Well I'd very much like to extract some DMT, but as some of you who know me from other forums know, I'm 18 and living with my parents. My dad knows about my psychedelic use and as an ex user of psychedelics himself he is perfectly happy with it, my mum on the other hand - who unfortunately happens to be the owner of the house, I have to hide my drug use from as when I told her I smoke Cannabis a year ago she went nuts and threatened to kick me out.

For obvious reasons, extracting DMT - while a simple process, would be very hard to hide. So I'm wondering are there any methods I could use that could be done several times, in a small scale, hidden away in a cupboard or something? I also ideally want to avoid needing access to a stove, oven, or microwave - as it is rare that my mum leaves the house due to her anxiety disorder - so the kitchen is kind of off limits.

I'm worried that because of this I won't be able to extract DMT, or even brew ayahuasca (at least not easily), but I have access to everything I need and I have the money, so if anyone has any possible ideas it'd mean a lot

(PS I'm looking for a way of doing it at home, theoretically I could do it at a friend's house, but since moving to Poland I only have a few friends that agree with psychedelics - nearly all/all of which live with their parents too.)

Edit: Only just noticed I can post in all the forums now, maybe I should have posted this elsewhere

Most teks can be done secretly in a locked bedroom. Take extra caution in this enviroment (mask, clothing, workspace, open window/fan, ect. . .). The only really smelly part is during evaporation. If you freeze precip it greatly decreases smell when you evap the remaining solvent off your Xtals. But you need access to a freezer. You can perform an extraction anywhere just find somewhere to evap.

I must ask you to reconsider this plan. Doing an extraction in a house that you are not the owner or renter of is a serious issue. In this case, everything you do puts your mother (and her property) in serious legal jeopardy. You will be engaging in "The Manufacture of a Controlled Substance" which is not a light charge, regardless of where you live. If she "went nuts and threatened to kick you out" merely for some cannabis use, how do you think she would react to you "making drugs" in her house? It seems to me as though you have not considered all of the personal and legal ramifications of the actions you are considering. Please, DO NOT extract in a house where your name is not on the lease/rental agreement and you do not have the permission of the person who is, it is unwise (and unethical) for many reasons.

Dude, how old are you??

This sounds very bad, extracting a controlled substance in your moms house is bad news, get a job and get your own place!!

swim thinks most parts of the teks available if not all could be done in an equipped room.
although yea, legal issues..

fortunately dmt is uncontrolled where swim lives, but weed; that will get swim the capital punishment.

I think you need to wait until you can find a friend you can work with and has a more suitable situation in which to work in, either that or until you have a more suitable place.

Just work at night, Window open, use a limonen tek it smells less like a chemical.

Or wait until your parents go on vacation..

Dont do this exactly for the reasons Snozzleberry said.

While I do agree that its best done in a place where all the occupants knowingly allow the extraction. You gotta admit we are all hiding our extractions from someone. Friends, family, landlords, roomates, nieghbors, law enforcement somebody won't approve of you doing what we do. Just don't let this stuff jeopordise your life or those you care about. Be responsible. You know what's right.

Peace and love

This is somewhat true but your landlords, neighbors, LEOs, etc... dont pay your rent, feed you, take care of you, and raise you like your parents. Have so e respect for those who gave you life.

Oh please

This isn't about some abstract entity approving or disapproving what you do. This is about the real-world consequences of what happens if you get caught engaging in such activities under a roof that is not LEGALLY your own. It really isn't a hard concept to get. You wouldn't hotbox a car that wasn't yours or where you didn't have the explicit permission of the owner to use the car for smoking weed, would you? Not only is it disrespectful to the owner, if you get busted, it carries the potential of the car being impounded and the actual owner having to deal with legal repercussions. The funny thing is, in that case, the legal ramifications are likely to be much less severe than engaging in the manufacture of controlled substances, yet I'm fairly certain very few individuals would engage in such actions, whereas people (for some strange reason) don't seem to give much thought to the house in which they do an extraction.

Again, this is NOT your house, thus it is NOT for you to decide whether or not an extraction is acceptable. If the owner is cool with it, fine, by all means go ahead. If, as in this case, the owner is adamantly opposed to such activities, DO NOT DO IT. It's not your decision to make, how would you feel if someone went against something you felt incredibly strong about UNDER YOUR OWN ROOF??? Personally, my home is my castle; if you come into it, you are implicitly agreeing to honor my rules and household ways. If you're not ok with that, you don't need to be in my house. It's that simple.

So if you rent your house and you don't OWN IT then its not YOUR HOUSE and its not ethical to do an extraction. . . . Right? He's 18. He's a big boy. If he feels its worth risking being kicked out who the hell am I to judge him he asked if there was a stealthy way to extract dmt. Not your moral values.

It's not about my moral values and no, you don't have to own it (when you rent a house, you agree on the lease that you will be biting the bullet for any and all legal ramifications). It's about the fact that if he gets in legal trouble, it doesn't matter that he's a "big boy". As the property is his mother's, she will be the one held accountable and she will be the one who risks losing her house. How is this not getting through to you? It's really not a hard concept to understand. It has nothing to do with morals or ethics, despite the fact that it is immoral and unethical to engage in activities contrary to the will of the property owner, it has everything to do with the legal ramifications that stem from whose name is on the lease, mortgage, or deed. The fact that he's 18 doesn't mean anything other than that he will be tried as an adult should something happen. That does absolutely nothing to help out his mother who just lost her house due to his actions. Got it?

I get that YOUR OPINION is that he shouldn't. Mine is its up to him to weigh the risks off his actions. Its exactly the same as a landlord tenant situation. The average lease states any actions by the tenant to grow make or sell an illegal substance shall be evicted. So its the same situation and you lose the roof over your head. His mom has plausable deniability. I highly doubt she would lose her house. I still love you Snozz but at the end of the day both of us are just stating our opinions, not fact. Got it?

yes they are right don't do this in your parents house. What I suggest doing is finding a spot in the woods or some where you can be away from scocioty. I have done this and I own my own home due to that if my house was seized my wife and child would be on the streets. My wife dose not like me to extract or " maunfacture". So I have made a stealth tek just for you although I do think that you should wait till you have your own place and know and understand why you should not do this with out the owner of the proportys consent.
Electrolunchbox's Stealth TEK
1 find a place to be isolated and can hide your stuff from any one seeing it

acquire the following:
Cooler (to simulate a freezer)
Dry ice to keep your cooler in freezing condition) be safe with drye ice can get really bad burns if touched so I uses tongs and cardboard to keep from contact.
Pyrex flat baking glassware with a lid1
2 quart HDPE jugs bigger is use full if doing more than 200g of mhrb
Lye (home depot in the plumming section as 100% sodium hydroxide)
VM&P naptha( same store next to the paint thiner)
Xylene this is optional if you want jungle but you cannot freeze percipitate it and takes a while to evap but it's very rewarding
a mason jar (large enough to soak your mhrb in vinager for a few days leaving room to agitate it

the extraction process:
1 soak your mhrb in the mason jar with 400ml per every 100g of mimosa, shake shake shake (the longer it sits the better)
2 base your water (I don't bother to use ph papers or scales) I
how ever like to mix ¼ of a cup of lye into a cup of water.
3 after the water is based and lye is compleetly dissolved pour
your vinager mimosa into the jug¹
4 pour in enough based water to turn it jet black. Wite steaks are good to see.
5 after it setles pour in some naptha² and swirl every time the they layers sep do this a few times³
6 when it finnaly seperates take your pyrex pan and set the jug
or hold it at an angle and squeeze to push the top layer off becarefull to make sure you A. Removed any lable B. Don't get any black liquid into the tray.
7. Repeate step 6 but keep it mixxing longer each pull. Example first pull about 20 min, Second pull about a hour. Third pull 3
hours and a fourth pull over night.
8 put your dry ice in th cooler(rember to not touch it right safety
first!)
I put it in a shoe box with the block of ice not being to bid but
some room in the shoe box is good.
9 set the tray either next to or on the cardbord box put the lid on the tray so any water can get into the naptha.
10 let your crystals form check back in a day and after pour off
your naptha and let the xtals dry off the excess naptha.
11 use a razor or spoon to scrape your spice and enjoy


Now a few tings that would make this better
¹ doing an acid boild and straning and repeat after boil down you mimosa tea into an amount that is easer to work with.
² warming up your naptha by setting in the sun or keeping in hot water. Also if you do a hot water bath for the entierity of the pulls. I know that your thinking that you should start a fire to boil but I suggest using a crockpot that you can use a battery that would aloww you to plug into.
³ keep your hug in the hot water bath while you do your pulls makes a huge differance!

any questions feel free to pm me will load up picture when I figure out how!
be safe and show no onw what your doing even if your best freinds. Don't be cool and brag about it either I would hate to hear that you got your self into a jam. If one other person know what your doing then that is too many!!!

god speed

Great idea to use dry ice for a makeshift freezer. Do be careful with it.

Indeed, it wouldn't be fact until that specific case was set in motion. My point is that, should it come to that, it's better to be 100% safe (i.e. in line with the owner of the house's request). I hear what you are saying. I am saying that the Nexus would not condone such actions (not to sound like a pompous ass )

No. Its not the same situation because its not just him that is losing the house, its her! If the actions only concerned him, then I agree with you. But since the risks are VERY strong to someone else, its not fair. With the landlord example, only the person renting would potentially be evicted, but with this situation, its his parents on the line.

I still dont understand how you cannot get it. While you 'highly doubt' she would lose her house, I think your own doubts are not good enough to risk the life and home of someone's innocent parents, and its quite irresponsible advice to give here in the nexus IMO.

Did you check the BBB story and the properties seizure WITHOUT ANY RELATION? Such as for example the owner's son's saving accounts?! The feds can seize any and all properties that for the slightest reason may have had something to do with something as drug manufacture. Innocent till proven guilty? No, with assets forfeiture, you're guilty until you prove yourself innocent

IF you can get the possessions back, it will be at huge legal costs, years of justice fighting and a lot of (completely unfair, in the parents case) moral sufferings of all kinds. Imagine how the life of a respectable citizen would be ruined in all social and professional relationships would be damaged if unknowingly her son had manufactured drugs under her roof, got caught, house was seized. Even if after long she could eventually prove it wasnt her or her son confessed, can you even begin to picture all the un-curable problems that would be unfairly generated to her and possibly other people from the family?

We at the nexus are absolutely strong against these kind of selfish dangerous actions and want to firmly make this point clear.

Lol its not that I dont get your guys point. I agree with it in my second post. But if someone is going to do it anyway I think its better if they do it with any knowledge we can give them to lessen the risk he's taking on behalf of himself and his family.

Just to clear things up, things work very differently in Poland. It is not like the UK and America where you are a criminal if someone conducts illegal activities in your house, it only becomes so if they can prove you were a part of the activities.

There is no risk of anyone being caught here either, as we live outside of our town in a remote area. I'm a very paranoid person so if there was even the slightest risk I would never consider it in the first place, to give you an idea of what I mean, I haven't smoked Cannabis in 6 months just because the laws against it are very harsh here - and while it's a minimal chance I'd get caught, I don't take risks like that, waiting until I get my own place/my parents agree with my smoking at home.

So as I said the issue for me is just avoiding my mum finding out, as she has a very ignorant view of psychedelics and drugs in general, condoning alcohol and nicotine but attacking anything else. In reality, doing it at home would be far safer since any of the places I could do it outside of the home *are* near to other houses and people, meaning there *is* a risk of getting caught. However if I can find a relatively good hiding place for the equipment in the nearby woods then that'd work pretty well, as while there'd be a small risk of being caught - it's a risk I'm willing to take, and it would definitely remove any worries about my mum finding my equipment etc.

Also..



Well said, it's good to hear someone agrees with me on this. It scares me how many people grow weed/shrooms/other psychoactives, or extract/synthesize drugs and tell absolutely everyone they know, without thinking about the repercussions.

Anyway thanks for the advice.

Edit: Apologies if there's any broken English or if I said anything outright stupid, I'm still reintegrating after a very large dose of 4-AcO-DMT last night. My head is a puddle of mush hah.