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#1 Posted : 7/8/2010 8:05:10 AM

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HELLO!! I've tried reading about fasa and fasw, and I am confused about what the difference is. Do they do the exact same thing? Like if you have xylene or whatever solvent with dmt in it, you add either fasi or fasw, filter out the fasi or fasw, spice should precipitate out, you pour off the fasw and take your spice? Does fasi and fasw do the same thing, or is one better than the other?
 

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#2 Posted : 7/8/2010 8:28:20 AM

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If you add FASA to xylene, then DMT fumerate will precipitate out. FASA doesn't work like that with limonene for example, so you need to use FASW or FASI (Fumaric acid saturated IPA). Only thing with FASW is that you have a layer of water that you must evaporate to get the DMT out, but the advantage of this is that it's non-toxic.
 
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#3 Posted : 7/8/2010 8:32:21 AM

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soulfood wrote:
If you add FASA to xylene, then DMT fumerate will precipitate out. FASA doesn't work like that with limonene for example, so you need to use FASW or FASI (Fumaric acid saturated IPA). Only thing with FASW is that you have a layer of water that you must evaporate to get the DMT out, but the advantage of this is that it's non-toxic.


I see, so they do the same thing, except water takes longer to evaporate. Awesome, I'll just use water.

Also, if I may ask, is you eat dmt-fumarate, are you taking in like a lot of fumaric acid? Can you get too much fumaric acid in your system? Is the dmt-fumarate like 50% dmt and 50% fumaric acid? I read on dmt wiki that dmt fumarate is about 30% less potent by weight than freebase. Is that just because dmt fumarate has fumaric acid weight added to it?
 
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#4 Posted : 7/8/2010 8:41:16 AM

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fnog9 wrote:


I see, so they do the same thing, except water takes longer to evaporate. Awesome, I'll just use water.


Just remember to get the water nice and warm so enough fumaric acid fills the mix.

fnog9 wrote:

Also, if I may ask, is you eat dmt-fumarate, are you taking in like a lot of fumaric acid? Can you get too much fumaric acid in your system? Is the dmt-fumarate like 50% dmt and 50% fumaric acid? I read on dmt wiki that dmt fumarate is about 30% less potent by weight than freebase. Is that just because dmt fumarate has fumaric acid weight added to it?


Unless you got your fumaric acid from somewhere strange, it should be food grade stuff so you can eat it by the tea spoon. There will be a little fumaric acid contamination but this can sort that out if you want true weight of your product:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...on_of_Final_Purification

Also yeah it's less potent due to the added fumaric acid molecule per 2 DMT molecules.
 
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#5 Posted : 7/9/2010 5:04:41 AM

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Thanks mate. I got fumarate from flowing visions, so it should be fine... though it hasn't arrived yet.
 
 
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