 37% HCl.... ; )

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Vularin
#3 Posted : 10/3/2010 1:04:13 PM

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Virola78 wrote:

Also, i see you dont wash/recrystalize the raw mesc-product that remains after evaporation. But you sure there wont be any nasty contams (solvents/heavy metals etc) present in the vinegar?



Heya Virola78, yeah im still here! Very happy

Im deffo looking into washing or re-x's. Since impuraties will migrate in this tek.
Right now I do a MEK wash. But that kinda beats the purpose of this tek.

So im looking into washing/re-x ways that are low tech, so not using labgrade IPA, Acetone or MEK. So if you have any tips im happy to hear them! Smile

V
 
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#4 Posted : 10/3/2010 9:06:28 PM

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wow, good job, its nice to see someone trying unorthodox bases. It would be interesting to pull until nothing came out of the ammonia solution, then add lye to see if basifying further will release any more. I've seen statements like "ammonia can only get to ph10" but looking online I see it can go higher.. and I wonder what % of the goods come out at ph10 anyways. It's time for me to relearn some chem.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/3/2010 9:17:13 PM

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Looks like a preety solid tek for all the europeans @ nexus.

When the wash is realsed i'll have to give this a go?

Has anyone else done this tek yet ?
 
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#6 Posted : 10/5/2010 8:51:57 AM

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how long does it take the ammonia to break down the cacti goop?
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panoramix
#7 Posted : 6/5/2011 2:18:36 AM

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dude Vularin this is great,


first thing SWIM wil do on monday is buy some thinner Very happy
what shop did you go G-amma p-raxis f-ormido Razz

Very happy

greets pano


EDIT

if swim would use hcl 10% (G-AMMA) instead of vinigar
he could just wash with and acetone (S-IKKENS) no need for MEK.
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#8 Posted : 6/5/2011 1:25:26 PM

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hey thanks for posting your tek!
I just received my 500g of torch chips and i'm about to have some sweet extraction fun Smile
I could imagine that your tek works, but i really want to make sure that this i time i get some white mesc, and not some sticky goo like the last time i used 69ron'S tek.
That's why i'll be using a hcl tek à la ekstaza or phlux.
I myself live in Germany and i recommend this site: http://www.kremer-pigmente.de/shopint/
They have xylene, acetone, d-limonene, muriatic acid, gypsum (for growing shrooms),sodium hydroxide (bit expensive though) etc...
check it out, they ship from germany so i guess you won't pay much more for shipping to Holland.

 
 
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