The further one ventures into hyperspace, the more evident this fact becomes. There is no ultimate truth, at least not in the absolute sense we desire it to be.

That being said, I do believe psychadelics have given me answers, but they pertain only to me in my currently finite perspective. They apply to no one else, and perhaps apply to no other time than the present.


Well said.

Very well put gibran2, I completely agree. I'd like to share a quote from Waking Life that I feel is very similar to this and exemplifies many of my feelings towards the molecule.

Very well said.

This video is helpful for me to cope with the new awareness:

The Empathic Civilisation (RSAanimate)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7AWnfFRc7g

Very noble of you.
And very much inline whith what cellux has to say about it:



There might not be any absolute, constant truth for us to understand, as we are humans on earth now. But a relative, ever growing 'truth' can be useful still, as the RSA video points out. Im thinking it is all we will ever have, since we are not able as a species to grasp/understand 'all at once'.

The possibility of 'smurfs', or 'santa claus is real' can be considered 'less usefull' or at least 'less interesting' to be explored in depth. The perennial philosophy on the other hand is much more interesting when it comes to pratical use and evolving as a species on earth, in a cosmos.

SWIM has found his way back to normal and has become a better human. The whole experience was a hard core upgrade!
SWIM shares his story with the community to help others to go through their experience easier.


1st July: SWIM did his most horrifying DMT experience after many great breakthroughs and visitations in hyperspace worlds. He thought that hyperspace teachers punished him for coming back to soon (SWIM had an agreement with himself to not trip anymore till a specific date he chose).

2nd July: SWIM feels confusion and is unsure what he has experienced. SWIM started even to assume that hyperspace beings took him to their dimension. And to make the transition more pleasant, they have copied the physical reality of SWIM from his own memory. A theory started to grow that SWIM has died in his world and now lives in another with the illusion that this was just a DMT trip.

3rd July: SWIM feels high like on ecstasy. He feels like everything is possible for him. He feels like his whole life was a dream and now the dream has become lucid. He started a flirt with a beautiful girl in a train full of people. Before the trip this would cost much of effort for SWIM because he would worry much about judgment of other people around him.

4th July: SWIM gets an illusion that he has figured it out. He is God having multiple dreams at the same time in the world he created himself. He is just an observer of himself.

5th July: SWIM feels sure to have discovered the ultimate truth. He decides to share this truth with the community.

6th July: SWIM wakes up early at night depressive. All his beliefs seem to be gone. He cannot grasp on any belief! As soon as he decides to believe something he literally witnesses his brain reinforcing that belief, offering more supporting arguments. If SWIM believes he is in the wrong world, this belief is reinforced. If SWIM believes that he is dreaming, that is reinforced too. One cannot imagine how horrifying this experience is just by reading it! SWIM must think of the film Vanilla Sky where Cruse discovers that he was dreaming all the time and can end the dream by jumping from the roof. This theory gets reinforced and SWIM believed that he can go back to his previous life by committing suicide! This is where it gets really dangerous. At this point it is extremely important to talk to people who will validate you that they are not product of your imagination.

7th July: SWIM still feels strong depression. He threw away DMT and everything connected to it. He still experiences himself as God and one with everything and very alone! He feels that whatever he wants he can achieve. But he is completely alone. There is no one who will appreciate his achievements. When he talks to other people, he feels like talking to himself in the most literal sense, and this is a horrifying experience! It gets worse when SWIM realizes that he might never get back to his previous state of awareness. A theory arises that the only solution is to start a new life which allows SWIM to forget what he knows (suicidal thoughts again). However, SWIM does not feel completed with his story. He also do not want to risk killing himself, since there are many people who love him and will miss him (while still thinking that he might be in some wrong version of reality or parallel universe). He starts to doubt the reality of his experience and diagnoses drug psychosis. He visits a psychiatrist who demonstrates ignorance and complete disinterest on the horrible condition of SWIM. He listened and tried to apply some scientific theory he has learnt. This was not helpful at all, even worse, SWIM understood at this point that even a professional cannot help him and he must deal with his awareness completely alone!

During this depressive state, SWIM felt like the Devil offered him a choice to come to another dimension (or to stay there, because he is already in that other dimension), where he could get everything he wanted immediately. SWIM declined. The Devil declined the decline of SWIM and offered a deal: SWIM must offer a sacrifice worth enough to put SWIM back into his previous condition. By the way, SWIM is stunned by the reality of the concept of the Devil he knows from films but never thought that there is some reality to it. At first, SWIM thought that he must offer a sacrifice and searched eagerly for an offer. But then he stopped and felt that he is not obligated to do any deals like others do in films. He boldly told the Devil to fuck off! (These are all thought processes in SWIM’s head.)

8th July: SWIM informs the forum about his condition. Thanks a lot for the supporting private messages he has received! SWIM is not religious but decides to pray to Jesus and ask him for forgiveness. A new theory: Satan is the full awareness. The whole story about Satan is a trick to prevent humans from getting the full awareness. That is why religious people thought in ancient times that any scientific discovery, like Earth is a sphere, is evil. In our time, religious people will probably tell you that drugs in general are evil and a creation of Satan to seduce humans. SWIM asks for forgiveness, asks to forget. SWIM cries a lot. SWIM tells his parents how much he loves them (they do not know what was going on). SWIM builds a theory that Bible is there to confuse people in such a way that they never discover truth. Life is a mystery and should be enjoyed, not decrypted. Some doors should not be opened.

Past meridian SWIM started to feel high, very similar to an ecstasy high. He started to become anxious that he might burn his chemicals in the brain responsible for feeling happy and never feel happy again. This fear is reinforced and SWIM feels depression and high at the same time which was very unpleasant.

9th July: After reading the Bible and praying to his subconscious mind to give him a solution, he finally receives it. This is the key and a very important realization: We are perspectives, points of views! Every human is a perspective consisting not only of his senses, but also his story and a belief system that filters the input from his senses. Thus, SWIM is not God and thus not alone. What he experienced is a perspective which might be called God perspective, but SWIM doubts that. It was rather the perspective of his higher mind, or at best the perspective of the human collective consciousness. This is so liberating! SWIM has deleted many of his written goals about big money because this has become irrelevant. SWIM recognized that he had and has always enough! SWIM recognized how great the idea of imperfection is, how boring life experience would be if he was perfect. SWIM started to enjoy failures, as they assured him that he is in the right world, not in his lucid dream where everything happens according to his will. SWIM enjoys the moment of now more now. He still feels "high", he feels a light in his chest. He is familiar with the idea of chakra points; may be his heart chakra opened. SWIM does not want to be super human or better than others. He embraces his imperfections and is glad to not be able to do everything and not to get everything he wants.


Conclusion

After nine days of up and down, SWIM came back to his more or less normal life. He became definitely a better more loving person, more aware of his environment and people surrounding him. He understood that while there is some objectivity to our physical reality, our perception of it is subjective, and every perspective has to be honored and respected.

In contradiction to the topic title:
There is no ultimate truth!
There are perspectives and ideas. There is a lot of subjectivity to any truth.

Often enough, SWIM attempted to enlighten other people, especially his friends and relatives, by telling them his truth as it was the truth. He wanted to raise their consciousness. Now he understands experientially that this was a wrong behavior, as every perspective and consciousness level has to be respected.

Life is a mystery. It is not to be figured out but to be enjoyed.


Judgment Day Theory

There is a theory that approaching 2012, the energy field of the Earth will raise, causing pineal gland in the brain to produce DMT in an awakened state. If this theory is true, we will have mass psychosis on the planet! Many people are completely unprepared for that! Just imagine a person who has amassed material riches all his life rubbing other people experiences his oneness with these people, he experiences the truth that we are one entity, that he has done bad not to others but to himself. And the worst of all, no one can explain to him what he is experiencing! He has to deal with that on his own! Looks like the true judgment day to SWIM.

I'm so glad to hear that. This was a great forward leap for you, I'm sure.



Precisely what I believed after my first (LSD) trip. I just accepted that this is so and tried to recreate the new world in the best possible way. For example, instead of getting lost in paranoia, the first thing I did was to get a shower. Then I went out to the morning garden bare-foot and picked some fruits from the apple tree. All the while immersed in the meaning of it all, marveling at the depth in symbolic meaning of *every act we ever do*.



That's sweet. Very sweet. What a learning experience.

As soon as they realize what psychedelic drugs are really about (now they are completely ignorant so they don't care), they will fight it tooth and nail.

Movie recommendation: Serial Experiments: Lain (anime series).

I prefer the following story: First it was clean and true, then came the bad people who contaminated it (whatever that means), therefore spreading confusion. But it turns out, that the confusion this generated was necessary for people to feel there is a need to put things back to order again, and therefore the contamination was an indirect cause of the ascension. The word outside was taken away, so that the light inside can be found (and from that, a new word emanated - if necessary).

This is how I feel when I take MDMA. Makes enjoying it a bit difficult. So ambivalent.

The joy of limitations... I'm glad you learned to appreciate this. You went really far with this!

An extra idea: now that you see that, you may also appreciate this saying of the Buddha that "Absolute Reality is that only Subjective Reality exists."

And that being 100% enlightened may mean to 100% fulfill one's own parcel of the whole. Being 100% in ones subjective version of the world.

And leave that "final unity" to the grace of God.

Let me remark here, that if you really respect every point of view then you should also respect if somebody finds it necessary to "enlighten" others... Which means you can actually forgive your old self. I found that the key is understanding. If one understands that each of us is one perspective from *all* the possible perspectives (not just the good ones), then it's much easier to be compassionate.

In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of Karma.

I don't believe that will happen at all, but do you really think it would cause mass psychosis if it did? It seems like most people who do dmt realizes truths they never thought possible, and yet in short time, most seem to undeniably come out better on the other side. Like you did. If there was some big dmt surge, it would probably be the biggest emotional outburst the world has ever seen.

Looks like we got some Christianity conversions going on in the nexus.

I think that DMT should serve to simply increase ones humility by showing the user that there is SO SO much that they cannot conceive of.We may be the brightest life-form here by a good stretch but in the overall scheme of things, this cannot lead to the conclusion that we are God (and I dont mean that in the literal 'offensive to religious people' sense).

I also believe that this compound MUST be respected for many reasons, not least of which is its capacity to inspire what feel like certainties in the user.There are only 2 certainties that Im aware of:

1.Our limited understanding which can never become all-embracing and comprehensive;

2.Death.

fnog9, I agree with you very strongly. DMT feels too natural, too connected to the Human experience. Additionally, live, seeing as the pineal gland doesn't (can't) produce DMT, this is a pretty far-fetched theory.

Not at all.
Though interesting to see evolution and merging of belief systems.

Most of the discussions here at the nexus do not reach a consensus. The sought for thruth is therefore not black and white.
But our opinions change during these discussions. Even only reading them will change your opinion. The accents will shift, and perhaps new perspectives come into play.

It is not that i am converted to christianity because of good arguments brought up by someone. And it is not that someone will abandon christianity because of good arguments i might bring up, against christianity. Still, in the proces of the discussion we will both change our view on the matter. Just by talking about it. And as a result at least, we understand more of each other and ourselves as humans on earth, which is the common denominator. Which brings us closer together, which is, i hope we can all agree on that, very much necesary in this world of different and conflicting cultures.

Christianity is less black-white as it may seem. One could look at the bigger context where all religions, philosophies, beliefsystems share there part. Here christianity is (just) another voice. One that should be heared and spoken. We dont need to change or convert. But we do need to evolve. And this is more difficult when things are kept in the dark.

So may the light shine upon you

Wakey wakey, rise and shine!
No! Let me go back to sleep!

The ultimate truth SWIM thought to discover along with other fellows who consume DMT and/or create insightful YouTube-Videos turned out to be quite the opposite: the ultimate ignorance. DMT did not show SWIM the ultimate truth but uncovered a belief of him implanted from the outside!


The belief is "You are God". The film "Inception" helped SWIM to recognize this belief as an inception implanted mainly by authors of "The Secret" and "Conversations with God" who teach this truth directly or indirectly! Believers of the "law of attraction" and "you are God" theory are all heading for their worst nightmare! Be patient and at least give yourself a chance to consider an alternate perspective.








Yet another article which points out the satanism behind "The Secret":
http://www.thebereancall.org/node/5571


It is not too late to turn the wheel...