hello,

I could really use some help from some of you experienced explorers and those of wisdom and experience,

I seem to have some sort of entity attached to me, or my aura/field and it keeps following me,
I just moved back to California from Oregon (it was so bad I had to move with a days notice)
It started happening when I moved in w a roommate I found
on Craigslist in Portland, who happened to be heavily into drugs and has done dmt about 60 times and told me of his
adventures, it started happening to me about a couple weeks after I moved in,

at night, right when I'm just about to drift off to sleep, in that state thats when it happens, it
feels like an entity is trying to scare me, an energetic vibration and it makes the sound of a wasp or
mosquito right in front of my face, it scares the shit out of me, it only lasts a second but it is
definetely audible, and it seems like its intention is to scare me and feed off of my fear,
at first I thought it was a mosquito so I looked around for it for an hour to no avail, then it happens
again just when I'm about to fall asleep,

the scariest part is when it speaks english words to me
and it sounds like its coming from inside my own head, but obviously not my own thoughts, i hear it vividly
with an alien energetic accent, but nothing too evil, it's said on different occasions "hello" "hi there"
"ah ha" "there you are" and the first night i sleep with rose quartz under my pillow it say "im sorry" in a
different tone, its only spoken in that way to me about 6 or 7 times. the other thing when it buzzes like a
mosquito in front of my face to scare me, happens 2 or 3 times a night, almost every night

this has been happening for about a month and is driving me crazy and its so bad sometimes I cant even sleep the
whole night and have to try to sleep a few hours when its daylight but it happens then also but usually not as bad,
its the worst when i sleep on my back like an energetic octopus with tentacles trys to clamp on my face, this
happened the first couple of nights, scared me enough for me to scream with fear, I havent slept on my back since,
it also seems to have more access to me
when I sleep on my sides so I have to sleep on my stomach, but it still happens then,

After hours of research and consultations I would have to assume so far
that my old roommate, during his dmt experiences, transported his consciousness to another dimension and
has has some entities attach to him and brought them back with him
to this earth plane to exist amongst him as part of his energy field and then when I came along, 1 or 2 of them
found me, resonated with a part of my unresolved negative emotions from my past trauma, and decided to attach
itself to me and feed of a certain part of my energy, (fear, anger, loneliness?)

I've tried smudging, praying, visualizing white light, physchics, black obsidean and rose quartz crystals, but
it seems like it doesnt want to leave or that it wants something from me, not sure what to do, would really
appreciate some feedback, ideas or solutions that can help depart this entity and send it back to where it came from,

please help if you can, thank you

I went to a local shaman woman that helped me alot after a really bad journey she did a thing called a soul retrieval. She drummed like crazy and visited the spirit world to see what was wrong with me. I felt alot better after I saw her.

I think you should look up a shamanic practitioner in your local area to help you clear this out.

good luck

Have you considered seeking professional medical help, such as a psychiatrist or a mental health clinic? If not, why not?

hmmmm

I dont want to diminish your experience in any way, I give full support but.. Isnt it possible you're creating this to yourself in some way? I find it peculiar that your conclusion is so wild one such as ' your roommate transported to another dimension' and what not. You talk about all these crystal healing and so on, so you seem to be a person that already believes in these kind of things.

Personally I think 'it cant hurt you if you dont believe it can...', but thats just my take on it.

What you describe as what happens when you' re falling asleep points (imho) to normal hypnagogic/dream phenomenons, maybe with sleep paralysis episodes, mixed with your own beliefs and interpretation of the experience.

Once again, I say this not to diminish your experience, but to actually try to help you empower yourself in the process that you are going through. I think that Felnik's suggestion is a good one, that you should go to some kind of shaman and BELIEVE it will help you. I also think that a general healthy life, exercise, being good in daily life, as well as plain time, will help you get through this. Maybe visiting a mental health professional is not a bad idea either.

Good luck! Do report back telling us if you do find something that works for you, in the case others go through similar feelings.

I was just wondering if you are in to any drugs. I know DMT can give me effects way after I've done it. I've gotten the mosquito buzz before.

If you haven't been on anything, I suggest you see a psychiatrist. I don't know anything about shamans but talking through these things helps. The first thing you did right is seek help. Now, you need to go see professional help. I wish I could convey a caring tone in text, but if you are of clear mind and you're hearing voices, you need to talk to a doctor.
Have you considered that it may be a spirit living in the house?
I hope you are able to overcome this obstacle, I would love to read how you were healed in this forum.

Id try burning palo santo in your house a lot and before bed (in your room). Also I hear mugwort tincture on the wrists before going to sleep helps dispel bad dreams/entities. If all else fails get some sleeping pills from your doctor and hopefully that can put you out faster. Hope it works out.
-goodluck

I think its very unlikely that what your experiencing is linked to dmt, especially if you havnt taken it yourself.
Do you find yourself frozen to the bed when these things happen? Iv had a few experiences with sleep paralysis, what you describe sounds very similar although i beleive this is much more likely in the morning than at night. Sleep paralysis is common in people ~age 20, and is more likely if you are in an unfamiliar location or have irregular sleep patterns, it is also much more common when sleeping on your back.
What you describe also sounds abit like schizophrenia, voices in your head and the fact that you have made attempts to self medicate the problem, and have jumped to a fairly wild conclusion rather than questioning your mental health and seeking professional help are typical of schitzophrenics. Schitzophrenia also tends to become aparent in early adulthood.

Im sure there are many other possible expanations. I expect it is linked by moving house, your mind does weird things when faced with changes. Is this the first time youv moved? How old are you? Id recommend seeing a doctor or psychiatrist if it persists.

Good advice

It definitely sounds like a phenomenon that goes on with many people before sleep, or in that murky in-bewteen phase. None of us can tell you what it is, but I wouldn't come to any conclusions about its nature to quickly because then it gets filtered through more and more interpretations, and expectations. It might help to remain as calm as possible without projecting fear during the experience because thats probably counter-productive..whether it be aliens, ghosts, schizophrenia, or all of the above. Meditating can also help alot with clearing your head and maybe tackling this problem with a grounded mind.

Ur post reminds me of something i had thats sort of similar to this as a kid. During a trip last fall i remembered a strange thing that happened a few times when i was around 8 or 9, just before sleep, which for some reason my mind had blocked out for years. I'd go into a wierd hypnagogic state after listening to music, or just laying in bed, where an oily blob in my vision would sort of grow that i could kind of feel and coax to come closer.

The energy was very wierd but for some reason i just went with it since i was young and had daydreamed my whole life of odd things and that something miraculous would one day happen to me.. as every kid does during those years of openness. The thing started morphing into an oily liquid-like face and i got scared but that was quickly overshadowed by my amazement, and i couldn't really move anyway so i had no choice in watching. so it began morphing into countless faces, all with expressions that relayed their emotional states to me while i layed there crying and/or laughing with some profound sense of connection to these people. There was a zany cartoonish characteristic to it. The thing would keep on changing and changing into more peoples faces every split second in a fast paced way that i can only relate to the facial distortions that occur on lsd or mushrooms. I was ecstatic about what was happening but by the next morning the astonishment faded much like the memory of a profound dream does throughout the day. I thoroughly enjoyed it and have no idea what it was, i just have the memories. It was the strangest thing that i've ever gone through before encountering psychedelics, which are the only thing i can relate it to. The devil, insanity, god, were all things passing through my mind back then. Looking back i see how it could have impacted me much differently had i not relinquished my need to be in control and know exactly what was happening. i knew it was worthless to cling to any of these ideas of what the experience was since there was no way to find out for sure anyway.

If it doesn't want to leave, perhaps a different response besides resistance will aid you in getting to the bottom of this? Maybe try accepting that it is there and asking it questions like what are you? What do you want? ect ect. I really dunno man, these are just ideas that come up when looking back on our differing experiences of the bizzare and how to go about dealing with them. All i know is that what you resist, will persist. Good luck bro! and definitely let us know how it goes or stop by the chat if you need people to talk to!

It makes me so sad that people here are blowing the op off as if he has some sort of mental illness.

That is so dismissive and its such bullshit(sorry for the language but this upsets me a great deal.)

It should be clear, that evil is very real. Nor is there any reason to believe that evil, so prominent in the natural realm, would not be just as likely to exist in the paranormal.

I've had the "sleep paralysis" happen to me a few times, nobody will ever convince me it was a natural occurance or some mental illness or some brain misfire.

"Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight."

Luke 10:17-21

Some of you hate the Bible and Jesus, but hes stuck it out with me through thick and thin and through every spiritual attack on my being. So I offer this advice, The love of my father WILL keep you safe.

If you choose another path, I sincerely hope you get rid of this thing no matter how.

Hi, avatar. I'm sorry you are having a hard time. I know a little bit about this type of thing from experience. First of all, I guarantee you that this is common and this BY ITS SELF is NOT a sign of mental illness. And for people who so ardently attempt to make contact with other dimensions, it strikes me as a little odd to jump right to "Dude you're mental".... anyway...

The fact that this is happening to you while falling asleep suggest that you may be experiencing very common out of body / lucid dreaming phenomenon.

Often when people start to leave their body/ or become slightly out of phase, they experience a strong "vibration" sensation along with hearing loud ripping or buzzing sounds. Sounds like what you are describing. Often In this state you will here people calling your name or saying things to you along with paralysis. Some people will experiences something sitting on them/ some times harassing them. Google "old Hag". It's been my experience that the voices are just left over mental activity you become more aware of in this state. Our minds are always primed to hear someone say our name and our mind will jump the gun. Anyone ever feel their cell vibrate in their pocket when it didn't?

When I was younger, I would sometimes be startled by a voice calling my name while drifting off... in my mothers voice. Once again very common.

The first time I induced an out of body experience, I relaxed very very deeply using breath control. Soon my body was completely numb and vibrations spread throughout my body. As I focused on them they became more and more intense. Soon it felt like I was being electrocuted and there was a loud rushing sound. Then there was a thunder clap and I was 3 feet above my body flailing wildly. When I snapped back I was scared shitless. I looked it up online and it turns out to very common.

So the good news is you are not alone... and probably not crazy... and probably not being harassed by an entity. And may have an opportunity here to develop the ability to leave your body.

The bad news is, it might be an entity. There is a lot of stuff out there in the etheric and astral + hyperspace. Thought forms, spirits, elementals etc.

And IF you are being harassed what you need to know is these things can't *hurt* you like you can be hurt here. In those realms they use and feed on emotion. Some of these things will try and scare you. But that's all they got.

Let’s put it this way. Let’s assume that spirits and demons and elves exist all of it. What is a ghost going to do to you? It is a very limited being. Humans however, while being very ignorant of ourselves, possess many, many dimensional bodies. That is what allows us to travel from the physical to the etheric to the astral to the mental and throughout hyperspace. We show up in their back yards like big dummies, without even knowing how we did it, while most "gods" could never manifest on a plane other than their own. Why would a demon make a pact with a human? Because we are much much more capable then we know. And they would like to use our power.

Point being If you face almost any of these things without fear they run for the hills.
Now this is just what I think. If this is an area you don’t want to go, a doctor could prescribe you something that will numb your senses and lower your awareness. Then you won’t be able to see it. So out of sight out of mind right? Right?

Naw, you are crazy. (read Robert Monroe’s journeys out of body)

ask it what it wants or is trying to tell you....but if it continues to bug you..lol pun intended... tell it to bugger off

I thought that most of society had put aside the stigma associated with mental illness, but it seems that some members of this forum don’t believe that mental illness is a possibility when someone, soon after hearing stories of DMT experiences, starts hearing voices and as a result moves to a new state.

If someone complained of chest pains, lightheadedness, and numbness radiating down his left arm, I’d recommend he see a cardiologist. Would anyone here find that so objectionable? (I suppose some would!)

But as soon as I recommend seeking professional help for what seems to be a psychiatric problem, certain members get upset. There is no shame in acknowledging the possibility of a psychiatric problem. I know that some members here are very anti-establishment and will avoid conventional approaches to almost everything, but there are many caring health professionals out there.

I’m not qualified to diagnose such problems, nor are most (or all?) members of this forum, and a qualified professional can determine if the problem is related to sleep paralysis or something more serious.

If you’ve followed my posts, you’d know that I have no doubts concerning the reality of the immaterial realm, but if I started hearing voices while not under the influence of DMT, I would be very concerned about my mental health.

I also must say that I don’t believe that evil exists in the immaterial realm. Evil is an abstraction that people use to describe and explain pain and suffering in this physical world of ours. Where there is no physicality, there is no evil.

Good point. I know what you are saying. and those symptoms would justify a cardiologist. But how does someone having an experience at a very specific time (falling asleep, not all day)when hearing voices, seeing things, and dreaming NORMALLY happen suggest Illness? So, maybe you hear voices only when you smoke "something". How is that different? Would you run to a doctor... especially knowing the doctor probably isn't equipped to deal with it. Now if you hear voices often not just at this one time, and were confused, and had a twitch.. I might be like ya get your ass to a doctor. Doctors are good. I go to a shrink to deal with emotional issues. But NOT because I had an OOBE. And if I did tell a doctor I had a OOBE and was
worried, what are they going to do... throw random pills at me?



Guy: Doc! Doc! When I fall asleep I see and hear things! Ekk!
Doctor: Oh no MEEEE too!!! *doctor OD's on Oxycontin*

(I know I'm an ass)

Also consider that someone "falling asleep" probably is under the affect DMT, or at least high on melatonin.

But you know what gibran2, you may be completely right. I don't think we know enough to be sure, and staying on the safe side is prudent. And I can tell that I'm overly emotional invested in this for some reason. So no disrespect to you. *offers hug*

might want to look into the threads here .... search on "sleep paralysis" ... from a couple of montbs ago. You can reserach/Google it and compare what you read with your own experience. I've had lots of it, it became almost amusing as I had more of it. I'm not saying that's what you're experiencing, but it sounds like it from what you've written. I believe it's connected to mediative states that happen naturally (and possibly induced if what we read about the pineal gland, etc is true) in the body...if so , there is something to learn from it...you can take control of it or at least watch it objectively knowing more about it.

I wasn't so upset at the thought of it being mental, I just get upset at the dismissive way people suggest it. I wasn't trying to call you out directly or anything, its just that if you have ever seen the inside the actors studio with dave chappelle, you'll hear him talk about how they called him crazy in the papers, and how they called martin lawrence crazy when he was running around with that gun saying people were trying to kill him. He states that martin "is a strong dude" and for that to happen and for people to just say he was crazy, is dismissive and its bullshit and that is also how he felt about his own situation, and its very true.

I feel as though this happens more often than not with paranormal anything. People put so much faith into their physical senses and tend to dismiss anything else. Again not you per say, but people I deal with in general.

However, this is what I think about your "professionals"...

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=4051

Anybody who takes the time to read that will find something very interesting about these "professionals" and what they are giving to our children and adults.(the small scroll bar is mostly comments at the bottom the article isn't that long guys).

The number of warnings about the drugs these people give out has INCREASED by 1900% since 2002 as of 2006, THATS OVER 4 YEARS AGO. Yet these medicines are still being prescribed.

That being said, if you have never experienced evil enough to know it exists in the paranormal, id say you're lucky and we will have to agree to disagree on that situation.

Also thanks for not hating on my Bible stuff, yeah it happens so much I have to thank people when they dont bag on my faith.

Avatar.

What you describe sounds like hypnogogic hallucinations(+/- sleep paralysis) which do not indicate a mental illness.

If you are not having such experiences at any other time of the day, or indeed any other new odd symptoms then I doubt you have too much to worry about.Try not to torment yourself looking for esoteric explanations for what is a fairly common occurrence in people who are in no way ill.

These hallucinations can be seen in narcolepsy, in psychosis (but almost invariably with other features) an on occasion with certain types of seizure disorder.

I like it that the problem of evil is resurfacing (again) - now that we've had enough of the positive stuff... The swing of the pendulum... as always.

I believe in evil, because I live in a world of duality. Evil is part of the story here. The story wouldn't work without it.

And although all of this can be seen as a story - when seen from the director's eye -, it can also be very real. And when it gets real - when the object becomes a subject -, it can be scary as hell.

When that happens, there is an option to go with it and find out what the story is, our own personal story, in which these particular events find their meaning. By building (uncovering?) the story, we can put these events into context and thereby get a grip on them, a chance to deal with them in a meaningful way. If we explore the story within this context, we may find its inner logic and also the storylines that can lead to its resolution. (That's how I'm living my entire life btw.)

Going to a shaman, using crystals and all of this stuff may be seen as superstition from the perspective of someone who has a wholly different story. But these things are definitely not superstition for someone who finds him or herself in the depths of that which we call the spiritual realm, where all of this becomes - sometimes painfully - real.

A lot of times on this forum it has been said that we are not entitled to give medical advice to anyone because we are not professionals. I can see the validity of this statement, provided that those to whom we send these people are true professionals, who can really see the problem in its entire, unreduced complexity and handle it in a holistic way. In other words, they can provide the patient with a story which brings a resolution to his/her problem. But can they do that?

In a sense, the story they usually give - "take this medication and it will make you better" - can be seen as a story, albeit a bit dull. And in most cases, it works. Medication taken, symptoms gone. But:



I don't doubt that there are cases where (currently) medication is the only way. I don't doubt the existence of organic psychoses, physical debilitations, autism, etc. Even in those cases, I don't exclude the possibility of some magical healing, but I clearly see we are not in the position to do such healing on a global scale yet. If we have to choose what is better for such a patient: being in constant terror because of the frightening invasions of the "spirit world" or being separated from these attacks by sedation, I think it is a compassionate thing to go the second route (albeit my heart breaks that we have to do this, that we don't have the tools to give holistic help in such cases).

But I think there are also a lot of cases where the reason for the symptoms is entirely psychological in nature. To give medication in these cases is also understandable - my wife is a psychiatrist and they were told by the directors of the hospital to spend 20 minutes on each patient, otherwise financial targets cannot be met -, but I find this is not a real remedy, only a cover-up of the symptoms with a seemingly comfortable solution.

I think anyone who has mentioned sleep paralysis is right on the money, having experienced this myself.

Avatar, do as another person said and search for "Sleep Paralysis", it's been discussed by me and others several times in this forum, you can read about our experiences and you will see that we have all had similar things happen to us as they have happened to you. I must say I raised my eyebrows somewhat when you concluded to yourself that dmt entities had transported from another dimension and locked into your energy field and whatnot, but I guess I can sympathise because it is very scary and unnerving, and if you haven't ever heard of this before then you have no idea why it is happening to you - I myself thought I was becoming mentally ill and kept it entirely to myself for months because I didn't want people to think I was psychotic, and I didn't want it on my medical record. Then I stumbled across a group on facebook about it, read all other peoples stories, and the relief that it was a common occurence for hundreds of thousands of people was comforting in the sense that I knew I was not alone.

A lot of people find there are triggers for it, mine are cannabis and sleep deprivation, my most recent incident was a few weeks ago going to sleep after a heavy night of alcohol the night previous. Eventually you will stop being scared, and instead, you'll get mean with it, this is what happened to me a few weeks ago - I felt the paralysis, something shaking me, felt a 'presence' and I was just like "FFS, I'm tired, just piss off NOW!!!" and told myself to wake up, and I did, and went back to sleep without incident (normally going back to sleep just puts me straight back there), so I guess the message is, I know it aint easy, but fight the fear, and take control, find out your triggers if any and do what you can to avoid them, and good luck.

Methtical

thank you all you amazing people for your feedback and for trying to help, i really appreciate it, and it is encouraging,

for an update, i am positive that this is not mental illness or my own thoughts or hallucinations, we all know that there are many
things that go bump in the night that we still are in the evolution of understanding or comprehending with our finite human minds,

it is not sleep paralysis, or demon attacks which i call it, ive had experiences with both those and this is very distinct,
the white light visualization seems to help as it raises your vibrational frequency and helped to supposedly close the door the the other realms so that you are less accessible,

it still bothers me but the intensity of it seems to have decreased a little bit, enough to actually eventually fall asleep, and the sleeping pills ideas works fairly well also, i still hear a faint continuous hum from time to time in the background in the day when i listen for it, which i try not to do, ugh, its still there, close to me, this is so mysterious, i think i saw a post talking about a dmt wasp when in the dimension under the influence? that might be it? is it possible for one of these things to enter into our realm?

but what is its function or intention? and why does it persist to stay with me? if it is feeding off my past negative energy maybe the universe is using it to clear any past negative unresolved emotion or trauma or unconscious phycological reversals that have been stuck and plauging me for my whole life,

thank you all again for your contribution, i hope to continue this thread till the entity departs and i will share with you all when that time comes, please feel free to continue to add to this so that we all can learn and grow from it and have a better experience repituare for the next time something crazy like this happens to one of us, namaste

I’m glad you’re starting to feel better.

Rest assured that hyperspace entities are not able to cross the boundary separating their realm from ours, at least this is what I believe after hundreds of visits. It has been my experience that they are generally not interested in or curious about our realm in the same way that we are about theirs.

I also believe that evil is an abstraction created by human beings to explain suffering, pain, and misery generally caused by other human beings. I can’t think of a single instance of evil in the world that wasn’t perpetrated by human beings. In a realm without physicality as we understand it, there is no evil.