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Sorry if this is long, there's some good discussion going on. This post is really 3-in-1, Just read the quote to whatever part you're following along to!
clouds wrote:In other words... if we "only know that we don't know", then we don't know.
gibran2 wrote:The only thing we can know is “real” is that something has subjective conscious experiences (we generally call that something “self”). However, this doesn’t prevent us from examining those experiences and discerning patterns and structure within them.
I think I can see both points. In my opinion, even science is a subjective experience.
The smartest monkey in the world may have some basic concept of "math", but it's calculations will likely be far off compared to a human. The same can be said for us; in order to prove something with science, we must be
certain our calculations and tools of observation are
perfect. I highly doubt our methods are that good, so there must be some margin of error not accounted for.
However since we can not be completely sure of anything, I do not see how one can be certain of what we're not certain of either?
Never say never seems a bit hypocritical, but in our case we do not know what's impossible and what isn't.
While somethings may be impossible, we aren't sure what those things are.
Maybe nothings impossible, but I think even nothing can be possible given the right circumstance
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1973tour wrote:You don't send any information back in time when ur tripping because there is no time
I believe this to be true. I see time as a human's tool to measure the distance between two events, no more universal than distance itself.
How do you feel about physically manipulating the space between two objects? (not matter, I mean the actual space containing the matter.)I think time travel is a similar concept, to go backwards in time seems to defy what should be physically possible.
Now that means next to nothing, we are still a pretty basic species and haven't even traveled our own solar system yet, let alone universe!
There is still much we don't know, in all honesty I think DMT is probably only significant to life on earth and not some universal gateway to understanding. I believe it is simply a symbiotic relationship between species(plants+humans) giving each their own advantages to further ensure survival, growth and evolution.
DMT only has a spirit if one decides it to be so.
1973tour wrote:So then, my question then becomes, if DMT is released naturally in the brain while you dream, is it possible to access hyperspace in a lucid dream state?
About accessing Hyperspace in dreams, I've done it. However I feel strongly that it was recalled from subconscious memory and not due to any substantial amount of endogenous DMT. Perhaps small amounts triggered a flashback like you say, but I still feel the subconscious made up the most of it. I don't think we "access" hyperspace as much as we become aware of it in present reality. Lucid dreaming is the ultimate form of meditation. The mind is free and is perfectly aware it's free, while still maintaining sobriety.
I think one could spawn a hyperspace memory flash in a lucid state, but it does not necessarily mean it is caused from endogenous DMT.
Ever wonder what our universe would look like with the ability to see atoms and the entire spectrum of electromagnetic radiation?
Much is being hidden right before our eyes!
And I mean that literally!
Imagine what one's closed eyelids would look like as a flowing sea of atomic energy and externally reflected radiation, instead of boring flaps of flesh!
Disclaimer: All Entheogens and other research materials are not for Human consumption! I have researched by text the effects of consuming such things in case of accidental consumption. I have never actually consumed any of the materials I speak about and it should be assumed I'm speaking hypothetically. I have a wild imagination.