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#1 Posted : 9/6/2010 2:23:15 PM

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So yesterday a handful of good friends and myself decided to drop some tabs of acid. All of them only wanted to take one, and there was an extra left over, and I always find the character of the trip to have a higher quality with two over one, so I dropped two. It was quite the trip, and the perfect day outside. Probably right around when the peak was just about finishing as we would start our long descents back into sober reality, one of my friends suggested we try smoking some DMT. None of them had tried it, but we had been talking about it for a while. Even though I insisted that they should probably try it without any acid first, they were determined, and as seasoned trippers, I was fairly certain they would be able to handle themselves. To make sure it wasn't completely over-the-top, as the only one in the group with any DMT experience, and as the one on the most acid at the time, I decided to test the waters. We loaded up my GVG on my porch, and it was around sunset. The experience was absolutely heavenly. The patterns were much more intense than usual, but there was also a paradoxically intense yet calming feeling throughout my body. My friends were equally as ecstatic about their experiences. I was nevertheless disappointed that the LSD synergy wasn't enough to kick me through to hyperspace, as I've still yet to breakthrough, but it was definitely one of my better, if not best experience with spice to date. I was initially hesitant about doing the two together as I was mainly afraid of what would happen after the DMT had run its course, but it just helped to drag out the acid trip, which I was rather grateful for.
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#2 Posted : 9/6/2010 3:22:01 PM

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Oh MAN DMT + LSD = AMAZING COMBO! I'm not one for chakra's, but when everyone around you has a third eye you really start to laugh at how reality is just an interpretation.
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#3 Posted : 9/10/2010 1:29:38 PM
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This reminds me of a talk by McKenna where he describes his student years, one night tripping on acid and on the peak of the trip he took a large hit of DMT shooting him off... but while he was in hyperspace, some neighbor started banging on the door to come in, it scared the shit out of him, he flew back into 3D, bringing back with him his infamous machine elves. Damn... I have try this at least once Smile
 
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#4 Posted : 9/11/2010 4:54:02 AM

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Mush and DMT anyone? I have yet to decide if or when I should ever use DMT, but then of all times... That would be quite a journey.
 
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#5 Posted : 9/11/2010 11:56:17 AM
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Ur wrote:
Mush and DMT anyone? I have yet to decide if or when I should ever use DMT, but then of all times... That would be quite a journey.


A friend of mine did it while we were tripping, we had a full portion (like they sell in the dutch stores) of the dragon dynamite truffles, which are ridiculously potent and visual, I had a non-stop 8 hour giggle, tiring as hell but interesting! Anyway, after an hour into the trip he he had his shot of q21q21 jungle dmt; he said it was an awesome experience but it did paralyze him for at least 5 min. or so. It seems like you don't really 'pass out' like you normally do with the spice alone, perhaps it rather enhances or 'upgrades' the mush trip.

Anyway, can't tell you much else but I've read many good stories here on the forum about the mush/spice combi. It's definitely on my wish list for next time... just remember to prepare the spice/pipe before the mush trip starts Pleased
 
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#6 Posted : 9/11/2010 5:54:58 PM

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Use DMT alone first, then try it with mushrooms, disrespecting these entheogens by combining their powers carelessly can take you someplace you never wanna be...
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#7 Posted : 9/12/2010 4:58:57 AM

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Lol, no I wouldn't try such a thing at this point. I'm not sure I will ever be vaporising any DMT... It seems much too abrupt and experience. I find level 6 Saliva experience can be the defenition of the words "unpleasantly disorienting", and often downright inscrutable. and I'm sure I haven't the tripping under my belt, let alone the accomplishment of sufficient non abiding in mental constructs to handle myself on DMT. However I am considering adding ayahuasca to the list of things I'd be willing to try in the future. The plan is to try LSA Mushies, more salvia, perhaps mescaline. Then if I I feel competent to go further harmala alkaloids, psilohuasca and then ayahuasca. I have only used Saliva extract (20x,30x,40x) and leaves 40-50 times since 2005. Sometimes with a sitter, more often alone. The strange fusions and synesthesia are one of the aspects of the Salvia trip I find most insightful.

By the way, how might one juxtapose DMT with Salvia?
 
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#8 Posted : 9/13/2010 2:06:34 AM

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The intensity and duration are similar. The similarities end there. I've met many people who have been afraid to try spice because of the fear that their salvia experiences have instilled in them, but these same people usually end up enjoying their spice experiences. I've smoked salvia and DMT pretty much the same amount of times, and I am much more fearful of Sally D.
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#9 Posted : 9/13/2010 4:12:53 AM

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Oh wow, now I'm actually psyched. I've been reading more about the subject and at first I was under the impression that smoking DMT would be a more intense and frightening experience than oral use. Now I see that the short duration makes the intensity of a smoked DMT trip more tolerable. Thats actually the same reason I myself favour Sally over Acid.

Well I am certainly less aprehensive about using DMT but I still think I'm gonna proceed with much more caution than I did with Salvia. I took that shit took lightly at times and I got what was coming. Shocked I've learned to appreciate a deep sense of depersonalization sally gives me. Not like it per se, but really get something out of it.
 
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#10 Posted : 9/13/2010 7:15:57 AM

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Yeah, DMT and salvia are in no way comparable.


I've never broken through on DMT + LSD, but when I've smoked a hit or so during an acid peak, there's an unmistakeable potentiation. Came really close to a breakthrough the last time I did it, unintentionally, but then regretted not smoking more! =)
 
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#11 Posted : 9/13/2010 6:19:56 PM

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TheAppleCore wrote:
Yeah, DMT and salvia are in no way comparable.


I've never broken through on DMT + LSD, but when I've smoked a hit or so during an acid peak, there's an unmistakeable potentiation. Came really close to a breakthrough the last time I did it, unintentionally, but then regretted not smoking more! =)


I always regret not smoking more Rolling eyes
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#12 Posted : 9/13/2010 11:06:17 PM

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LSD + DMT synergise together very very well indeed. One of my most blissful and amazing smoked DMT experiences was on LSD. And then again, but with changa as oppose to freebase. Quite different, but every bit as beautiful and blissful. Not smoked DMT/changa on mushrooms, but can imagine it being even better...definitely high on my 'to do' list. Wink
 
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#13 Posted : 9/14/2010 5:59:56 AM

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The LSD usually synergizes very well with DMT IME, the dmt experience seems to last much longer than usual which gives you more time to integrate, but be careful sometimes you can be stuck in hyperspace for awhile, I def do not reccomend this for people who are not experienced with hyperspace.
 
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#14 Posted : 9/14/2010 1:35:59 PM

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I found the duration and perception of the duration to be identical with/without the LSD
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#15 Posted : 9/14/2010 5:49:17 PM

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Must be subjective, I felt that it lasted way longer and boosted the visuals for a long period of time. But maybe it was extreme time dilation?
 
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#16 Posted : 9/14/2010 7:11:40 PM

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Has anyone done this with mushrooms?
I have some quality cubes and a supply of spice and was thinking about entering this state. I have read other trip reports from an adventurous psychonaut who used the fungi+spice combo and said it was intense, but the elves were bemused as to why he would enter hyperspace on mushrooms, not angry at him, just a little entertained haha.
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#17 Posted : 9/14/2010 8:58:59 PM

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I have not personally but my friends who have tried it all seem to love it, they all say that the two synergize amazingly, one says he prefers to blast off 5-10 mins after he eats his cubes, so he can integrate his experience throughout his whole trip. The other one prefers to do it during the peak, in which he theorizes that two types of DMT molecules (N,N DMT and 4-HO-DMT) combine to bring you to a beautiful, intense, and otherworldly place. He says the mushrooms tend to add an even more spiritual sense to the DMT. So there's opinions of two of my friends. Hope it helps you, and safe trails.
 
 
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