I wouldnt mind if you quoted me

True I guess. I have been doing it the way I have been as it is the cheapest way possible for me to try it, so I wasn't that bothered with using up all my £10 worth of MHRB on these attempts.

A chemical tek is way more expensive which put me off. (At least when you consider the initial outlay for equipment and chemicals etc compared with the very basic few things you need for Ayahuasca)

The experience of ayahuasca is radically different from smoked spice. The price tag should in no way, shape, or form dictate which route you choose to go. These are medicines that deserve respect and preparation. I hope you give some thought as to what your intentions are before going with ayahuasca over dmt because it's a cheaper way to "get high" off of dmt.

Hey guys - loving the things I've learnt here - awesome to be able to create my own crystals, with some really good teks.

I have had my best yield so far I do believe (previous yields went straight to the pipe, I have no scales of my own anymore), with the most slapdash tek I've done yet too - I didn't measure out anything except 2 litres of water.

I put in one cup of lye, and just over a cup of MHRB, left the solution for an hour after turning it over and over, then did 2 pulls within about an hour.

I then did a cold cycle (fridge to freezer) for about 10 hours, and watched as so much DMT was crashing out, more than I'd seen on any of my weighed first extractions - and big crystals accumulating on the bottom, really thick ones.

So they were left in the freezer for about 12 hours, and about 20 mins ago I decanted carefully all the solvent from 3 jars into one tall one to see if I can precipitate even more spice.

The 3 jars I have dripped over the tall jar for a few minutes each, then stuck them upside down back in the freezer to make sure all hte naptha drains out.

Now what?!?!How will I now when they're ready?!? I want to know if an hour or 2 should suffice for gravity to do it's job, so then can take the jars out the freezer and leave the trace amounts to evaporate off by my window.

I know it's probably common sense, but I'd just lke a lil input. I've been reading up a lot in the forums over the past few weeks, and am eager to try something other than STB after I'm through with this kilo, putting the end product in vials on my shelf.

I have decided to go the d-limonene route, maybe.

Anyways, thanks for considering this - I open the floor - cheers

I'm don't like smoking anything so ayahuasca or oral DMT is what i'm after. ayahuasca being the cheaper so it of course made sense to try before an extraction, which I would prefer to have.

I'm well aware of the difference when smoked compared with oral DMT.

Well this is what I ended up with after 3 pulls, not the biggest yield ever but its my first ever extraction and I used Citrus Sinensis oil rather than d-Limonene, simply ordered the wrong thing, seems to have worked out ok though.

Had some trouble with emulsions forming during extraction though, maybe due to the Citrus Sinensis oil but heating it up seemed to help quite abit at seperating.

Here I have 816mg on the scales and also around 50-100mg of powdered mescaline accetate from the third pull.

Hi guys, I was not satisfied with my previous extractions and now I've got pure NaOh and microscales, so now, I'm fully armed and ready to battle
And now I thought what if I shall do 70% acetone solvent pulls instead of naphta in STB tek? I know I couldn't get crystalls out but the goo\powder will be good though. Will it work? Or acetone will dissolve other crap from mimosa soup?

research more please. acetone mixes with water, it wouldnt form a separate layer, so it wont work at all

Thx again. I think this time I'll try A\B and STB parallel extraction and see what is the best.

if you do that, dont forget to try to keep all of the other variables (pull size, amount of pulls, time of pull mixing, etc) exactly the same for it to be a valid comparison. If you can take pictures and later post for us, that would be very appreciated. Otherwise just telling us the results is fine too. Side-by-side tests are always very important to increase our knowledge

Good luck!

what is the safest way to extract dmt? leaving as little solvents behind as possible, also easiest plant to obtain with the most dmt in michigan? sorry if this question is somewhere else if so link me >_< SWIM will be researching techs all night and plants so thought id get started here

People spend many weeks/months (or years) researching this. Its a very important deep thing to extract and take these substances, not something that you decide overnight. So if someone comes here and says they researched for one night and asks questions like 'what is the easiest safest best way for most dmt' kind of questions, then it doesnt sound too good, does it? We cant spoonfeed you information (no offense meant). Please look further. Here's a good start.

SWIM wants to transcend the ego and the body and SWIM think dmt might help with this.

SWIM don't know if this has a name but it's basically layzyman's tek i guess.
But it happens that SWIM has easier access to heptane of higher quality than the naptha(zippo brand lighter fuel).
SWIM also wants to do freeze precipitation. SWIM thinks it will be easier.
Should SWIM heat the NaOH/MHRB mixture before the first pull?
Beacause as he understands it doing it with cold water will give purer crystals, and higher temp means higher saturation in the heptane.
Can't he do several pulls with cold water?



Thanks

yep he can. Just dont throw the mimosa away till final yield as achieved becuase if is low yield, then you know there is more pulls to be done

Hello,
I've done some extractions and finally successfuly get proper crystalls! A\B tek works just great, very clean and beautiful yeld. I've used A\B and take a cup with naphta to the dark place for several days. And then I was very surprised when I looked at the cup with naphta - there was huge spiky crystalls, almost transparent in color and above 1cm in size.

I've notice strange thing: When I pull out and clean naphta it became transparent, but when I blowing into the jug with naphta, a white clouds starts to appear, what is that? DMT? Looks like it's droping off or became insoluable here, after few seconds clouds are dissapering again. I think it maybe usefull trick for extraction, huh?

So I've just done the Lazy Man's Tek and now have a jar full of black liquid in my bathtub.
My question is, how am I supposed to get the naphta (that is the top layer?) onto a plate or similar?
When I tried to pour the liquid onto a plate, everything (including the black liquid) went to the plate.

you haven't a turkey baster you could try with a syringe or holing your container of solution or use a tube to siphonate down naphta or polar layer

FAQ

This is harder and takes longer than swim thought
Swim is pissed and is not listening to reason
I hope
Swim doesn't go and do something stupid

First swim tried the good ol ab w lye n naptha
Using 160g mhrb following the tek exactly except swim reduced the aqueous volume to much and burnt a little before adding lye
Not to many xtals after three pulls prob half g by eye
Swim wonders why
Can aqueous volume be reduced too much?
Maybe the final mix was not agitated enough

The main problem is recovering the x tals after freeze
The container was left to fully dry in the sun after being thoroughly poured off and since it is super humid here large amounts of condensation occured and swims precious spice is redisolved in water and amlil naptha

Swim is also cooking a littlle over a
Lb mhrb at the moment and plans to reduce much farther than the tek calls for to fit in his wine jug. Oh and lb can't be decanted over night still looks like reddish chocolate milk. If it doesn't clear soon it's going through a tshirt.

all right, the redisolved xtals were evaporated as best as possible then redisolved in hot 1/2 naptha 1/2 basic solution and stirred around
hopefully any remaining water went into the basic solution and any spice went into napptha
the basic solution was pulled out from under the naptha and added back to the total volume.
the total volume was reheated in a crock and then poured into jug and another pull was done with 200 ml to make sure as much as possible of the remaining spice is pulled
the 200 ml was reduced to 30 ml using a clean and dry crock.
this was added to the naptha that the xtals were redisolved in to make 90 ml
5 hours of freezing temps later there are way less xtals than before like 1/4th!
what gives?

Swim doesn't care about this extraction so much but he has done two boils on 540 g mhrb of 4 liters each and has reduced the first boil to 2 liters
the second boil is still in the fridge because it still looks like red choco milk
Swim would like some advice before proceeding
Does the volume of water per amount of mhrb matter alot?
How much can swim reduce the volume after straining before yeild suffers? ( it would be nice if it fit in the wine jug instead of trying to shake a 5 gal carboy w/ no top!)
will the cloudy liquid cause emulsions if it is strained through a t-shirt?