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omegabrolly
#1 Posted : 5/9/2010 11:30:56 PM
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Hello everyone,

I would like to properly introduce myself as this is my first time posting on this forum. You may refer to me as "omega" if you so may please. I wish to begin by giving you a little background information on myself, well when relating to entheogens anyways.. I had a few experiences with pot and shrooms when I was young, but only in the past few years have I truly begun my deviation off of the path of let us say "normal" people. Now I am not the type to put labels or limitations on anything, but for the sake of my rant I will require the use of such words. After graduating school and even when in the institution I could never find any motivation to do anything so I wandered around alot, going through relationships, jobs, friends searching for the reason why I was living. Then one day I stumbled upon DMT through my chemistry class in University, my lab partner was one to talk alot about drugs but ironically had very few experiences with them. And so one day we came to talk about this drug that was supposably very easy to synthetise and yet would create a very short but yet ridiculously intense trip. Now I for one was very interested, and here began my "evolution". Within 2 years, I had experienced approximately 30 DMT trips, about 5 high dose trips (4-7 gramms) of liberty caps.

I must say that such experiences, wether you wish to admit to it or not, do change you; And I a on did not get so lucky as to get only good change. I went from bad to worse before I started coming back up, such things broke me and forced me to rethink EVERYTHING... And here I am today, a new man. But is that a good thing you ask? I say things are neither good or evil, white or black..blah blah blah What I am trying to say is that people seem so are stupid to me, yet through my reflections I realized that we as humans are really not that far away from the animals we live amongst. And so I wonder what is our next step in evolution, if our physical bodies area getting weaker and smaller then that would point to some other form of evolution if not a physical one then maybe spiritual..

The true point of my egotistical discussion is that at this day in time, I feel as though I have risen above the cattle of humans and that I have become something else (Obviously I am not referring to a physical transformation).
People are like insects to me now, I feel as though they are undeserving of my help. Everything that is screwed up in the world has been created and maintained by everyone who complains about how it doesn't work. I cannot stand these hypocrites anymore, and as such I have decided to work on a self made project which shall free me from the system of society. I will let them destroy, rape and kill each other if they so wish, but I will not take part in it. I would like to say good luck to all the others who might be following my path or some other which strays amongst that of the true light.
 

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#2 Posted : 5/9/2010 11:47:56 PM

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Creepy.

What exactly is the nature of your project?
 
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#3 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:04:59 AM

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omegabrolly wrote:
...The true point of my egotistical discussion is that at this day in time, I feel as though I have risen above the cattle of humans and that I have become something else (Obviously I am not referring to a physical transformation).
People are like insects to me now, I feel as though they are undeserving of my help.

Your discussion is indeed egotistical.

Your situation serves as a cautionary tale for all of us. It shows that psychedelics don’t automatically provide enlightenment and clarity. They don’t automatically lead one down the proper path.

For your own sake and for the sake of those close to you, I hope that you’re able to break free from your delusions of grandeur and see things more clearly.
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#4 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:05:58 AM
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#5 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:24:01 AM

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omegabrolly wrote:

The true point of my egotistical discussion is that at this day in time, I feel as though I have risen above the cattle of humans and that I have become something else (Obviously I am not referring to a physical transformation).

People are like insects to me now, I feel as though they are undeserving of my help. Everything that is screwed up in the world has been created and maintained by everyone who complains about how it doesn't work. I cannot stand these hypocrites anymore, and as such I have decided to work on a self made project which shall free me from the system of society. I will let them destroy, rape and kill each other if they so wish, but I will not take part in it. I would like to say good luck to all the others who might be following my path or some other which strays amongst that of the true light.


'omega' - fucking hell, where to start. If you think "people are like insects", or "cattle" you are ignorant and deluded. And hey - why is it exactly you think anyone wants your help, sunshine? You don't sound to me like you have much to offer - except the ravings of a self=obsessed juvenile so sure of him/herself you think everyone else is wrong. Certainly not compassion, eh? Think about it.

Whatever your project is, don't fucking hurt anyone, okay? Because if you think that's the answer, you're asking the wrong question. Get a grip. And grow the fuck up.

And PS - I doubt you'll find many people here 'following your path'
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#6 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:31:14 AM

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gibran2 wrote:
Your situation serves as a cautionary tale for all of us. It shows that psychedelics don’t automatically provide enlightenment and clarity.

 
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#7 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:35:41 AM

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88 wrote:
omegabrolly wrote:
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'omega' - fucking hell, where to start. If you think "people are like insects", or "cattle" you are ignorant and deluded. And hey - why is it exactly you think anyone wants your help, sunshine? You don't sound to me like you have much to offer - except the ravings of a self=obsessed juvenile so sure of him/herself you think everyone else is wrong. Certainly not compassion, eh? Think about it.

Whatever your project is, don't fucking hurt anyone, okay? Because if you think that's the answer, you're asking the wrong question. Get a grip. And grow the fuck up.

And PS - I doubt you'll find many people here 'following your path'


Please be less harsh in your response and leave out the swearing. Being constructive and staying polite will always bring more information to the other side. Pleased


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#8 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:36:33 AM

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The things that these things show us arent always easy..not well defined as "good" or "bad"..nothing is black and white..transformation isnt always preaty(look at caterpillars-butterflys)..

Id say you missed the point. You would rather look down with hate and pessimistic judgement, effectivly boxing yourself into a corner where you will get nowhere but lonely..instead of realizing life for the beautiful thing that it is, and just dance around in joy, connect with others and at least TRY to stand for one second in their shoes..

How do you want to be treated? Do you want others to look down on you like you are some piece of crap insignificant insect?..with them dumping their own negativity all over you, just becasue they think they are now somehow above you? I doubt it..youd prob be quite put off by that and expect some level of acceptance from them..instead of judgment.

Treat others the way you want to be treated..you will get so much farther in life. People dont rspond well to negative attitudes.
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#9 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:39:28 AM

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omegabrolly, it seems you're having a lot of problems with integration. You express such a strong sense of dissasociation from other humans, such ingrained anger, it sounds like a very very unhealthy and negative reality-tunnel or world-view. If psychedelics do for you at least a little of what they do to me, then they should definitely also try to show you that on our inner development paths, we HAVE to be self-critical. You talk about everybody else as the problem, but what are you doing to help ? Are you being the change you want to see in the world, as ghandi so correctly suggested? Are you respectful and compassionate with others as you would like them to be to you? Are you patient, do you recycle all your garbage, are you eating healthily, do you exercise, are you a conscious consumer, are you being non-wasteful, are you being productive, etc etc?

Instead of blasting out on others with such anger, try to see how to use this energy into becoming better yourself.

Lastly, and I mean this with no offense, but maybe it would do you good to seek some professional help, some open minded psychiatrist or psychologist who can help you with integrating your experiences. Try to contact MAPS, maybe they can help you out with finding good doctors that dont have an aversion/prejudice against the psychedelic experience.
 
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#10 Posted : 5/10/2010 12:42:28 AM

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The Traveler wrote:
88 wrote:
omegabrolly wrote:
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'omega' - fucking hell, where to start. If you think "people are like insects", or "cattle" you are ignorant and deluded. And hey - why is it exactly you think anyone wants your help, sunshine? You don't sound to me like you have much to offer - except the ravings of a self=obsessed juvenile so sure of him/herself you think everyone else is wrong. Certainly not compassion, eh? Think about it.

Whatever your project is, don't fucking hurt anyone, okay? Because if you think that's the answer, you're asking the wrong question. Get a grip. And grow the fuck up.

And PS - I doubt you'll find many people here 'following your path'


Please be less harsh in your response and leave out the swearing. Being constructive and staying polite will always bring more information to the other side. Pleased


Kind regards,

The Traveler


Point taken - my apologies
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#11 Posted : 5/10/2010 1:27:01 AM

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Welcome to the DMT-Nexus!

Looking forward to hearing more about your project!
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#12 Posted : 5/10/2010 11:18:39 AM
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UniverseCannon wrote:
omegabrolly wrote:
I will let them destroy, rape and kill each other if they so wish, but I will not take part in it. I would like to say good luck to all the others who might be following my path or some other which strays amongst that of the true light.


And are you actually going to do our struggling world any good, wake anyone up out of their illusions, by spewing this egotistical negativity and heading for the hills like some elite coward too divine to help the undeserving world? Of course not. That is absolutely insane.


I don't agree with omega, but this is my issue with "spiritual" people of all kinds. You have Buddhist (and Hindu) hermits sitting in huts, meditating constantly, apparently "for the betterment of all life" but what does it achieve? Nothing. Absolutely. Nothing. Its just a starving hermit sitting in a hill somewhere doing nothing. They might reach enlightenment, but then what? Teach other people how to be mountain hermits? Its a crock in my opinion. Sure there have been many spiritual people have done great things for mankind, but sadly this seems to be the exception.

I don't know, I think it would be better to forget about grandiose ideas about enlightenment altogether and actually HELP other living people. Meh.
 
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Please don't shut yourself up from the rest of the world, it's not a healthy way to live. I've tried to do it but failed. I think your project is something like "I'll live in a forest hut". Well, you can try to see the good things in people instead and try to make them rise as you have risen. This is the path of light and love and it will reward you.

much love and good luck on your way!!
 
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#14 Posted : 5/10/2010 4:13:16 PM

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omegabrolly wrote:
Hello everyone,

I would like to properly introduce myself...only in the past few years have I truly begun my deviation off of the path of let us say "normal" people...I could never find any motivation to do anything so I wandered around alot, going through relationships, jobs, friends searching for the reason why I was living...one day I stumbled upon DMT...within 2 years, I had experienced approximately 30 DMT trips, about 5 high dose trips (4-7 gramms) of liberty caps.

[P]eople seem so...stupid to me...so I wonder what is our next step in evolution, if our physical bodies area getting weaker and smaller then that would point to some other form of evolution if not a physical one then maybe spiritual...

The true point of my egotistical discussion is that...I feel as though I have risen above the cattle of humans and that I have become something else [in spirit]...People are like insects to me now...they are undeserving of my help. Everything that is screwed up in the world has been created and maintained by everyone who complains about how it doesn't work. I cannot stand these hypocrites anymore...I will let them destroy, rape and kill each other if they so wish, but I will not take part in it.

I edited out some of the filler in your post so the true point of your message was more accessible. I hope you don't mind, I made it quite apparent where I edited so that your words could not be said to have been taken out of context.

Essentially you have decided this is a world of compromise and pain. Somehow you have determined YOU are an individual who lives so entirely without compromise that you are free to demean and judge your peers because of their position as "cattle" and your obvious "superiority". You seem to have had some internal revelation about your "growth" or "evolution" yet what you describe sounds antithetical to those concepts as I understand them. So, somehow, your self-determined "enlightenment" has led you to conclude not that you can benefit your fellow man, but that you can live non-hypocritically by removing yourself from society and depriving your fellow man of your "gifts".




I say good riddance

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I'm quite surprised about the harsh responses to Omega's post.
He hasn't done anything wrong and does not say he's about to.

But escaping the world to a cave or whatever will not work. You are here to learn and deal with life. And people are lessons. People behaving like insects or what ever can teach us valuable lessons.
Be in the world but not of the world. Don't judge and be ready to help those that need help to see the light.

Good luck,
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We're all responsible for everyone.

I think our society has been based on self-gratification, where our self is the focus. Perhaps the next step in our evolution is to turn that self-centeredness outwards.

I tripped with a friend this weekend, and got into some emotional state where "I" was the focus of my trip. It was a battle with myself, one I've experience on another trip before. And it's a reason I don't like to trip alone, but even being with a friend this time, the battle was on.

Anyways, I can really tear myself up when during that experience, to the point it is maddening.

What I've come to realize is that I do it to myself. There were times in the trip where this battle with I was maddening. And then it would dissipate. And then start again. Rolling in waves, never knowing when its coming or when its going. But it would always start with some question that I would ask myself, and it would snowball from there as a result of me trying to answer the question.

What did I learn from that? That I am my own worst enemy. And when I beat myself up like that, then I am making no progress towards what I believe is a better state of mind. That state of mind being that when I trip with a friend, then we should enjoy the experience.

The whole night we tripped, I was very silent because of this. And interestingly enough, when I came down from the trip - she started coming up. Almost as if the mushrooms decided it would be better for both of us to have a sober sitter for what turned out to be individual experiences.
 
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Omega trust me most people who have been deep into psychedelics for some time came to the point where u are standing at the moment. I dont blame you.. most thing you say about human is right may be. But if you ask me you just need some more time to analyze this reality and come to a more clear conclusion for urself. I have never been the optimist guy to cheer ppl up with bullshit.

I and also nexus people have experienced many cases like yours, even worst cases may be, like "I am the god and u are my illusion"... But heres a friendly advice for u, take thigs easy, If there is gud and evil and white and black as u say and they dont make sense because the life itself started from a chaos and it still is a chaos, accept this reality with all the differences , learn to find ur way in this chaos without hurting urself or others.

If you ask me u need to have more soccial relations, and quit ur ultra-egoistical feelings a bit. Because if u want the truth, we are monkeys living on a planet, we dont know where we came from and where we are going. we will stay no longer than a fart in this reality, and we should learn to respect eachother because we are the juice of the same shit.

Most of people here have been from the ways ur just going, long time ago. But ur direction tells me that ur gonna loose ur path soon if u go with this logic. I dont wanna keep it longer really. Last thing i wanna say:

Love urself and this reality as a whole... and enjoy every breathe u take while u have the time

Peace.
 
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My prediction is that you have had revelations and self awakening epiphanies through the use of psychedelics and introspection that has given you a glance of a perspective where you are viewing the world and all its people from a 'higher' or lets say a isometric view from above. No doubt your experiences let you see beyond the symbolistic world we live in and has shaken your conditioning of your entire life. You have taken a drug that excels at freeing your mind from the usual self-immersed experience, one of the first steps of self actualization; however, if you were taking DMT just to get high you may have introduced yourself to a perfect path of lost and confusing self destruction or one of absolute freedom. It is not rare or 'unlucky' to see someone gain this insight and than close themselves off from the 'less understanding' world. Find that untapped motivating potential from within and go on a inner journey of finding out who you are (and consequently who others are). which overtime will bring you to a present moment of bliss, understanding, and compassion/love for others as you realize in this 3rd dimension space/time existence you may not be as separate from your external environment and not as alone as you may think now, just scratching the surface of a face value illusion.

Only YOU can decide that if your present being and state of mind now is a infinite plateau, or if it is only masked and is truly just one step of many to your own personal enlightenment. You do not need to understand how to reach it or how about to start, only to be willing and have the pure intentions and expectations for something more than just this. If you can do that, 'it' WILL come to you. Since I do not personally know you, I do not know if you would take a path of expanding your consciousness indefinitely or if you will settle with your present state of being now. Stereotypically the next path would be one of self destruction and a not so happy experience of existence. But even if that happens, your still on the plateau and can turn it into your stairs at any given moment of choice.

Regardless, by mistake or not, you took a powerful medicine that has brought you to this state. Most would be taking DMT as a tool to bring their mind to a free state (free from conditioning, stereotypes, petty drama, etc etc) where they can work on personal enlightenment. Im getting the feeling you used it not intentionally for this, which would explain some of the underlying reasoning for your post; however, ironically you are now given the opportunity of a life time that so few are blessed with in our modern day way of life.

Should I say Goodluck?
 
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MooshyPeaches - no offense, but my eyes are bleeding! I'd love to read your post but the non-standard text color and font is too much.
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