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mad_banshee
#21 Posted : 4/28/2010 8:09:11 PM

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g1risMethyl wrote:
SWIM is in the process of getting Xylene. Its smelly, and the wife thinks its a nasty chemical. He will get it soon enough, For now he put in another pull, and hopes that this exhausts the bark. It gives and gives, He hope its finally had enough.

I think that SWIMs last pull was pretty gnarly looking. It was quite yellow (nothing a nice cleaning/re-x cant fix but..) so Im sure SWIMs only going to pick up a tiny amount. He used ~55mL naptha, heated.


My swim picks up a LOT more spice using xylene, even after it seems exausted with naptha pulls. But you are right, xylene is nasty, nasty stuff and you must evaporate it outdoors. If you don't have an outdoor shed or something to use to evap it, then don't even consider working with xylene. Maybe try limonene or just move on to more bark. At about $80 a kilo for powdered bark, spice is very cheap no matter how you look at it. Do buy bark by the kilo as its cheaper that way.


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#22 Posted : 4/29/2010 6:10:53 PM

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Okay, jbark brought to my attention I forgot to post my yeild! in total it was 1g, 754mg. ~1.7% total of ~103g MRHB, but SWIM since smoked a bunch, and doesnt have pictures to show.

The picture of the piled up spice was from the 2nd pull. It yeileded *rifles through papers* 530mg. the first pull yeiled 583mg, and the 3rd pull was 431. The last pull was about ~230, not too sure, it was a last chance thing.
Lets go extract something together Smile

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#23 Posted : 5/1/2010 5:00:32 PM

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I posted this elsewhere g1risMethyl, but I can't find it and I had a few questions to add - that's a hefty haul! 1.8% is no joke! I am going to try this method with 100g of a recently purchased 300.

Question: it seems to me that heating the naptha is kinda pointless, no? 75ml of heated solvent going in 1.5L of water + 100g lye + 100g MHRB would distribute its energy quickly and not significantly increase the temperature of the entire volume, no? can you or someone elaborate if I am in error?

Nudder Question: If its this damn easy, and the yields are so high, why does ANYONE bother with with any other tek, particularly A/B? what's the downside? clearly not yield... maybe cleanliness of product? Amount of NaOH required?

Can't wait to try it!

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#24 Posted : 5/1/2010 5:09:18 PM

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jbark wrote:
Question: it seems to me that heating the naptha is kinda pointless, no? 75ml of heated solvent going in 1.5L of water + 100g lye + 100g MHRB would distribute its energy quickly and not significantly increase the temperature of the entire volume, no? can you or someone elaborate if I am in error?


Heating the naptha helps the DMT migrate into the nps quicker, its not trying to increase the temp of the entire jug. When the solvent is hot (not boiling, not burn your hand off hot. just hot.) the spice feels welcome into the solvent Smile

jbark wrote:
Nudder Question: If its this damn easy, and the yields are so high, why does ANYONE bother with with any other tek, particularly A/B? what's the downside? clearly not yield... maybe cleanliness of product? Amount of NaOH required?


I.. Don't.. Know. My product is pretty snow white.. and NaOH was not fully weighed out.. probably around 95-105g, panoramix a/b uses 96g.. so you got me. Acid soak is good for something but I dunno what...

anyone care to elaborate this?
Lets go extract something together Smile

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Smoke Spice, NOW

Gir likes to tell lies, and the truth, but gir cant even tell the difference between them...


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#25 Posted : 5/4/2010 6:31:26 AM

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From what i remember, acid cook helps with whole bark, particularly acacia bark. With powdered MHRB it seems unnecessary.
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#26 Posted : 5/4/2010 2:06:32 PM

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D_Juggz wrote:
From what i remember, acid cook helps with whole bark, particularly acacia bark. With powdered MHRB it seems unnecessary.



Thanks juggz. Yes it does help to break down cell walls more than just simply basifying, I heard in the chat yesterday (I wish I would have copied and pasted Embarrased ) that the acid soak does increase the yeild, though not by much.. I honestly think my total was a freak yeild, IceHouseShamen wrote that he got a 1.8% yeild on 110g mrhb using a heated acid soak.

SWIM told me he is going to try a side-by-side A/B, STB, FASA when he gets his kilo's, and hes looking at UBER macro lenses, and a 400x optical USB digital microscope for beautiful picturesStopStopStopStop . Hes also going to try to make this beautiful Ruby Red.
Lets go extract something together Smile

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19:10:05 ‹house› mama aya gave me lego man eye healers


Smoke Spice, NOW

Gir likes to tell lies, and the truth, but gir cant even tell the difference between them...


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#27 Posted : 5/14/2010 1:42:42 AM

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elofer feels that anyone who has a wife that will share this magnificent experience with is a BLESSED BLESSED BLESSED beyond measure SWIY indeed!! GIR'S swim is truly a fortunate one!

I have hoped for such an experience some day, mostly SWIM just finds unwillingnessSad and/or fear from the other as a roadblock
though it has had one experience with a lovely fey princess that was tru extasy!! just the toutch of her warm hads was like amking the sweetest love ever!!!!!!Laughing
 
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#28 Posted : 5/17/2010 5:38:16 AM

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Gir, how did you pull the naptha out. i usually use a turkey baster and glass mason jars, but i wanted to give this method a shot and i'm having a difficult time getting the naptha out. i got about 3/4 of the total naptha. and after that point i'm just pulling up alot of mhrb juice. whats the trick with a milk jug?


 
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#29 Posted : 5/17/2010 1:16:55 PM

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Trick =

Squeeze your jug until it comes up to the top, then siphon off. which is =

Squeeze both sides pretty hard and the water level will rise ^. once it gets to a certain point, you can siphon off the top. Its all hit and miss, basically just have your baster straight up and down, and barely touching the surface of the water. I know its annoyingly difficult (specially for gir who doesnt have steady hands [lucky wifey does]) but youll get it with patience. You can also decant the last little bit by pouring it into your jar, then siphoning the naptha out of that.

Double Decanting for the win.

hope it helps

-gir
Lets go extract something together Smile

house wrote:
19:10:05 ‹house› mama aya gave me lego man eye healers


Smoke Spice, NOW

Gir likes to tell lies, and the truth, but gir cant even tell the difference between them...


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#30 Posted : 5/17/2010 4:17:43 PM

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#31 Posted : 5/18/2010 12:03:43 AM

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#32 Posted : 5/18/2010 5:14:08 AM

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so i just squeezed like you told me and now i feel dumb for not having thought about that. so simple, yet so effective.
 
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#33 Posted : 6/24/2010 5:53:30 PM

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Hi Gir thanks for the great and simple extraction method. Ive used this one on my latest of extractions. Only difference is I transfer the whole solution to a tall cylindrical glass to draw it out easier then collect in mason jars for freeze precipitation. So I have a question. If that is your martini glass you used in the freeze precipitation, is it necessary to have a lid on it, or did you?

Also I find turkey basters to be terrible at collecting anything. I don't know if it's just me, but when it collects it does not even stay in the reservoir, I much prefer an eye dropper, or two.
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#34 Posted : 5/31/2011 3:13:31 AM

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Gir wrote:
Trick =

Squeeze your jug until it comes up to the top, then siphon off. which is =

Squeeze both sides pretty hard and the water level will rise ^. once it gets to a certain point, you can siphon off the top. Its all hit and miss, basically just have your baster straight up and down, and barely touching the surface of the water. I know its annoyingly difficult (specially for gir who doesnt have steady hands [lucky wifey does]) but youll get it with patience. You can also decant the last little bit by pouring it into your jar, then siphoning the naptha out of that.

Double Decanting for the win.

hope it helps

-gir



this is THE trick, you wouldn't believe the epiphany i had when i discovered this myself.. LOL


btw,
Lots of good info here, some of it will definitely be incorporated into my extraction method.
Thanks!
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#35 Posted : 6/1/2011 5:53:07 PM

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#36 Posted : 6/1/2011 6:43:32 PM

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Congratulations on the white flakes of DMT porn. I was completely shocked to see them displayed in a piece of paper. like a centrefold with a blade and beercap next to them. Call it DMT pimping, if you like..ha ha!!Wink
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#37 Posted : 6/4/2011 2:21:56 PM
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elofer wrote:
elofer feels that anyone who has a wife that will share this magnificent experience with is a BLESSED BLESSED BLESSED beyond measure SWIY indeed!! GIR'S swim is truly a fortunate one!



I agree with this wholeheartedly! I found an amazing woman who I wanted to spend the rest of my life with (feelings which she reciprocates, luckily!) before I discovered psychedelics. She has shared in most of these experiences with me, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Having someone who you understand and who understands you to that depth when you're under the influence of these amazing molecules is priceless beyond words.

That said, great thread gir! Thanks for the concise information! I'm wondering, does anyone know at what temp freeze precipitation occurs? I have a pretty crappy freezer that JUST freezes icecream. I'm wondering if this will be insufficient for the task?
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#38 Posted : 6/13/2011 3:30:17 PM
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great picture post!

Wondering, is 1.5L of water needed? if less was used, what effect would this have?
 
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#39 Posted : 6/13/2011 6:05:04 PM

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Tropical wrote:
Wondering, is 1.5L of water needed? if less was used, what effect would this have?

You can use less, but with the basic solution being thicker it takes longer to separate from your solvent. I think some solvent can also get stuck when the solution is thicker. When I used to do STB I used to use 1.6L/100g.
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#40 Posted : 2/13/2012 8:20:23 PM

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I love this thread , perfecto Smile

I do my extractions almost the same way , minus dog and cat Smile
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