okay, so i finally got around to trying this most epic combo.
in my previous post, i spoke of rue calming and taming the LSD.
the dose of rue was incredibly small, however, and i now feel that more intense potentiation would occur if the harmala dose was larger.
i have taken 100 mgs. pure harmaline and my rue dose was well under that...there must have only been 50 mgs. harmala mixture in there;
little enough to influence the LSD but not enough to potentiate.

there is also a lot of talk i've heard about MAOI's NOT potentiating LSD.
maybe not synthetic MAOI's....i wholeheartedly disagree with anyone who applies this logic to plant-based harmala alkaloids though.
harmalas, when taken at sufficient doses, are quite psychedelic on their own and combine with LSD to greatly potentiate it.

and by "greatly" i mean "vastly!"

to get this out of the way: i'm sure what i had was LSD and i'm also sure of the dosage.
the source is a chemist, not a "dealer," who weighs crystalline LSD (several dozen milligams!!) and then dilutes in water.
the amount of LSD in every drop is approx. 100-115 mcg.

a few weeks ago, when i took mescaline + caapi, i used 20 grams caapi (brewed without adding acidity).
it was quite mellow, so this time i upped the caapi dose to 25 (this time adding lemon juice for acidity).

this, i realized later, was a not-well-thought-out decision.

being confident about the caapi dose not being too intense, i ate half of the LSD (55 mcg.) 10 minutes after drinking the caapi tea.
well the caapi was SUPER intense this time and i should have waited to stabilize first, before i took the LSD.
i didn't think at the time that the lemon juice would extract a great deal more alkaloids.
25 grams caapi with acidity added is FAR more intense than 20 grams caapi no acidity.
lesson learned the hard way.

oh yeah, and i took 3 datura stram. seeds, too....
talk about a recipe for visions!!

so 10 minutes after i took the LSD, i'm feeling like the sky is gonna split open before my eyes! i'm already way too high for where i'm at in the trip.
sure enough, when the caapi comes full bore, i'm starting to get open eye visuals streaming across the ceiling.
I look at the clock and i still have 30 minutes to go before the Acid comes full-bore...not a comforting thought.

oh okay, here come the acid visuals....

i'm starting to distinctly feel the acid and the caapi as two separate streams of consciousness merging and separating within my mind.
i can feel the kundalini buzz of the acid growing to an alarming degree, but i can also feel the calmness of caapi, ever indifferent, ever objective, to what's going on.
if i focus on a particular object, the acid visuals dominate: funhouse-mirror, bizarre dimension warping impossibilities.
i was looking at a picture that was lying on top of a black blanket.
without blinking, some strange flash of light rendered the picture completely invisible for a moment: i could see only the blanket underneath.
in a few seconds, still without having blinked, the picture materializes before my eyes again.
i'm not even peaking yet!!

when my clock says 1 hour 15 minutes after taking the acid i throw the clock across the room with glee and say, "whoohoo, we've hit the ceiling!"
i'm grateful for the high to be leveling out at this point.
though acid has a way, if it's intense enough, of making you always feel like you're on the edge, just beyond the brink of comfort.

the peak can only be described as an exact blend, in every way, of ayahuasca and acid.
from caapi, i can feel a complete access to bizarre and frightening spirit-worlds complete with strange entities and presences.
at the same time, the acid gives me a mental magnifying glass to focus in on every little thought process with startling clarity and precision.
when these two worlds combine, very odd things start to happen.
i kept finding myself in a world i was calling "the collective sewer."
it was a sort of hellish realm where everything people don't want to see and are ignoring goes to this mental dungeon.
everything that scares you, everything that is uncomfortable to see, thrives in these pits of neglected awareness.
now i was being forced into these realms: almost like being crucified, for the unaware world at large.
there were evil creatures and faces appearing and mocking me....the acid puts it's spin on this world by elongating and enlarging certain parts of these creatures to other-worldly proportions.
like i could zoom in on their lips, which were "grotesque and hairy", and the left side would start to stretch and become bigger then the whole head and then shrink back down.

it felt like i was having acid visuals inside of an ayahuasca vision!!

the kundalini buzzing was vibrating at such an alarming intensity that all i was experiencing for a time was the whole universe absorbed in one static electrical buzzing. it wasn't exactly comforting or spiritual like being absorbed in the OM vibration or something; it was more like being absorbed in a telephone wire: one large spherical grid of electrocuted oneness.

another interesting phenomena that i remember and haven't experienced on any other psychedelic trip:
for a short time in the trip, i was seeing a white light in the distance of wherever i was looking.
it started when i was looking at a picture of a spiritual master...
his eyes remained the same but his whole body turned into a prehistoric winged dragon of some sort.
as this velociraptor-bird looked fiercely at me his eyes elongated into rainbow-lit tunnels and at the end of the tunnels were a radiantly bright white light.
for a while after this i kept seeing that transcendent white light wherever i would look.
going into the light never occurred to me, my only thought was of making it through this rough ocean of experience.

after three hours of basically praying for my poor, non-understanding soul to be spared these nightmares the intensity let up just a little bit.
up till this point i couldn't even really walk. when i'd get up to go to the bathroom i didn't understand how to use my legs.
the caapi-induced vertigo was in full swing.
while standing over the toilet my whole vision would just melt away into something i couldn't really understand or interpret.
trusting the urine made it in it's correct destination i just stumbled back to my blanket and dipped back in the sewer visions!!
it's been awhile since i was this overwhelmed, i couldn't even figure out how to plug in christmas lights at one point!!!
i kept feeling like my consciousness was coming from a different point in the room watching everything take place.
this made it especially difficult to do things like use a body or brain that i didn't feel like i had any relation to.

peak lasted 3 hours, full-formed visions lasted 6 hours, open eye visuals 9 hours, was high ALL the next day. this is a LONG trip. be prepared.

this was absolutely one of the most awe-inspiring trips ever, both in terms of insight gained and intricacy of the visions.
if i could go back i would have taken 20 grams caapi and started with only 1/4 the hit of LSD and boosted if necessary.
the intensity from the 55 mcg was easily quadrupled....it felt like 200 mcs easily, which is way too much for me personally.

it's so much easier to start slowly. you can drop the acid at virtually any point after you've fully come-up on the caapi.
my advice is to come-up fully on your caapi tea, assess how you feel, and dose lightly/moderately of the LSD from there.
it's so much easier to spread the trip out than to try to release into 2 different experiences at the same time!!!
that's just my take....be safe friends.
thanks for listening to my rambling!!

WOW. Now that's what i call a trip report! I love ms lucy but damn does she have a sick sense of humor sometimes. How good does it feel to survive that one with your sanity brotha? Hope your next voyage is a little bit easier on ya , but then again its the tough ones that teach the greatest lessons.

i know really, i've never felt that "sick sense of humor" in caapi before, the LSD was like a trans-dimentional joker highjacking my Aya experience and rendering it utterly absurd at times!!!!
at one point i called a friend somehow (after dialing the wrong number first!!) and said, "mannnn, come by if you.....can......bring....tranquilizer......"
i said to my ego, "you really wanna duck out of this?!?! shame on you! there's always more to be gotten out of the bad trips."
ego has it's ways....
when tranquilizers came, i was feeling quite ecstatic, however, and rode the rest out with head high and conscience clear.

That darn ego always holding onto reality.....

whoah, thats a crazy ride, dragon. Since scientifically the action that LSD (and most psychs) have is unexplained I don't think any scientific proof of potentiation is possible, beyond the simple increase absorbtion, decrease metabolism/expulsion modes. Psychological potentiation is always possible and also possibly very strong. Anyways, science is inherently limited and the experience that you have is the ultimate truth. And that sounds like a really strong experience

How much lemon juice was in there?!?!

yeah, you can see here if you want (half-way through the third paragraph) that it has something to do with LSD receptors being "occupied" by the (in that case) synthetic MAOI. even if we don't understand the "how" of it, we can figure out which medicines "block" the LSD action, which was proven by people's non-response to a normally active dose.
but i don't really care about that stuff, personally...it has nothing to do with taking caapi and LSD, which is absurdly potent.
i'm quite sure the synthetic MAOI they used in the study doesn't cause visions on it's own accord, like caapi!!!!
i agree that experience is the ultimate truth, so long as it's tempered by reason and intuition and not blinded by hastiness and inattention.
thanks for your response Ouro!

only half a lemon per brew....so maybe a tablespoon or so.
i don't brew mine extensively either. 2 brews of 1.5 hours each.
some say lemon juice makes the taste horrible but i just mix my brew with enough grapefruit/orange juice to kill the flavor anyway so it doesn't matter what the brew tastes like in the first place.

Dragon, that article is very interesting. The style of it is a little annoying to me though... it seems like it has a lot of speculation hidden behind scientific grammar/vocab/lingo. I'm still struggling to understand maoi better, but I don't have any realistic goals of maoi enlightenment I suspect that b carbolines have a lot of activity but also bind temporarily to mao with some half life on order of hours. Different "maoi" may have similar relationship to mao but very different activity at other receptor sites. There could also be variations on peoples mao enzymes due to mutations, etc. Now I'm speculating

my only vine experience was very mild (actually in progress right now), but I did have a very potent rue tea one time... it made me think of that book "my stroke of insight" by jill taylor. She describes how her consciousness changed as a stroke rapidly deactivated different parts of her brain and then as her brain rebuilds its function over a long rehab. The section of her brain that judges the limits of her physical body and the beginning of the rest of the world was shut down for months iirc. I felt that with rue... like I was sliding out of my body whenever I moved since there were no barriers or separations anymore. This would explain some of the nausea, and possibly the blanketted feeling people describe. That sensation could definitely change a trip, making it more intense for example, even if the other substances potency was attenuated.

EDIT: PS if lsd is metabolized like lsa, macrolides and some other antibiotics could give potentiation since they inhibit the appropriate enzymes. I don't know how dangerous this strategy is.

I enjoyed the way it was written. Dragon, I'm tired of being jealous of you! That sounds like quite the combination and experience. oh I miss Lucy.

you'll meet a mad chemist one day, psilochild, one day!!! and then all the molecules of your dreams will be yours!!!
till then i'll just keep you posted!

That was one hell of a writeup.
I will have to break out my Cielo Caapi and commence to brewing. I will take the caapi once or twice by itself again tho b4 taking it w/ any LSD. I only tried Caapi once and by itself and want to get more familiar b4 adding anything.
How was the Mescaline + Caapi BTW? Mescaline is probably my second favorite after LSD.
Nothing is as mind blowing as the sights seen on DMT but LSD was my first love and will probably always be my favorite and mescaline is similar but different and I have an affinity for cacti so I was not too surprised to like it.

Thanks for sharing Dragon-n.

From personal experience i can tell that harmala's and LSD most definately do have a synergistic effects and that LSD most definately get's altered and amplified by harmala's.
The only source of harmala's i've ever taken with LSD is passionflower, but even this in comparison to caapi and rue, relatively weak source of harmala's had a profound effect on the LSD-experiences i had.

I don't know what science has to say on it, but i know that potentiation just happens as well as strong alteration. It realy does.

^^I agree with this. My one experience with Syrian Rue and LSD was VERY intense. Only 2g of Rue followed by a decent dose of LSD. I first noticed there was something very different with this experience when I saw a black vine like thing growing up the side of the fireplace. This is not a normal LSD effect for me, and there was some definite alteration/synergy from the Rue. The trip was very visual, taking on the form of actual visions in the dark night as oppose to visual distortions, and I was extremely hyper with energy. It seemed quite hard on my body this combination, there was an elevated pulse and blood pressure I strongly suspect, and at times it definitely had a darker psychological edge then LSD alone. I did this on the sly and my good friend and long term trip partner was concerned I was beginning to crack, he could tell my behaviour was different from 'normal' tripping, so I informed him of my little experiment and this eased his mind. Needless to say I won't be repeating this.

I've done caapi and LSD quite a few times. Really beautiful synergy every time. Makes the LSD experience more earthy and grounded. One time myself and the same friend dropped some after a homebrewed caapi and DMT session. The LSD was definitely enhanced by the residual caapi, and the visuals for the whole trip had more of a DMT look/glint to them. The euphoria was also enhanced, particularly while coming up. A combination I'd be happy to repeat sometime.

i just diluted my Acid sugar cube in a cup of water and then drank half.
if you're in a good place on the caapi, not too overwhelming, and you feel adventurous, you can always take it real slow.
if you dilute a cube (or whatever the form of Acid) in a cup of water you can just take 1/8 a cup or 1/4 a cup.
as long as you go slowly and lightly you'll never get overwhelmed by it. (like i did! )


i prefer mescaline to LSD 99 times out of 100. LSD is way more mind-blowing, no doubt.
but that's not really where i'm at in life, these days.
i don't necessarily need to "crack open the veil" to have an awe-inspiring time.
there is a link in my original post here to my description of my caapi + mescal experience. it would be overkill to talk about it here.
it was way, way, way, way more gentle though than adding the LSD.
i saw some things on caapi/lsd that you could only see with smoked DMT!
but i would trade that mind-blowing intensity any day for the sweet, gentle, benevolence of a mescaline introspection.
mescaline really does show you the right way to live...no illusions, no games, no mind-bending, just the joy of being whole.
but alas, i don't enjoy coming up for 3 hours!! that's part of the reason i tried the caapi with LSD in the first place:
mescaline aya made me sit there for 4 hours before i was peaking!!
it's almost like mescaline KNOWS he's king and just makes you wait for him cos he knows he's worth it!!!

thanks for your posts everybody!! you thoughtful souls are making my day!!

Visionary indeed! I liked this report, it seems like it was written on the edge of infinity. Thanks for posting.

I find LSD to be very focused around the visuals. I have not tried it with an MAOI but I have tried HBWR with a medium dosage of Ayahuasca during the peak and it was just lovely, no vomit (I think because I was already in a psychedelic place). They seemed to complement each other well, the plants tend to do that. I find with chemicals and plants the synergies can have a lot of bumps along the way. One thing I noticed was the ability to make a strange high pitch sound "memememememe" which would do crazy things to the people around me they all looked at me bizarrely for a few minutes haha .

Great writeup! I've been interested in trying either Rue or Caapi w/ LSD. I'll be sure to take it slow w/ the LSD though.

70 mg of bc extract + ~200 mics = 8 hrs of insane, crazy beauty. Synesthesia of unbearable power. More than 24 hrs to baseline.
Thank you, dragon!