Okay so me and the girlfriend discovered that morning glory seeds were supposed to contain LSA depending on where we got them to(organic/non organic source).

Decisions were made, we were going to give it a try. We took some necessary precautions to ensure that the seeds were not treated with anything and even after I personally did a good wash of them with dish liquid in hot water.

I think we might have taken about 125 seeds each (3.7 grams each). This is supposed to be a low dose? Well anyways the effects were not quite what I was hoping for. I became nauseous, restless, sick, and eventually, dead feeling. I would think I was having a bad trip and needed to just control myself and relax a bit. It didn't help. I eventually noticed that I couldn't think of anything. I would think "What can I do or say to blow some time.. or anything" but nothing. It was like a complete mind block where I was confused, couldn't think about anything, felt cranky, nauseous (but not to the point of throwing up).

It took me nearly all night to get to sleep. I had no visuals. To me it just felt like how I would feel if i had nothing to do, nothing to say, no one to say anything to, sitting in my computer chair at home for hours to the point that I was bored and uncomfortable, sick and knew I couldn't go anywhere or do anything for hours more.. Strange reaction?

What did I do wrong? Was there something wrong with the seeds? Maybe there's something wrong with me?
My girlfriend reported seeimg some visuals but they would be there, and then they wouldn't. Could it be setting? The setting was horrible as hell and Ill leave it there.

Thanks for any input in advance!
-Steve

hmmmm maybe the wash took away some of the alkaloids?

I havent had experience with morning glory so I dont know about dosages and so on.. I did take Hawaian Baby WoodRose a couple of times, but I must say it didnt impress me very much either. There was significant nausea, I felt sedated, weird head-space and no nice visuals. There were some interesting realizations and psychedelic psychological effects but not enough (compared to the 'side-effects' to make me want to take it again. I am much more interested in the other psychedelics..

There is this talk of mixing lsa-containing seeds with something containing acetaldehyde, like fresh peppermint or pepermint oil, which seems to qualitatively change the experience for better. Some people hypothesize its LSH being created and say its very obviously different than pure LSA, but there is no real proof that LSH is being created at all. It might be LSH, it might be something else entirely, or it might be self-suggestion, we just dont know at this point until further tests are done. I will probably experiment with it at some point, though, to see if it makes LSA seeds worth taking.

But yeah man about the setting... If the setting was horrible, im sure that didnt contribute to it either.. Lesson number 1 is definitely "never take psychedelics without taking good care with set and setting", please take this in consideration next time.

Thanks,
Its actually been a little while since this experience (about 6 months), but I noticed this branch on the forum and thought that asking questions wouldn't hurt. It my understanding now that set and setting account for 50% of my being able to enjoy the experiences I have.

I might consider some kind of descent extraction that's rumored to have less side effects and maybe more of the qualities I'm looking for.

Washing the seeds with hot water may have broken down some percent of the fragile actives.

With Morning Glory and Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds you definitely need to do some kind of extraction.
And even still, with only simple kitchen extractions they are not at the top of most peoples list of most rewarding psychedelics.

The first time I ate MG seeds I ate ~50 seeds. Nothing of note really at that dosage minus a change in relative head-space.
My second experience was with 500-600 seeds. This experience was nothing short of mind blowing, with intense visuals and a massive body load. Definitely a ++++ experience. However, the trip was not enjoyable because of the intense nausea I experienced ALL NIGHT. I basically spent the entire night on the toilet exploding from both ends. All in all, a negative trip, but boy was I glad to come out of that one!
My third and last experience was ~175 seeds. Again I vomited very quickly and could not enjoy the experience at all.
I think that an extraction is almost 100% necessary if you feel like exploring LSA and LSH.

I once took 150 seeds powdered and then blended into cold water. I drank the water and the seed pulp. That trip as amazing..there was some slight leg cramping durring the come on but other than that I was ok..I had very intense visions of aztec/mayan palaces and strange symbols etc..it was up there with higher doses of mushrooms and ayahuasca in terms of visions. I also rememver the come down lasted all night and and I felt fantastic..it was amazing I sat in this basement watchign my freinds band play, smoking cannabis. There was neon glow posters everywhere and black lights and they were all alive and I felt soo euphoric.

That trip completely dwarfed anything I expereinced from LSD. Those seeds were from a local entheo vendor and I think they were quite fresh..I tried 2 other times with seeds sold at home depot and they were barely active.

Im interested in morning glories again though..without the LSH conversion since I never did the conversion and got such amazing effects. I did smoke cannabis with it and thats when the visions really overtook me, but I smoked tons of weed back then all day long and smoked weed the entire time I took LSD every time and never had anything like that. I am confident I had pure LSD. LSD for me was nice, but that morning glory trip just totally blew LSD out of the water.

those seeds, man!!!
they are so inconsistent.
i've had the best trips of my life, the worst trips of my life, the most boring trips of my life, and completely inactive trips.
it doesn't matter what the dosage is...they just vary too much.
i've done a cold water and lemon extract on 600 morning glories and felt NOTHING.
i've done a cold water and lemon extract on 10 woodrose seeds and gotten nothing.
i could only get effects from eating the whole pulverized seeds but by then i was so nauseous and miserable i didn't even care about the mental effects.
eating 20 woodrose seeds whole was absolutely the most terrifying, intense, and profound near-death experience EVER!!!!!
a violent poisoning indeed!!
there's something magical about those seeds, but i haven't figured out how to unlock it safely, and frankly don't care to anymore!!!
i experienced things on that 20 seeds trip that no entheogen could ever touch...but it's not a reliable vehicle to say the least.