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Now I know the general procedure followed is to boil water and remove it from heat and place the solvent in a jar in the hot water bath. I was curious as to what the danger is of using an electric glasstop stove to directly heat the solvent? In lab we always use flameless heat sources because of the flammability danger but we will usually directly heat solvents even to boiling using a hot plate. So are we just overly cautious when it comes to home cookin?
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SWIM managed to ignite naphtha with a hand mixer and almost burn down his basement. Earlier, he managed to ignite some naphtha while trying to evaporate it in an electric oven. The oven managed to keep the flames from spreading, but the smoke was toxic and awful. Conclusion: don't mess around with flammable solvents.
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How do you ignite it with a hand mixer?  And I can totally see it igniting in an oven. Enclosed space + heat from all sides = flame on! I'm not sure how this applies to heating it from the bottom on an electric stove...but better safe than sorry I suppose.
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Heat it on a water bath with good ventillation. Eg heat a pot of water, which heats your vessel of solvent. Beware a lot of electric hotplates spark and can ignite vapors. You can hear these plates arc/click and see the flash underneath.
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Ever heard of flash boiling? (when a liquid is rapidly forced into its vapor state) I thought not.. Try putting water in a jar and heating it up on your electric stove, Youll see what happens pretty fast. You so dont want naptha to boil everywhere. Just stick to the "overly" safe method. Its proven, it works, it works well. -gir Lets go extract something together  house wrote:19:10:05 โนhouseโบ mama aya gave me lego man eye healers Smoke Spice, NOWGir likes to tell lies, and the truth, but gir cant even tell the difference between them... http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.phpTHIS IS THE VENUS PROJECT.
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have a glass top electric stove - am going to be using it for evaporation in a bit, used it earlier but it smells too much and it's a communal kitchen...waiting til everyone goes to sleep. Will be creating a water bath, not directly heating a naptha container. I look into the world, wherein there shines the sun...
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adorno wrote: Earlier, he managed to ignite some naphtha while trying to evaporate it in an electric oven. How can i not call swim an idiot here... i dont like being mean but... come on! โRight here and now, one quanta away, there is raging a universe of active intelligence that is transhuman, hyperdimensional, and extremely alien... What is driving religious feeling today is a wish for contact with this other universe.โ โ Terence McKenna
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^ mmm almost as much as someone suggesting it be put in the microwave... I look into the world, wherein there shines the sun...
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Hope you've still got eyebrows jblazing ... you know it's really not that hard just to let it evaporate at room temperature. It really only takes a few hours with enough surface area.
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jblazingnataraja wrote:^ mmm almost as much as someone suggesting it be put in the microwave... have seen xylene and tolulene zapped to remove emulsions in cacti extractions many, many times
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^ really?? I'm sure most of the time it could go OK, but what about the exception? I'd rather not risk it. KinkyJohn (love the name hehe) - yo, I would never use a microwave, glasstop hob is the furthest I would go to heating solvents - man it took a while though... I look into the world, wherein there shines the sun...
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xtechre, you're right, SWIM was an idiot, you absolutely have to respect these chemicals... He is embarrassed to even admit on here as such stupid stuff is obviously exactly what any serious kitchen chemist warns against... I only mention it, lest anyone ever forget, flammable solvents are flammable.
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dg wrote:jblazingnataraja wrote:^ mmm almost as much as someone suggesting it be put in the microwave... have seen xylene and tolulene zapped to remove emulsions in cacti extractions many, many times not a good method for heating the solvent, though. microwaves are tuned for vibrational excitation of compounds with dipole moments, namely water. most nonpolars have no strong dipole interactions. it's much better to heat the water bath in the microwave, then put the solvent in "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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I have found that the solvents with high vapor pressure and volatility are to be respected as well even when warmed only using hot water. If in a closed container pressure can build fast and shatter separation funnels or other containers. I once was using 35/60 petroleum ether in an extraction and fortunately it only blew the stopper out of my separation funnel. The stopper flew 3 feet into the air and loudly crashed into the sink. Because it was really quiet at 3AM in my house, it scared the crap out of me. Fortunately there was no breakage of my glassware. Everything mentioned herein has been deemed by our staff of expert psychiatrists to be the delusional rantings of a madman who has been treated with Thorazine who is hospitalized within the confines of our locked facility. This patient sometimes requires the application of 6 point leather restraints and electrodes at the temples to break his delusions. Therefore, take everything mentioned above with a grain of salt...
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*keeps the ground glass stoppers on very loose when in a hot water bath, or at an angle when letting sit overnight* "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah "Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
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benzyme wrote:dg wrote:jblazingnataraja wrote:^ mmm almost as much as someone suggesting it be put in the microwave... have seen xylene and tolulene zapped to remove emulsions in cacti extractions many, many times not a good method for heating the solvent, though. microwaves are tuned for vibrational excitation of compounds with dipole moments, namely water. most nonpolars have no strong dipole interactions. it's much better to heat the water bath in the microwave, then put the solvent in no its not good for heating, which is why i said it had been used to clear emulsions,
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I have my glass of solvent in a pot with hot water on the ceramic hotplate, when the glass starts to rumble because of the boiling water i move from plate and then reapply the pot to the plate until boiling occurs again. When the glass is in the pot and on the hotplate i have glass covered with paper towel and i press the glass gently down so as to stop the rumbling of the glass. Do this a few times over maybe 5- 10 minutes and your naptha will be as hot as you want it.
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I use a mini heater, used to heat rooms, and sit my jars a foot away from it. It heats them perfectly. "I am cursed by the blossoming knowledge of my feminine ideal and she looks suspiciously like you."
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