This was my first experience not with the spice but blasting off so to speak this is from a few months back and I some what want answers and a point of view from some one who knows what happened to me and what went wrong.. I understand that mixing chemicals like that is not safe and I know that type of behavior is highly looked down upon and I can understand why after the experience.


Ok guys so I was out partying at a concert and had done some special K and drank through out the night.

At the end of the night I was with a group of people all smoking the spice and doing bumps of K (not smart I know I was some what of a jack ass when i was younger) and well for some strange reason I got this MASSIVE MASSIVE hit, I didnt intend to it just kinda happened. (I was planning on just having some visuals and body buzzing but I got launched into hyper space hell!) I still havent figured out how to control the amount that I intake I just inhale till i cant any more but I feel like this time the pipe was so hot that I got this hug rip.

Mind you we had all added spice into the pipe and not fully cleared it so there was a large amount sitting in the pipe.


this is what happened

I took the rip Exhaled and blacked out. I remember spots and parts of the trip and I will try to explain it After exhaling I saw this massive cloud of smoke and instantly knew this was going to be bad.


At this point I was no longer a parson....I was living in a world of that look like this





But That was my world there was no me or body or eyes I could not see anything in my surroundings or people I was out of total control and just lived in this world of crazy visual with no body my eyes were open but all i saw was a world that look like those pictures and getting shot around these tubes into crazy worlds. I felt that this has now become my reality and I have permanently damaged myself and will be living in this world forever....and then came the puke.... I had suddenly felt this feeling of a being that i was looking at in the trippy world appear and start spewing liquid sludge all over me and my world it was as you can imagine the scariest thing ever and i felt i was going to drown in it and die.....This figure that was similare to the clowns in a clockwork orange seem to have a riddle for me while this was going on and I had to find the answer or I was surly dead. Some how I said the right thing in his foreign language and then shot into another tube and was out of there.

All of a suddenly i started noticing the real world come back at first my friends rubbing my back and telling me it will be over soon and to say something if I could hear them...I came too still tripping very hard on my knees in a crouched position with my head in my arms on the floor and no idea what had just happened. I went from exhaling smoke to half naked on the floor with the smell of vomit, stuff all over the table on the floor blood and the chair knocked over with scrapes all over the wall.


What was happening in the real world***

From accounts of my friends what had happened was I hit the pipe really hard stood up really fast with a terrified look on my face and crashed hard backwards hitting over the table chair and other stuff. I was on the ground and was twitching and flopping around like a fish convulsing and slamming my head into the ground squirming around rubbing my face hard into the carpet. this went on for about 3 to 5 minutes and my friends were freaking out! trying to hold me down and make sure i dont do any more damage to my body. I then am rolling around and get into the position on my knees. I had not actually thrown up but was kinda foaming at the mouth/ dry heaving and it was more or less thick saliva.


It was very scary but did bring me to a new world I was unaware of.... However If this is was hyper space is How would n e one find that fun?

Does the mixture of special K have n e thing to do with the way i reacted. how do I take a dose that would allow me to go to hyper space but not become in this seizure like state that cause damage to my body and house.

The experience for what i can remember parts of it were enjoyable and I would love to visit that part again but not the bad parts of the vomit dry heaving episodes.

What can I do how do i do it to get to a happier hyper space??

This was my first real experience with outer space and it just some what shook me up and made me want to take a good look at myself...

I then found out that a friend of mine who had the same spice had a very similar experience with the foaming at the mouth....Do you think this could be due to poorly extracted spice?

any thoughts would be greatly appreciated

Wow man, that sounds like a scary experience.

1-Dont mix alcohol and DMT
2-Dont mix alcohol and K
3-Extract your own DMT so you know what you are smoking.

Foaming at the mouth doesnt sound right man, but mixing alcohol/DMT/K is not a good mix IMO.

But hey, look at the positive side of this, you are looking at yourself in a new light.

And, the DMT experience is extreme, its not just a walk in the park. Next time you venture down this road again, take care of set and setting, make sure you have a nice and comfy place to sit down, no booze or weed, no distractions and if you doubt the quality of the Spice, extract it yourself.

Disrespect DMT and it will give you a proper ass whipping.

Ass whipping is an under statement for sure. But the spice i had I did extract myself...thats why im wondering if what I did was wrong i did a basic stright to base extraction with Lye and VM & P Naptha the did a PH balance/wash with PH up for pools... then used epson salt for drying then freeze precipitate then collected crystals and let evaporate my final product looked like corn bread crumbs and melted....and after a lot of use out of the same pipe there was impurities that were burned into the bottom of the bowl.... So I know that I need to one get more impurities out and two figure out hard to make it look more crystally and not like corn bread

So you never experienced this before with the same batch of spice?
And your mate, was he taking K and booze too when he was foaming at the mouth?

Either way, your extraction sounds fine. Ive puked/dry heaved before witth DMT, I put it down to hypersickness/cybersickness. When the visuals came on, it was just too much for my body to handle that I just puked.

Dude you were tripping pretty hard
Something similar happened to me with very strong salvia, the first time I ever did it

stay away from combinations, sounds like you can take it
maybe when you have vast experiences with separate substances
do not disrespect sustances, they are not toys, and I am sure you can tell now..

I cant tell you how to cook anything, I am no expert, but I can comment that foaming, is a red light for your koocking methods, and combinations

Unless you want trips to get worse, stop the madness and try other things or stop combinations

you are probably looking specifically for a recipe and are tired of this kind of comments about being careful..

I wish you well and pray your experiences dont stop there but become learnings and practices that enrich your life

Love

Maid well put. I some what laugh at it now and say i never had a dad to kick my ass and set me straight but MR clockwork orange clown surely did real fast!

I since have used much more caution in my trips and no longer even us out of body mind bend substances together its just not logical to do so.

as for my buddy he was not on the same cocktail as I was he had a good enjoyable trip but just had this foam situation... But this foaming only happened on very large hyperspace hits and not small pre blast off hits. But after that experience I went to my little box of dirty secrets and tossed everything out I didnt want to be around it for a at least a few solid clear headed months

I have been to the places in the picture dude!!!!! Its fucking mad, thats why my avatar is similar. It was the only pic i could find to symbolise my one experience with DMT.

I was sober before taking it (apart from being a bit stoned) but i found the entities (from the lower picture) to be malicious. If you were in a K-hole, aswel as being drunk then they could seem terrifying. Thankfully I didnt get scared of them! The entity in the middle was female and the leader of the trio. The two skulls either side were more like servants doing the queens bidding. The queen was very angry in general but i didnt let her have her way with me and she soon gave up and the two cronies then tried but i gave them nothing either!

The full post where i explain the whole experience...... https://dmt-nexus.me/for...aspx?g=posts&t=15137


Do you remember if you had any communication with them?

Glad u r ok, man. sounds like a heavy one. Similar thing happened to a friend of mine, but without the convulsing. He was a bit drunk and took too much. He sounded like he was trying to get air with his head hunched over (sitting position). I pushed him back upright and yelled "breath" really loud and he took a massive breath to my relief. He was drooling and shaking. He came out smiling but not knowing what happened and didn't remember anything.

As others have said, don't mix drink and DMT or K and DMT. Thanks for sharing and be safe!

What you describe happened to me . it was the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced hands down.
Its my personal benchmark for shear terror.

I had a cup of caapi vine tea berforehand but the main thing is that I was alone and had alot of anxiety.

I got an extra large hit of the stuff , i think the dose was way more than I thought it was.

The onset was very aggressive and super powerful and I was sucked into this patterned vortex like you describe.

I lost all sense of myself and became splintered into a million fragments totally lost in the hyperspace hell.
It felt like I had pushed the limit and crossed over to a point where i was never coming back to normal.

I have never looked at spice the same after that happened. Ultimately it was for the better because it forced me to bring a new level of respect for it. I am super careful about my set, setting and dose. If things are not right I don't mess around and stay far away from it.

For whatever reason this stuff does not mix well with any kind of negativity whatsoever.

Person anxiety can loop out of control. Never mix with alcohol it simply doesn't work.

Having a Positive sincere loving attitude is the only way that i approach this stuff now.

Are you joking?
If you had respect for the substance you wouldn't do something like that.
Ridiculous comparison by the way.

The last couple of times I launched off, I did a bum of k beforehand to dull some of the anxiety. It worked well, though I was very far from a k-hole, and was not in "party mode". I think that's the killer. A couple of drinks should be ok, or a bit of k should be ok, but you don't want to be stumbling off the dance floor with your friends and reaching for the pipe. You need to be calm and ready, DMT is about as far from a party drug as it gets. I prefer doing it alone, even, just me and hyperspace. You have to be in a state where you understand that the whole world will change and be replaced, so that you may ease into it somewhat and float calmly while you're in it, or it'll hit you like a ton of bricks. I think we create the space we visit, and regardless of what you took, those "places" you saw were a reflexion of the state you were in.

Excuse my ignorance fellows, what is this "K" that people mention quite a lot in this site?

thank you

LOVE

It's Ketamine...I don't think it's mentioned all that much, but hey, what do I know

I have been through that exact same dissolution many times. Normally, I can relax into it and just breathe, but sometimes, if I am unable to relax, it can be absolutely terrifying. Coming to the insights that follow, though, in a safe and supportive setting, has always been worth it for me. It feels like going completely underwater, submerging myself.

Thank goodness your friends were there.

The only time I ever had a bad experience with mushrooms (years ago!) was when I drank alcohol. Lots of fear, and I felt sick. Part of the great teachings of these medicines, for me, has been ultimate attention to respect of all living things, myself/my body included. Therefore, mixing drugs recreationally would be a huge disrespect to this explicitly expressed tenant, and a beating would be sure to follow.

On the whole, I have had hundreds of extremely positive (albeit heavy!) journeys, but lots of this I credit to scrupulous attention to set/setting/lifestyle.

Just don't make the same mistakes twice...

Thank you for sharing, glad you made it through.

Thank you guys for your input. as i do understand how to handle myself and avoid so obvious do's and donts after the experience... I guess I must ask how do you get rid of the anxiety mind you every time I smoked it i was some what nervous and careful except for the obvious exception but If i was in a clear state of mind i would still be anxious as hell and you guys seem to be saying that with anxiety come hyper space hell or am I misunderstanding that?

I find a certain degree of anxiety inherent to the experience (at least prior to smoking). However, from what I've heard from others, I believe I find this to be the case because I do not "pre-launch" or use a small dose of spice to get a taste of hyperspace prior to my full dose. I tend to load up my full dose and just give it a go. Usually my anxiety lasts up through the very early stages of the come-up. Then, once everything really begins rushing/flowing, I kind of slip out of it (along with my body, thoughts, and this plane of reality). On those occasions where I have not been in the greatest of mental sets, it is considerably and noticeably harder to just slip out into the hyperspatial flow and lose the anxiety. The two things that come to mind in relation to that difficulty are; only smoke when you are as sure as you can be that you are of a good mindset and/or take a small taste of spice prior to your full-dose experience to ease your nerves/test the waters.

Going up is often terrifying, but once up and through, it's smooth sailing. Fortunately, coming fully up doesn't last more than a few seconds, usually!

The second smoke is always the best, IMHO. Once "up," there's no fear of going back up...

Even if you love swimming, some days, the water feels cold when you dip your toes in the pool... but nothing will be resolved until you take the plunge head first.

I think its very important to keep your mind clear and positive on blast off. If you blow out your hit and the size of it looks too big you better lie to yourself and say its a good thing. Once that fear starts if you can't turn it around it just gets worse and worse. I'm sure the other drugs didn't help either though lol. O well, you live and you learn right? Lol

-safe journeys buddy

Sounds really terrifying man. I've been to scary space before without mixing anything, so I can only imagine being under the influence of your mentioned substances. I had a buddy who had been drinking and begged me to hit the spice. After saying no repeatedly, my buddy annoyed me enough to pack him some electric sheep. He was fine the first minute, but then went into the loudest dry heaves I have ever heard. I'm not a drinker myself, but I always recommend staying away from grandpa's cough medicine when embarking on a spice journey. Glad you made it through the ordeal, I think those trips hold their own special benefit.