I'm some what a fan of erowid for getting me the brief facts, and some health and safety tips before even considering putting anything in my body.

So...

Why do they advertise how much a dose of DMT goes for? That's kind of disturbing after how much we all know that's a nono' and how irrelevant it would be on that site for anything other than distribution or looking to buy (which is again a taboo for enough really good reasons..).


.. Just when I thought that site was my friend

your going to have to provide a link or something. the main DMT page has nothing like that on it...possibly a link within the site?

Its right Here Under the Basics page..

Erowid exists mainly as a result of the War on Drugs, because free and accurate information on drugs has been obfuscated, hidden from the populace, and generally fucked with by the government(s). As such, Erowid exists to provide any drug user or interested person with accurate information regarding these taboo substances. Essentially Erowid exists to prevent a ridiculous information mismatch between drug consumers and dealers. Because we live in a monetary global society, price is an important area for there to be some sort of reference for the average drug consumer. You cannot expect Erowid to say, "No one should buy or sell DMT, they should extract their own" in lieu of giving a price. Like it or not, many people have no interest in extracting, growing, synthesizing, or otherwise "making" their own drugs and are more than willing to spend cash for these substances. The purpose of Erowid's price for spice is to provide these people "protection" against getting "ripped off".

This is neither an endorsement for selling DMT nor a rationalization for selling DMT. This is merely an explanation of my perception of the rationale behind Erowid providing a street price for DMT.

i don't understand why selling it is such a huge deal.

Not that its a huge deal to whom wouldn't understand the difference. For one, if your distributing DMT, some one is buying it. Marketing these substances promotes people buying DMT as a 'drug' with which they dont know how pure it is, how safe or reliable the source/chemicals used in extraction are.

Some reasons might be,
-DMT freebase is highly reactive and there fore is supposed to have a low shelf life (Not ideal for marketing like other drugs), Although I've heard some people have held on to theirs and it stayed just fine for years without having to change it into its furmate form.

-Drug wars are influenced allot by the distribution chain drugs create.

-DMT is too different from the conventional drugs so much that it is in a way, not conventional to sell.

-Annd, even though I don't know because Ive never used, once you've used it, your supposed to understand?

Thanks snozzle for the reply. Just what I was looking for. My reason for questioning was that there seems to be quite allot of like minded people in the sense that DMT should not be seen sold like drugs. I just figured that an organization like erowid might have shared similar opinions as many nexians here. I understand though. Not realy in favor of it, but it is what it is. It serves its purpose, and that is all.

From a purely economical ethics standpoint: Because even in a monetary global market, a 600% markup on a product as the result of an information mismatch isn't correct.

From a safety standpoint: Because when purchasing from someone else you have no idea of the purity or authenticity of the substance.

Then there are a host of additional moral, ethical, and personal reasons that make selling a "huge deal"

Teach a man to fish and all that

I also don't see the huge deal in selling DMT, if people are stupid enough to buy it then more fool them. We have all, at one time, paid for street drugs while not knowing the quality or quantity and sometimes paid the price whether it be too strong or to weak. So to try and omit DMT from the 'street drug' market is really a matter for supply and demand whether we like it or not - ethics and morals have no say in the drug dealers arsenal, Money talks.

It is lucky though that DMT is not really high on a drug dealers 'menu' - around my area very very few people have even heard of DMT, and I like it that way

To my understanding, besides the obvious purity issues for the buyer, the seller could easily get into all sorts of trouble even if they're selling pure spice.

If someone who didn't know anything about DMT or had heard a little about it and then bought some, chances are they would either a) fail to vape it properly and then get angry or b) vape it successfully, freak out, and then get angry. Either option would quite possibly end in violence, or perhaps legal action....

for discussion on (why we dont condone) selling / price of dmt, please refer to this thread

Definitely agree here. I don't really like to think of DMT as a "drug" even, (with the word 'drug' having all sorts of nagative connotations attached to it, due to the mass media who are very capable of scare-mongering the general public over these sorts of things), so I wouldn't like to see it treated as one by it being sold to people by dealers. I'm pretty sure journalists would be all too eager to spin a bad light on DMT - it's the sort of news that sells!

oh man.... another one? (thread like this)

erowid just tells you the price, so if you want to try it and someone offers you a price you can see if hes selling it for a good price.

I like that threads like this exist. I like that the consensus opinion here is that selling is all the way wrong, and I like that most of the members here are so passionate about the subject. Makes me feel like I'm in the right place, where others have come to revere and respect the profound experience provided by the molecule as much as I have myself.

I am confused as to why the Nexus would know the workings of another site or why anyone here could justify why another site does something we do not...Maybe ask them????
Erowid has it's rules of information and the nexus has it's-why because they do.

This whole selling DMT thing is getting old! Those that want to sell it and possibly live a long time in jail, go right a head and do what you wish, but do it somewhere that is allowed or make your own site for it. The Nexus is not for selling-simple as pie

All who chat or post about selling or prices should be banned-that is the only way to stop it and for people to get the point

Maybe that's a good reason NOT to want dealers to be pushing DMT!

so it's okay to sell mushrooms, but not dmt?

i mean they are biologically the same drug but no one looks down on selling mushrooms.

that's why i don't understand the "huge deal" here.

i'm not trying to advocate selling it, i'm just trying to understand the antagonism towards violating dmt "sacraments" that don't even really exist.

is it possible to have a discussion about this without people being offended?

Here's the thing. If the Nexus becomes a hub for talk of buying, selling, or trading substances listed on the CSA, The Traveller may suffer prosecution and The Nexus could be shut down. Honestly, the reason doesn't matter. This is a community you chose to come to. One of the rules of this community is that no talk of buying or selling drugs is allowed. If you can't or don't want to accept that, that's fine; you can make your own site. Here at the Nexus there is NO TALK OF BUYING OR SELLING DRUGS (not just dmt, so your mushroom example is completely without basis). That is all

Now please read this section of The Attitude, because from your multiple posts, it's pretty clear you haven't.




Can we please lay this to rest? It's not a hard concept to understand. If you don't like it, well...no one's holding a gun to your head forcing you to be a member of The Nexus.

peace
SB