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nabster98
#1 Posted : 8/12/2010 4:20:33 AM
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Ive experienced Salvia multiple times from fresh leaf to 80x. Ive found that with salvia it is extremely easy to breakthrough with, but for me the trip is always the same. Im always seeing life through the same perspective, the same feelings, and it basically feels like the same exact thing beside the setting. Because of this, Ive felt salvia has little to offer and is pretty limited. The hallucinations are not real like they are on DMT. Everything looks the same, its only my mind on the inside that is changing the way i perceive it. What would you recommend in order for this to change, or is this a commonly agreed upon statement?
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#2 Posted : 8/12/2010 5:46:36 AM

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higher doses. For me lower doses are always the same place(although those can seem like a full dose)..a full breakthrough though will take me to the same worlds sometimes but often really different ones..

I also dont find the visions/hallucinations to not be very real, quite the opposite actaully. With salvia they get so real that my old life is 100% forgotten and I am become convinced that what I am experienced is my reality.
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#3 Posted : 8/12/2010 9:55:38 AM

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fractal enchantment wrote:
higher doses. For me lower doses are always the same place(although those can seem like a full dose)..a full breakthrough though will take me to the same worlds sometimes but often really different ones..

I also dont find the visions/hallucinations to not be very real, quite the opposite actaully. With salvia they get so real that my old life is 100% forgotten and I am become convinced that what I am experienced is my reality.


And even, with high doses of salvia, I'm chocked I'm back to my "current life situation" after what I've undertake.
It usually feel like I've quit "this world" for good and won't be able able to come back.
It always feel like being instantly sucked in a parallel unviverse.
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#4 Posted : 8/12/2010 9:58:10 AM

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LOw doses on the other hand lead me to the same laws of physics. The three dimensional room isn't anymore and I feel some multisensual distortion. Plus some sort of synchronicity. Apparently, I've been told by my GF I happened to speak with a freaky voice.. Brrrr..
I do only low doses with spice now.
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#5 Posted : 8/12/2010 9:22:37 PM

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My salvia experiences tend to follow “themes”. For a while, every experience involved me turning into an inanimate object – usually a tent or awning of some sort. Then there were many experiences where I was pulled down roads or streets. Lately, I’ve been flipping through the pages of the parallel reality book.

I’m sure that after some time, the theme of your journeys will change.

The visuals are every bit as real with salvia as they are with DMT. Maybe not quite as vivid or colorful, but every bit as real. And if ego loss is what you’re aiming for, then salvia will get you there much more reliably than DMT.

As others have already said, your dose may be a bit too low. (Not necessarily a bad thing, considering how irresponsible many users of salvia seem to be.) Increase your dose in a responsible manner, and you might change your opinion of salvia.
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nabster98
#6 Posted : 8/14/2010 5:57:29 PM
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well ill definitely experiment a little more but ive done it over 20 times, each time was the exact same thing basically with little revamped parts. I must also note that i have a very high tolerance to psychedelics. 2 grams of shrooms does basically nothing for me, ive done most things out there and i practice meditation which makes directing these substances even easier
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