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blossom
#1 Posted : 9/19/2010 1:28:23 PM
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Hi.

Swim would like to ask a few questions, here goes >

1: Swim reads here that for prep of virola resin, one should add water.. but swim knows that lime does NOT dissolve in water... is this why it is advised to use lime PASTE, that is already moist???
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2: Swim has limited experience with phenethylamines & notes that the use of MILK seems to greatly potentiate & lengthen duration EVEN if no MAOI or other potentiator is used, or has deffinitely worn off days/weeks ago.

Is this plausable?? or is this just placebo??
Do the medicines build up in ones system?? or we get more accepting of them?? or could the MILK really help a lot??

I ask this because here in a thread i read its a good idea to make the mouth alkaline.. & as far as swim knows MILK is alkaline...


Swim really wants to UPGRADE/switch from phenethylamine to virola RESIN.


Swim has both types of virola resin.. & also is now aware of the differance from reading here...

Swim does not really like VISUALS too much.
& swim does not feel comfy with long duration just yet.

So question # 3: is regarding THH.. which is supposed to bring a NICER experience but not too strong.

unfortunately swim only has caapi copy.. & swim is sad he did not go for the THH.


Ok... last question... Swim is a little scared but really wants to experiment with the Resin... Swim has experience with STRONG ayahuasca... & strangely enough, a detailed GUIDE to 5-meo-DMT.. that swim read.. strangely did not sound THAT different to what he has experienced in the past with ayahuasca potions & variations.


Swim would like some advise for First Resin experience...

His natural tendancy feels that sublingual is the way to go.

Is the resin a CLEAN experience??? or would swim be better to refine the resin???

swim only asks in relation to clean-ness of the experience, NOT really bothered too much regarding ease of prep or administration route/difficulty.

thankyou.

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One more thing. Is tobacco smoking a bad idea with the resin? because with phenethylamines it seems to make the experience come on too strong & swim feels the blood pressure discomforting... But with complete removal of blood pressure through pre-loading with Deprenyl... The euphoria effect is stronger & body load absent, but the experience does not seem as enlightening.

So really is it best to first try the resin by itself.?

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#2 Posted : 9/19/2010 6:03:02 PM

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blossom wrote:


2: Swim has limited experience with phenethylamines & notes that the use of MILK seems to greatly potentiate & lengthen duration EVEN if no MAOI or other potentiator is used, or has deffinitely worn off days/weeks ago.

Thanks Smile


Virola resun contains only tryptamines and not phenethylamines i think
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blossom
#3 Posted : 9/19/2010 9:11:37 PM
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Correct.

But is still a entheogenic compound. Just a lot weaker.

Just forget that part if you dont really see i was just asking if milk will potentiate absorbtion & duration of the virola resin.

Anything constructive to say regardless of if you understood my anology?
 
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#4 Posted : 9/20/2010 1:19:51 PM

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blossom wrote:
Hi.

Swim would like to ask a few questions, here goes >

1: Swim reads here that for prep of virola resin, one should add water.. but swim knows that lime does NOT dissolve in water... is this why it is advised to use lime PASTE, that is already moist???
Cool


lime DOES dissolve in water. it is not highly soluble, but enough for you to feel it and any reactions take place



blossom wrote:
I ask this because here in a thread i read its a good idea to make the mouth alkaline.. & as far as swim knows MILK is alkaline...


Nope. Actually milk is acidic (not much, though), because of lactic acid.


blossom wrote:

So question # 3: is regarding THH.. which is supposed to bring a NICER experience but not too strong.

unfortunately swim only has caapi copy.. & swim is sad he did not go for the THH.


unfortunately there are no trustworthy reports of using THH. It is believed that most THH sold was in fact just plain harmine



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#5 Posted : 9/20/2010 5:24:39 PM
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Ahh ok, thanks for that information...



I will go study some more & return with some better experiences. Shocked
 
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#6 Posted : 9/20/2010 10:48:28 PM
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Ok so....

with the Theiodora resin (5-meo prominent) how much resin do you need for like equivalent to 10mg 5-meo???

is that about 500mg of resin?? or more/less???

Just trying to establish if its possible to snuff the resin for a equivalent 5mg of actives dosage.... or is that too much materiel to snuff??

just cant be bothered extracting ect..

Thinking of adding 5mg caapi copy to that.
 
 
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