This flashed to me all at once while reading through the experiences forum

My first trip had a very special feel to it. Almost introductory in feeling. I was guided through many spaces at once and allowed to see that I was just beginning work with this teacher.

It was like, I was being instructed on what to do and be prepared for in future trips.

strange I know, I feel crazy for typing this !

but I can't fight the feeling I got it was like...

HELLO YOUR ONLY BEGINNING NOW WERE GOING TO DOWNLOAD THE UNIVERSE INTO YOUR BRAIN

seriously. It was intense.

But the question I pose after this rambling is this:

Did you have an "introductory" experience when you first tried spice or any form of this molecule?

Was there a point in your experiences when you did have some kind of awakening like this?

My journeys followed a sequence of introductory events. From first seeing a blue/serpentine/undulating,morphing machine, to a portal with instructions to get through the portal to an invite from a female entity and then I broke through and endured a series of journeys where I was being programmed for hyperspace.

I was physically programmed directly in my brain with probes in eyes and ears, I was also ripped apart, raped and eaten.

Then I was loved.

So yes, there was a introductory period of nearly 6 months of cold, hard adjustment before I even got a glimmer of what pleasures lay beyond.

To this day, even though all my journeys in the last 6 months have been nothing but awesome, I shit in my panties at the thought of going inside.

Awesome!

I'm hoping to be able to increase my journeys soon. Integration has been getting easier and easier. but I'll let the teachers tell me when is best

Yes, there does seem to be a progression – an intelligent progression – that takes place with continued use.

Where does it lead?

Definitely a progression, with completely different levels of access after lessons have been integrated. Antrocles has mentioned he notes it as entering a new, terrifying space -> acclimating to the space -> integration

Enlightenment?
To another level?

I wonder the same thing.



Interesting. I can definitely relate to this "new, terrifying space" feeling sometimes.

good replies ! keep em comin!

This is very true for me as well...Time and again I thought, surely THAT time was a breakthru...I realized that it was simply stages ..Gotta crawl first...then baby steps and all the while a perfect mix of amazement, fear and knowledge to keep you trying...Lately it seems as tho there is an abundance of people wanting to break land speed records right out of the gate...Please people...a little patience and take time for integration

Aether

"It is better to travel well than to arrive. " - Buddha

I agree with Aether...the joy should be in the journey..
not simply in reaching a destination...

Ghostman - how many times did you dose in those first 6 months? smoked or eaten or both? changa or vaped spice?

thanks,
JBArk

Yep, there was definitely some sort of progression here too. Firstly I had Shipibo indian type designs (like the kind they weave into their textiles), and as I started upping the doses to find where the proper level was I found I could track where I was when I was riding the peak (sort of like the first explorations into space, where people got blasted up on a trajectory that took them into space, but not into orbit.) "See, that wasn't so bad"

Then as I continued on with my explorations I got initiated by a woman made out of stars, who reached out to touch my face (as if to comfort me) and plant something like a red flower or a dart in my forehead. That was pretty cool I keep experiencing recurring themes of evolution nowadays, and how with the proper intent and will we could pretty much shape our lives however we want, and start to create a new society ourselves instead of waiting for others to do it for us.

I think it's common to any drugs to have a sort of "breaking in" period before understanding the spectrum of the effects. Although none of my experiences were introductory in nature (guided by entities, etc.) there definitely was a progression by which I became more comfortable and the experiences became more integrated.

YES!!!


It was such a special experience i haven't posted it... this was some months ago. I near immediately threw up my first true ayahuasca and knew the journey a dud when i heard a quite voice say "stay" as i hunched on the floor next to the trash can.

I then entered a four-way golden brick gateway as i heard "Pomp and Circumstance" (the graduation theme) play and received a tour of a few techno-winebars of the future, and then i saw a Guardian sitting on a folding chair in a vague dark room looking like an "Agent" and pretending to be a memory (which i called him on and he seemed surprised and disappeared).


I then saw two green dots and was told to "please focus on this." i did and they quickly vanished. Then i saw a giant spinning plastic clown puppet and was soon dreamily walking through an empty theme park with this crazy arcade music! My walk lasted for 30s and then i slowly floated up again like in a hot air balloon. As i rose i looked bellow and saw about 10-15 people walking in from the sides and joining in the center. They were a diverse group of humans and were all smiling and waving a warm goodbye! They vanished as a faint set of fractals pulling away from me, and i returned.


it was a slight, but a tremendously touching experience...

Did you ever think about giving up after what most people would consider a series of very, very difficult experiences? Were these experiences of being ripped apart etc one after the other of these and then 6 months later you had a pleasurable experience?
That would have taken a lot of mental stamina to go through! Or were they not "scary" per se with being eaten and torn, like not entirely terrifying? Did you ever think maybe you wouldn't see the light at the end?

Sorry for the long string of questions, its just your post addressed my deepest fear of venturing into hyperspace- that I will have a terrifying, uncomfortable experience and then not want to explore the realms anymore...

Hi JBArk,

In those 6 months I used 300g Mimosa and I would say I had about 1.5-2g of freebase. Although I don't remember the exact number of doses, I would estimate 30-40. It was all pure freebase vaping, i only discovered Changa after I had a truly mind-shattering experience that left me cold.

I have tried freebase since, but it still feels lacking in something. I much prefer changa and enhanced leaf although by no means are the breakthroughs lacking in magnitude. I have never taken it orally, but I am due an Ayahuasca ceremony on 11 June.

I am currently on a hiatus from Spice as I am still integrating those journeys.

I had read many trip reports where people were going on about love and overwhelming joy and I simply couldn't understand where they were getting their information from.

I was really questioning my motives and struggled to understand why I was putting myself through it all. It wasn't all terrifying, there was a lot of awesome quantum, jimjam pinball going on and visits to triptamine palaces.

What got to me though was that the same entities were always there and they were doing slight of hand things to distract me while others worked on my brain and things like that. It played with me, it would scare the life out of me one day and then the next it would play with me. Even when it played it was menacing and I had to be careful.

I see now that it was like a training module, although there were times I ended up somewhere I really shouldn't have!

I could not see an end to it and actually did not believe some of the reports I was reading here.

I had one very, very intense trip that was so integrated at the time, the biggest and most profound trip to date where my serpent guardian held my head in place with a probe in my right eye and one in my left ear. She then opened my head and started downloading a program. She was tapping out a code, like morse on my leg, but first telepathically telling me what the code meant, saying 'oh, you think that's weird.... check this out' then the next code would be tapped out.

All the while my Joker had a hoola-hoop time machine and for the first time ever he slowed things down to Planck time.

It was so real, it really freaked me out. That put me off for a few weeks, and then I tried Changa.

Caapi leaf Changa was not any easier as the spirit of the serpent was too strong. I had these serpents tasting my with their tongues, hundreds of them tasting me, sniffing my face. I worked through it.

Then I discovered Electric Sheep and BANG. It loved me, God, what a relief. It was the first time I felt any universal love and it was literally orgasmic. I never had a bad trip since. Electric Sheep and Golden Temporal (Caapi, Pau d'Arco) love me. I've had truly, unspeakably beautiful journey's on these blends.

Even though It's been 8 months since I had that freaky journey and I have ONLY had most excellent journey's since, my blood runs cold at the thought of blasting off.

So instead of trying to fight it, I am going with the flow of abstinance and really using this time to integtrate the massive healing I received throughout the entire process.

It was all sequential and I feel I am still threading the tapestry.

To answer your question though it was all learning for me. Learning about timing, intention and state of mind and heart. Also, freebase DMT is a very different beast and I think it's actually all about the add-mixture. I would definitely recommend making Changa. Try freebase though, so that you know the differences.

It's intensely personal and I can see that it was communicating with me in a very special way. You need to trust yourself and surrender. Even when I got soul-raped and picked apart and eaten there was nothing I could do. It was like I was poisoned and immobilized. None of it hurts physically, it's just weird. I was even rewarded afterwards, lol. They gave me a great big orb of light to sing to. It changed frequency at my voice.

You need to be careful not to assimilate other people's trip reports. This is why you should actually stay away from reading them for a while if you are anxious about going in. Fill you mind and heart with peace and love and you will be fine.

So many times though, I prepare myself and I smudge, and I discard all ill feeling etc and when I blast off they tell me to leave everything i brought with me behind, including the peace and love and good intentions and to just be, just observe, it's like none of it is necessary. They're like 'why so obsessive compulsive? you don't need that where you're going....whoooosh'

Next stop, Ayahuasca.

Peace and Love!