How much changa do you guys usually put into a changa joint for 1 person? 2 people?

I havent smoked a changa joint in months, when I did id put about double or just less than double the amount that I needed with a bong.
They can be a bit wastefull if one is running low on spice, still a nice experience.

I've never gotten good results off a changa joint.

The only time I really use them is with bufotenine as I find the vapor too harsh too inhale, in which case I require 120mg which is about 5x as much as is needed when inhaling straight vapor.

Also I can smell way too much burnt spice when smoking changa in a joint. Even if I infuse the whole joint mix so the DMT is evenly spaced out, rather than just having a few clumps here and there.

I was thinking the changa joint would be good on-the-go. maybe ill try it just once with 120mg and see if it works for me. That sucks if it burns the spice though, the smell of burning spice sticks to my skin and clothes for hours. Maybe it won't smell so bad though because the spice in it is pure white crystals, which IME don't smell near as bad.

Changa joints always smell big time.

He's not kidding.

yeah maybe ill pass on the changa joint for now... that lingering smell really bothers me while Im in hyperspace. It's just hard to beat the portability of a joint.

a small pipe and a vial of changa and your good to go.

Purity is pretty irrelevant when the method of ingestion is burning the stuff.

out of interest, could someone reach hyperspace via a changa joint?
whats the difference between that and a hit with a bong or vaporiser?
..presumably a joint would be a slower to hit, longer lasting effects. vice versa. but i mean in terms of the experience, the high, for lack of a better word; any decernable change?

There is really no way you could reach a deep place with a changa joint. A joint will result in a lower level experience for an extended period of time. A properly packed bowl and a bong + holding it for 20+ seconds will take you the entire way. Thats not to say it's a waste of time, even low dose spice has its place especially in group situations. Its all a matter of quantity of spice delivered to your body over time, changa joints are diluted with other herbs and smoked slowly, with a packed cone the contents are delivered all at once and held in the lungs for maximum effect.

Googled revived this thread because I am curious to try this at Burning Man this year. I will roll a few of different strengths, I could really see the potential of a low dose changa spliff to really put you in a vibing place without taking you too far.

Hopefully during Shpongle at sunrise...if he still makes it that is

Peace,Love,Light

I beg to differ, A changa joint with alot of harmalas (about 50% of dmt weight) will def take you as far as you wan´t.

I usually smoke a 400mg (50% dmt) joint in about 30-40 mins and every puff takes me further out in space, i usually try to inhale the last 1/4 of the joint in one or two big lungs and i always fly wery far for a really long time this way.

It´+ even better if you drink some rue or caapi tea about 30mins before smoking the joint.

The secret is to make the joint with some non active herb and then sprinkle the changa in the middle and tip of the joint so the last 1/4 contains no changa but once you get there alot of the dmt will have gotten there anyway.



Personally i don´t think it´s a big waste if you do it right.

I had a Changa joint the other day. It was very nice, but didn't get me any where near where a bong load would get me. It still produced a deep trippy mindset and was very insightful, but tbh it was nothing like taking the full whack in one go. This was with a 1;2 blend, 1 part spice, 2 caapi / chacruna mix... Working on some harmalas at the moment to possibly deepen the experience as it was a lovely slow moving high...

I find changa joints are great for festivals when you just want a tiny taste whilst rockin' out. It's definitely a nice social smoke. I did get my ass kicked a bit on my b-day a few weeks ago from a changa joint. Didn't expect it at all and suddenly had hyperspace creep up on me. Twuz a nice birthday treat

Really old topic I know, but I got a question. I would like to smoke Changa in a joint and already have the changa. Which blend should I use to fill it up? I do not mean the changa but the rest of the joint. Can Banisteriopsis caapi or Peganum Harmala be added to it and smoked? Which is easier to smoke? (If you got experiences with it)

If I would have harmalas I would add them, but I didn't want to go through the extraction process.

Any recommendation is welcomed