Phantastica wrote:so someone would still trip if the LSA was extracted out of the seeds right? since LSA is a sedative, isn't it better then to discard it (or convert to LSH), and consume just seeds without the LSA, or no..?
Most techs that claim to extract LSA in fact also extract LSH with it, as well as several other similar compounds which are also likely psychedelic.
Fresher seeds are said to contain more LSH. It’s been theorized that all of the LSA in these seeds is originally LSH, but that it decomposes into LSA. LSA is a breakdown product of LSH. Apparently, the longer the seeds sit, the more LSA and less LSH they contain.
The LSA to LSH techs that exist are NOT proven to make LSH, but SWIM believes they do work to make LSH. LSH is a stimulant. According to animal lab tests, LSH pretty much duplicates the effects of LSD, but has more side effects, while LSA is simply a sedative. The LSA to LSH techs, when they are successful, completely get rid of the sedative effects of LSA, and make the brew have stimulant effects, and make it more psychedelic, more in-line with the effects of freshly picked seeds.
While the LSH debate is ongoing, it’s a fact that freshly picked seeds are more psychedelic, more stimulating, and less sedating that older seeds. This makes sense, as the LSH will breakdown into LSA over time, losing it’s psychedelic stimulant effects, and becoming a sedative of little interest.
The psychedelic effects of LSH in man are UNPROVEN by lab tests. So keep that in mind. Despite that, the evidence seems to point to LSH being the main active psychedelic in the seeds, because LSA obviously isn’t, and LSH is the closest thing to LSD in molecular structure that’s present in the seeds. The seeds also contain other similar alkaloids that are likely psychedelic as well, but LSH is the closest structurally to LSD by far. Judging by the structure and the animal lab tests, I’m willing to bet LSH is the active psychedelic in the seeds. LSA is proven to be a sedative, so it’s either LSH or something else, or a combination of alkaloids that make the seeds psychedelic.
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