SWIM realizes that Caapi vine is inherently inconsistent between batches and even within batches of the same strain/color.

Still, SWIM is interested in other swimmer's experiences between the so-called "colors" of vine, and their characteristics or whether there even seems to be a preference.

He would also be curious to know if these are truly different phenotypes of B. Caapi, or just different parts of the vine, older parts of the vine, etc.

i had never heard of ourinhos caapi so i looked up a little bit.
i found a vendor that said this about it:

"Ourinhos could be freely translated as Little Gold. The name, which is also a Brazilian city, was given to the B. caapi plant because of the golden coloration of the brew made with it. This is a very powerful strain used in most of the official ceremonies of the Santo Daime, União do Vegetal and Barquinha churches in Brazil. This strain is also referred to as 'Yellow caapi'."

are ourinhos and yellow caapi just the same thing??

later on in this vendor's print about caapi they mentioned that it is inactive on it's own and needs to be activated by DMT.
you have to be ignorant or have had a lobotomy to think that caapi isn't active on it's own.
so i don't know if they're just speaking in ignorance about yellow being the same.

I've had a vendor tell me that yellow and cielo are the same. Often I'm told black caapi from peru is also known as red caapi and black caapi from ecuador is the "thunder" caapi.

Apparently they really, really aint. Don't trust any old vendor to be a reliable source of information.

It's all about the white

Not at all...ourinhos is considerably more potent, ime. I work pretty much exclusively with Ourinhos and cant say enough good things about it. I don't know what vendor had that information, but it is wildly inaccurate. It does mean, "litle gold" but that's about the only thing they got right (and it's Brazilian).

red

Red for sure. Then black behind that. Then white. Then yellow.

Just getting my caapi toe wet, and don't have enough data points for accurate comparisons, but I do have some questions:
1. What can you do with the leftover caapi pulp after the boils? Currently I am adding it to the compost. Are they worth freezing for a rainy day to coax out a few more active molecules?
2. Anybody ever try a tea or ayabrew consisting of multiple colors of caapi....like a red/black brew in a carefully planned 60/40 ratio, or yellow/white, etc??? Or maybe just a bunch of random, bottom-of-the-barrel pieces of vine??? Couldn't find a word written about it! I do this with cactus all the time and it makes for some great experiences.

Well, there can be alkaloids still in the bark after brewing. Here's an experiment I did that's kind of related to that.

Hi Pau




These are excellent questions I have never seen discussed here in the Nexus... yet I would think they would be more visible in a separate thread. Perhaps you or a mod could start this topic with the same post. To answer your first question. My experience is that after a good boil most everything is off. I have tried to squeeze more from it (after over a month) but could get only trace amounts of harmalas. These are promptly detected by UV light, so I'm pretty certain that, at least for that batch, after an acidic boil nothing of value remains.

To answer the OP question: Red!