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Mill
#61 Posted : 7/6/2010 12:13:03 AM

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Could you explain the theory behind the "acetone bomb" you speak of to remove the cellulose causing snot issues? Is this done right after the liquid has been reduced?
 

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#62 Posted : 7/6/2010 12:29:05 AM

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did u use the search on the site ?
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#63 Posted : 7/6/2010 10:40:55 AM

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https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=9467

couldnt just leave it.
antrocles wrote:
...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#64 Posted : 7/6/2010 10:43:22 PM

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Hey thanks man, I found it shortly before you posted it lol. Anyway this is interesting and seems like it could be quite helpful so I'll have to give it a try next time. Is this likely to be helpful even if the reduced volume is not overly concentrated/syrupy as you mentioned previously?
 
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#65 Posted : 7/7/2010 4:33:02 AM

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well in that link - the resin would have been 24g - it was 12g tho caus 12g of cellulose was removed - therefore it was 2x as potent due to that tek.
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...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...

...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".

IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.


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#66 Posted : 7/8/2010 4:14:39 AM

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ok, I guess my question was if acetone would cause the cellulose to fall out as effectively even if it was rather dilute, for example if the solution in your link was 2-4X as diluted, would this work all the same...add enough acetone and the cellulose will settle independent of how much the solution is reduced? If so, sweet!
 
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#67 Posted : 7/8/2010 2:45:22 PM

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soulfood wrote:


It seems he's using an STB tek in the example, so obviously a lot of those issues don't apply here, but he does report getting cleaner results with KOH all the same.

Is this something you have experimented with?


Just for the record soulfood, i used KOH for my try at the tek, i have no idea of the measurements tho as i just whistled a lil tune while gradually adding it to my tea.

If you look back at page 2 of the thred you can see the picture of my final uncleaned product, pretty clean. could it be the KOH?, ill report back again soon as i will be having another go at the tek shortly with the same materials as before.

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#68 Posted : 7/8/2010 2:56:50 PM

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I think I too am going to have to get me some KOH. Smile
 
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#69 Posted : 7/8/2010 3:16:15 PM
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soulfood wrote:
I think I too am going to have to get me some KOH. Smile


lots of folks report less emulsion issues with KOh vs NaOh. ime lye worys fine, you just need to add more than the "teks" say. if you add enough it totally gets slack, zero emulsions...same with KOh
 
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#70 Posted : 7/13/2010 2:28:49 AM

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So I didnt have any lye around but plenty of Ca(OH)... Dumped that in the tea to basify and now Ive got a very thick and nasty basic tea. Poured some limo in and shook it up but its gonna take a while to separate form the looks, its like a milkshake at the mo

hopefully by morning there is some separation

Anyone else tried using lime?


*edit*

It would seem that lime was a very bad idea. The mix has gotten very thick since I let it sit. 300ml limo was poured in and it seems to be completely miscible with the goo... Total emulsion.
Any idea's on how I could get the limo out or somehow start again? Id guess about 300grams of dry material was used so there is a decent amount of goods stuck in this god forsaken milkshake
 
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#71 Posted : 7/13/2010 3:01:50 AM

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Anyone bioessay this tek?
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#72 Posted : 7/13/2010 1:33:16 PM

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rumplestiltskin wrote:
Anyone bioessay this tek?


Yup... it's mescaline alright Smile Though the key results per mg depend on how well you clean it up at the end. As with any tek you get more efficent the more times you repeat it.
 
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#73 Posted : 7/15/2010 1:11:38 AM
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antichode wrote:
So I didnt have any lye around but plenty of Ca(OH)... Dumped that in the tea to basify and now Ive got a very thick and nasty basic tea. Poured some limo in and shook it up but its gonna take a while to separate form the looks, its like a milkshake at the mo

hopefully by morning there is some separation

Anyone else tried using lime?


*edit*

It would seem that lime was a very bad idea. The mix has gotten very thick since I let it sit. 300ml limo was poured in and it seems to be completely miscible with the goo... Total emulsion.
Any idea's on how I could get the limo out or somehow start again? Id guess about 300grams of dry material was used so there is a decent amount of goods stuck in this god forsaken milkshake


if its still snotty, not enough base has been added,
what your ph?
 
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#74 Posted : 7/15/2010 1:16:39 AM

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I never really use lime for wet teks. It just doesn't seem soluble enough. I'd get some Lye or KOH ASAP.
 
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#75 Posted : 7/15/2010 3:07:01 AM

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Yea, lime is terrible for wet teks. Tried it once and learned that really fast.

Calcium Hydroxide Solubility:
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0.173 g/100 mL (20 °C)

 
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#76 Posted : 7/15/2010 4:31:06 AM

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PH is at least 12 (hard to tell with strips tho). I have definately learnt my lesson. Lime doesnt dissolve and just makes everything cling together. There is some seperation now after a few days but the limo has so much froth on top, its going to be a mission to clean out. With a bit of luck I can decant off the tea which is still kinda thick but most of the lime has settled to a gluggy mess at the bottom

have some KOH on order for next time Pleased
 
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#77 Posted : 7/19/2010 5:44:43 PM

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What is the advantage of making a tea first and then basifying the tea, instead of just dumping your powdered cactus in basified water?
And (i've asked this already, sorry...) what is the perfect base:water ratio? after some research i came to the conclusion that it should be around 30% NaOH...correct?
And (last question)could i just dump NaOH in the cactus tea or should i really make a lye solution first, and then add this solution to the tea?
I did my homework, but i could not find an accurate answer on those questions, thanks!!
 
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#78 Posted : 7/21/2010 1:10:38 PM

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teotenakeltje wrote:
What is the advantage of making a tea first and then basifying the tea, instead of just dumping your powdered cactus in basified water?


As with any A/B extraction compared to an STB, you're going to get cleaner results. Also with a cactus tea, you can reduce it down whereas with a straight STB you have to add more water, which is a bitch when it comes to pulling the goods, as freebase mescaline is quite water soluble and generally the more water you have, the more pulls will be needed.

teotenakeltje wrote:

And (i've asked this already, sorry...) what is the perfect base:water ratio? after some research i came to the conclusion that it should be around 30% NaOH...correct?
And (last question)could i just dump NaOH in the cactus tea or should i really make a lye solution first, and then add this solution to the tea?
I did my homework, but i could not find an accurate answer on those questions, thanks!!


I just add the base straight to the tea and shake it up pretty good until the desired pH is reached. If the base won't desolve, add a little more water.
 
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#79 Posted : 7/21/2010 5:49:42 PM

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Thank you so much for your reply Soulfood! That helped me a lot...
 
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#80 Posted : 7/27/2010 12:44:35 PM
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Phlux- wrote:

A very strong batch of lye water(200ml or so) is made and added to the tea - and the solution agitated.

What should be the ph of the tea ? or of the soln

Phlux- wrote:

then the ph is pushed up again with more lye.

to what ph can it be pushed ?
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