SWIM's amputated leg was wondering if it would be possible to vape spice wrapped in weed,
just like changa or using lettuce/ash, but dusted onto the buds..
He's asking because his jet lighter has broken and he doesn't want to scorch the spice with a normal lighter.
His leg also has a bong, if that helps?

Sorry if this has been posted somewhere else, I searched for cannabis/dmt related things but nothing of use came up,
would appreciate a link if possible.

Peace.

Isn't "changa" supposed to be a smokable mixture of DMT and a MAOI (Cappi)?
I thought Cannabis + DMT is just called enhanced leaf?

My bad, guess I should educate myself more,
Either way, will it work?

Yeah, it would absolutely work! Not many prefer to use cannabis though, as it tends to cloud the experience of DMT. Here's a thread on the exact question you asked. Personally I don't enjoy the combo, but there's plenty of other herbs you can infuse with DMT!

Caapi leaves - which is the only true changa - and mixes with other hamala-alkaloids is my favorite, but absolutely any smokeable herb may be infused with DMT. I would use something that don't cloud the experience, i.e. not a sedative. Take a look at this thread for some ideas on what herbs you may use.

Best of luck!

you knew what he meant

Can work with any leaf. Sandwich method anyway. Would be better if you made changa/enhanced leaf however just beacuse i find its alot harder to really burn with it. Just be careful with ur lighter

I almost always use a standard flint. People say use an electric but in my experience i never found that much of a change when i switched. but thats just me

I've never smoked Changa... sorry... I have a friend that does smoke DMT + Cannabis... it work (even in joints)... but:

1) It's not really the way to smoke DMT (if you want a strong experience)... and...

2) Some people say Cannabis tends to cloud and diminish the effects of the DMT.


I'm pretty sure that DMT + Cannabis is nothing in comparison with DMT + Cappi.


Also, I'm less than a noob.

Well yeah, you are totally correct, but isn't it weird to call cannabis for "enhanced leaf"? After all it's not a leaf but rather a flower...

I really did not like my enhanced cannabis..so much so that I never even finished it, I still have the last bit from last year..I wont touch it..the 2 just dont go well together for me. I dont like to smoke cannabis often anymore though..or with any tryptamines or phens..but when i made that enhanced cannabis I was smoking every day and I still didnt like it one bit. The main peak was the same..but the aferglow was more like an after-sketchout period for an hour with a mental fog where there is usually lots of clarity after DMT.

Okay, well I'll give it a try an see what I think, may as well...
I've got half a gram left so i'll try vaping some too, (never used a normal lighter so it may take some doing).

Next time I'll be sure to extract loads of spice and make changa also.
Thanks everyone.
Peace

I'll offer a dissenting opinion that cannabis and DMT can go well together, if the amount of DMT is low. It essentially gives some vibrance and colour to a regular cannabis high.

But then again, I like being stoned.

I was always very against the idea of using DMT with cannabis. Mainly because under the influence of cannabis, the very thought of DMT gave me crazy anxiety. However I have now found that if I'm lightly under the influence of cannabis and have about 10mg DMT, I can have the most profoundly relaxing journey where I slowly walk in my mind and explore a world not so different to our own.

I wouldn't launch on a 1:1 Dmt to weed though. Caapi's just so much more suitable for the job.

Ive made some enhanced bud in the past, it was ok, nothing to write home about though.

I would think that there would be some spice burned if the bud is just coated by the spice. When you do get around to smoking this blend, just remember to hit it slowly.

Bufo hash on the other hand is an amazing idea

Ahh!!! I've been wanting to try bufo for a while now.
Next time I get paid I'm going to give SWIM's amputated leg x amount of money to buy necessary 'ingredients' and he said he'd give me all of the bufotenine back for experimentation.
Can't wait.

And as for the enhanced leaf, I'll bear in mind the dosage, thanks guys.

I need 100mg of bufo in a spliff to get anything from it, which is damned expensive to be honest, but if you smoke some bufo enough to get slight OEV's then hit some good changa... Well be prepared for a species transplant

But back to the point. To me the bufo head space complements cannabis quite well. It seems to make it more interesting in a way as I find bufo by itself a little bit vanilla. For example on DMT you can see a boring old square and proclaim it as your god and saviour on site. With bufo, I can see the most amazing visuals you could imagine and be like "...s'alright" But when you're a little stoned, bufo really brings out those partial CEV's you get in the cannabis headspace.

hmmm..seems I should get some cannabis then...

Soulfood, do you purify your bufotenne to white xtals? and if so, do you still get nausea and constriction?

They're still a little amber. I don't really notice any vasoconstriction, but I still get the onset nausea and the tingle in my head. I'm pretty sure that's just the bufotenine though. It doesn't last so long so I don't see it as a concern.

In order to get similar effects to changa from cannabis and spice, I find the best way is to roll a joint that is packed with/sprinkled with dmt. The way I do it is to make a rectangle of ground up weed on a rolling paper and lay a line of 150mg - 300mg of dmt along the center of the weed. Then I rol the whole thing up so that there is a dmt core to my joint. Then I just puff away and find it very similar to changa/enhanced leaf. 150-200mg is ideal for one or two people. 200-300 is good for two or three people, you can do four with it, but it's a bit of a stretch and you only get one venture out. With four people you reallyneed between 300 and 400mg to allow everyone to go out and stay out for any menaingful length of time.