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5-MeO-DALT? Anyone try this? Options
 
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#21 Posted : 8/30/2010 2:02:44 PM

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Well he toked it day after 18 hrs long alfa-MT trip so the might be some tolerance to tryptamines

He`ll try to smoke it soon and also higher doses orally .

If nothing happened he`ll combined it with harmalas and he`ll see

ILPT recently tried 3 r.c.s: MDAI, AMT and 5MeoDALT and have to say the 5MeODALT is the less rewarding from them, up to dose of 50 mgs. Higher doses should be better as some parrots suggesting.
We`ll see Wut?
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#22 Posted : 8/30/2010 3:02:43 PM

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how do u find the mdai and amt ?
just tried 5-meo-dalt, 2c-e and 2c-t-2 so far.
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#23 Posted : 8/30/2010 8:02:14 PM

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How did you smoke it phlux?
Is it hcl or what form?
 
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#24 Posted : 8/30/2010 10:48:46 PM

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^sounds like DiPT from the way you describe the music sounding dirty..I never had DiPT though I cant say for sure..maybe it was 5meo DiPT, but I haveheard that its not like DiPT and that 5meo DiPT is a nice experience without the weird audio distortions of DiPT so I cant really say.

I remember Dennis Mckenn mentioning 5meo DALT is an interesting experience.



Do you have any source for this? I would be very curious. For some reason I kind of doubt Dennis would has said this as he is more into plant-based hallucinogens. Also I haven't heard any of recent talks of his and this is a relatively novel material (5 years or so). I know he has used synthetics (4-MeO-DMT etc.) and discussed them so it is very possible but I have not heard anything about this. Please enlighten me?
 
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#25 Posted : 9/4/2010 1:27:19 AM

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150mg oral gave me a 4 hour trip with a bit of nausea for all those who say this compound is inactive arent dosing high enough.
 
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#26 Posted : 9/12/2010 2:13:39 AM

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I get such a kick out of the fact that toad venom and the 5-meo-dmt, and 5-meo-dalt have such a similar taste when vaporized or smoked. It's a very chemical-like taste, but "almost" flowery. 5-meo-dalt tastes the worst of the three. The trips produced by each are drastically different, but similar just because they are both tryptamines. Very similar body buzz, the "dread" produced by venom can be found, but also the euphoria. The onset and duration of smoking toad venom and smoking 5-meo are very similar. The venom lacks the srong body buzz, and has a completely different "head space." The dalt is more of a "wow" and the toad produces a sudden relaxation. The toad venom brings out peace, silence, almost like a "reset button." The 5-meo-dalt is like a roller-coaster. (sorry, my words seem so useless to me in describing the differences)

Orally the stuff is rather uninteresting, unless I add an maoi or smoke it while using it orally. I can see how people relate this to mdma, the rush and euphoria produced is remeniscent of mdma. The visuals are almost but not quite there. Stuff wants to move, but doesn't. Patterns look like they are about to form, but they don't. The empathy is there, but I get that with mushrooms. So, though, I understand why people relate this drug to mdma, it's much closer to a trypt feeling than a phen feeling. It feels more like venom or mushrooms versus mdma or cactus.

Though I haven't dared anything higher than 23 mg so far orally and 15mg vaporized. I hope this helps some of y'all out there, even if it is a complete untruth, told by someone who is not me. Wut? I'd like to hear the comparison of smoking dmt to smoking dalt. I've smoked toad venom, but never smoked dmt.

ps. I believe this is the freebase, its white and fluffy crystalline powder. It's not brown whatsoever

pps. 23mg 5-meo-dalt was consumed about 45 minutes after taking 200mg of white fluffy rue extract.The rue brought out a nice calming effect and a slight feeling in the chest. The dalt was taken in a veggie cap. The onset was very quick. A tryptamine buzz set in with 15-30 minutes. I hopped in the bathtub and thoroughly enjoyed the hot water. Slight nausea with the come-up. Spent time listening to music, dancing, playing on the computer. I had planned on smoking some dalt, while peaking, but that didn't seem like a good idea at the time. Back to baseline within 6 hours. Very enjoyable, orally seems much more similar mdma or mushroom, versus smoking.
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#27 Posted : 10/21/2010 8:29:07 PM

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My opinion:

First off. Lets not be stupid with this beautiful substance, and lets keep what we have people.

The body high is heavy and intense, alot like the mdma rush.

The psychedelic seemed to increase with dose, nice vision of the vibes.

It slows your mind down so you can see and listen. great for meditation.

Small amounts smoked with K was amazing. Again very intense.

Wanted to try it with mushrooms because of how they talk, but it was gone before I could find them.
Me thinks I need to go cow picking...

lots of potential. needs a good intention to keep it in a comfortable control level.
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#28 Posted : 10/21/2010 8:41:26 PM

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LawnBoy wrote:
ps. I believe this is the freebase, its white and fluffy crystalline powder. It's not brown whatsoever


It could be hcl, I have white crystals that are hcl.

Can you tell me about your maoi experience?
What substance did you use ?
What dosage on the maoi and the dalt?
 
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#29 Posted : 1/10/2011 4:32:26 AM

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so whats the verdict on this one?
i ordered some so i guess will soon find out but was wondering if any one had mor info/input in this RC.
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#30 Posted : 1/10/2011 8:23:32 AM

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swim thought to order some too,but he has red somewhere it's nothing special but it last 2-4h (?) an has red of a guy that taken it during lessons at school Rolling eyes doesn't remember the dosage anyway,not a high dose anyway.
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#31 Posted : 1/11/2011 10:30:43 PM

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i gots it but no scale...Confused
thinkin on eyeballin it but know how stupid this can be...
no telling when i will get a good scale and i feel confident because... well,
reports on jwh compounds made me nervouse and i took my time also eyeballin and it turned out that every one was tripin on nothen!!!
i've had way worse from really good sativas.
good for a laugh any ways but i also know this is not jwh...
what dose 20-30 mg look like?
any body gots a scale i can use?


EDIT: i also know that every one is different so what may be earth shattering for one may be a walk in a boring park for another....
i just want to clarify that im no beeter than anyone els just cause.... blah, blah
to keep it pc and allWink
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#32 Posted : 1/12/2011 6:37:08 PM

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i cant say how much but can give a method of admin.
somebody filled a 25mg capsule w/ 5-meo-dalt and said capsule goes down the hatch.
T+0:45.. hella feelin somthing. crazy body high developing very quickly
T+0:55.. shit damn feeling sickish... puke and feel much better.
this state of high lasted about 5 hours and i would say its almost identical to good street E but with out that empathic touch and euphoria turned down a couple notches

might smoke some in a couple days to compair effects but not sure how i will mesure this.

personal verdict: 2 thumbs up for a good time, but 1 thumb for entheogenic self realization and personal insight.
more of a toy than a tool, but this opinion is subject to change at any given moment.
will up date as needed.
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#33 Posted : 1/13/2011 1:49:02 PM

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This was the first tryptamine I tried. I think the doses suggested are too low though. 50mg gave me a psychedelic headspace without any noticeable visuals then I smoked some weed & I noticed that metallic surfaces were more shiny and I was getting closed eyed after images of things which would usually not be bright enough to trigger this.

I remember looking in the mirror after 75mg and my whole face morphing into some zen-like figure or perhaps some sort of hindu god. Was the most intense experience I'd had at the time.

Having a gram of the substance, it not being very intense and the fact that it doesn't last long lead me to use it all within a week I'm sorry to say.

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#34 Posted : 4/9/2011 2:34:15 AM

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Yes, I recently was privileged to come across this compound. The two main route's of administration were vaporization and insufflation, with dosages ranging from 5-100 milligrams. If anything I would liken it most to 5-MeO-DiPT (Foxy) as it is extremely tactile, but with a bit more of a psychedelic undertone. It is remarkably potent by vaporization (10 milligrams in a bubble pipe produces VERY pronounced effects) but drops off rather rapidly (peak is reached almost instantly, with effects waning after 30 or so minutes) insufflation produces a milder experience, whose intensity builds with increased dosage. The peak is typically reached within 30-45 minutes, with effects gradually fading within 3-4 hours.

The interesting thing about this one is that it lacks an alkyl group in it's basic composition, so it doesn't fall under the Federal Analog Act, or Misuse of Drugs Act. I'm interested in the pharmacology of this one because if it is anything like Foxy, it doesn't bind to the 5HT-2A serotonin receptor site of traditional psychedelics, but rather at the 5HT-1A (which would explain the MDMA comparison) and would also be an SSRI. I can't seem find any conclusive studies on its pharmacology, however.
(All posts are either for the sake of novelty, entirely hypothetical, or detail these procedures as performed by someone else in a country where their legality is compliant with local regulations)
 
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#35 Posted : 4/15/2011 10:38:22 PM

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I recently obtained a large sample of this 5-Meo-DALT, I should be experimenting with it within the next few weeks. I'll post back here after I have run a few initial tests.

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