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#1 Posted : 7/12/2010 8:58:51 AM

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THIS... I don't think I will sleep for three days. This will make you instantly sober.

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Aya makes me feel this way, too.

Some days I just want to join Greenpeace. Make people stop the insanity...

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#2 Posted : 7/12/2010 1:23:56 PM
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The oil spill...i just can't believe it.

And above all i can't believe how it's been handled.
How firstly BP has just been dodging all rules, regulations and safety measures. How then, the U.S. government left dealing with the oil spill, to BP. How BP tried to fix the problem with making as little efforts as possible. How then the government and BP didn't coördinate their actions. How this problem still isn't fixed.
 
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#3 Posted : 7/12/2010 2:02:58 PM

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The oil spill...i just can't believe it.

And above all i can't believe how it's been handled.
How firstly BP has just been dodging all rules, regulations and safety measures. How then, the U.S. government left dealing with the oil spill, to BP. How BP tried to fix the problem with making as little efforts as possible. How then the government and BP didn't coördinate their actions. How this problem still isn't fixed.
Yes I agree with you this is an epic disaster that will affect us for many years. I live on the atlantic coast line and businesses are starting to get affected here and its just thd beginning. I just hope this causes a surge in green energy solutions.
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#4 Posted : 7/12/2010 5:44:30 PM

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#5 Posted : 7/19/2010 10:32:40 PM
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Well, they officially have the leak capped. I'm glad they've gotten this accomplished. Of course it should've been fixed months ago, but at least it's capped. Now we have to wait for a while to find out if the pressure has caused leaks elsewhere.

I have a few questions for all of you. Do you think this fix will be what's needed? Do you think the pressure will build up underground and blow out somewhere that will be almost impossible to fix? And who do you think should be held accountable, and what actions should be taken against them?
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#6 Posted : 7/19/2010 10:47:31 PM

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Well, they officially have the leak capped. I'm glad they've gotten this accomplished. Of course it should've been fixed months ago, but at least it's capped.

you can never be sure, though i do sincerely hope that this is the case. they lied before about the amount of oil leakeage. first they said about 10,000 barella per day, then 20, then 50, and then after a long time- 100,000 barells per day. it's probably more. this corporate mindframe just absolutely sickens me. hopefully mother earth will recover..though chances seem bleak for a long period of timeSad
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#7 Posted : 7/19/2010 10:51:29 PM

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biodiesel is the shit.
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#8 Posted : 7/20/2010 6:35:48 PM

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~> Entheogenic rehabilitation center for corporate sociopaths? Razz Can one person ULTIMATELY hold another person accountable, or does true accountability have to come from within?

In the meantime... let's all get ourselves off oil. No consumer product or technology for "an easier lifestyle" is worth this catastrophe.

We need collective effort. We can hold ourselves accountable...

Out of curiosity, what would even happen in the event of being unable to cap a spill? Would it just go until there's nothing left to spill? Shocked
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#9 Posted : 7/20/2010 7:08:53 PM
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This reminds me of a cartoon i saw in a dutch newspaper where one bird says to another:"did you know that, with all the oil spilled in the gulf of mexico, you could drive two hummers for an entire year?"Laughing
 
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#10 Posted : 7/20/2010 7:09:12 PM

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Out of curiosity, what would even happen in the event of being unable to cap a spill? Would it just go until there's nothing left to spill? Shocked

i'm taking a physical geography class right now, and our professor was explaining how the atmospheric debris caused by pollutants (ex. CFC's, Methane, CO2, etc) are increasing at an exponential rate, and cycling through every part of the globe. and there's nothing we can do to prevent the damage that is taking place, and will take place for CENTURIES to come. the best we can do right now is just slow it down, but even that's currently futile since our whole economy is based off these toxic chemicals. So what i'm trying to say here is that atmospheric, and water pollutants will stay with us for atleast a couple hundered years if not more. in addition, waters from every part of the globe inter-mingle at various places, so the spread of these oil toxins are inevitable.
there was a research done in which every subject tested was found to contain toxic chemicals, fuel wastes, and CFC residues in their urine. people living on the opposite side of the globe where rocket fuel wastes could not have gotten within the vicinity of, were found to be affected as well. waters from every part of the globe are found to contain all kinds of toxic chemicals that just keep circulating throughout the water bodies. the earth is very inter-connected, and the causative factors are enormous. Studies also show that these same toxic chemicals are found in almost all of our dietary products, like meat, milk, vegetables, etc.
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#11 Posted : 7/20/2010 7:15:14 PM

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aftertoke wrote:
Well, they officially have the leak capped. I'm glad they've gotten this accomplished. Of course it should've been fixed months ago, but at least it's capped.

you can never be sure, though i do sincerely hope that this is the case. they lied before about the amount of oil leakeage. first they said about 10,000 barella per day, then 20, then 50, and then after a long time- 100,000 barells per day. it's probably more. this corporate mindframe just absolutely sickens me. hopefully mother earth will recover..though chances seem bleak for a long period of timeSad


The cap is now leaking. In addition there is another leak coming from the sea floor a couple miles away that nobody has been talking about until now.

This catastrophe is a wake up call for those who are still sleeping.
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#12 Posted : 7/20/2010 7:20:58 PM
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And it's getting worse.

I must say that obama has not been handling this oil-spill too well. In spite of what he says, he has not been in control. He (quite apropriatelyConfused ) has 'ofshored' this whole fixing business in the traditional american way. I don't see him getting re-elected after this misjudgement (and some others).
 
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#13 Posted : 7/22/2010 11:08:54 PM

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It is not only Obama proceeding badly, all the BP corporates, the head shots, the engies that will not speak out for all the wrong sht that happened there, all of us that still empower the corporate machine...There is a lot there that just stinks but we have t realize that they are fucking nature up because we let them! Wake up ppl! Sad This is one of the times i am really sad to be a part of the human race.
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#14 Posted : 7/22/2010 11:30:25 PM
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It is not only Obama proceeding badly, all the BP corporates, the head shots, the engies that will not speak out for all the wrong sht that happened there, all of us that still empower the corporate machine...There is a lot there that just stinks but we have t realize that they are fucking nature up because we let them! Wake up ppl! Sad This is one of the times i am really sad to be a part of the human race.

But why letting BP handle this shit? Why would the company that has made this mess, by gross negligence, be capable of cleaning it up and stopping further damage?
I've read interviews with people who sell equipment to clean-up toxic waste for instance, and most of them complain about BP's attitude: BP initially didn't want to spent too much money and waited for days, until the mess got so bad that they simply HAD to order the best equipment. At the same time, the federal government was sort of sitting back and doing nothing. The federal government even sayed at that time:"well, if BP doesn't want to buy cleaning equipment, maybe we will later on".
This indicates that the federal government just knew BP wasn't realy giving everything it could and was more or less watching from a distance.

I've been a fan of obama because of his sharp political analyses. But here he seems to have seriously misjudged the situation.
If he says he was on top of this problem from day one, then i think he is trying to give a bit of a spin to his initial response.
 
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#15 Posted : 7/22/2010 11:46:30 PM

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I know all that....But you have to agree they caused this huge mess and they have the obligation to step up to what they have done. They have more then money enough to minimize events if they wanted to! That is all i´m saying... they do not want to but they should be accounted responsible for their actions.
There is a lot that could had been done a long long time ago. Capitalist bastards:evil:

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