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Just wondering if anyone has experimented with the various JWH chains and could give some feedback on the qualitative differences between them. I know 18 and 73 have been most widely used in commercial blends but was curious about 200, 81, etc.
I'm really looking for a comparison of the different compounds. Is one more potent than another, more or less visual, any one that would be considered superior?...I'm looking at purchasing a small amount but I'm not sure which one would be "best".
I know they are attributed with paranoia and nausea but MJ does the same to me so if theres one that seems to have a less pronounced P&N effect that would be better.
And finally anyone dealt with a reputable distributer stateside they would recommend? Theres plenty of places selling it but not sure if one is to be trusted more and obviously not wanting to take the stiff one on this.
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to share information.
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Swim only has experience with 018, and its pretty damn potent. Swim od'd on this stuff and had to try to hold it together for a few hours, so be careful and use a mg scale every time. Also be advised that it takes longer than MJ to kick in, maybe 5+ minutes you'll start to notice effects. So if you dont feel it right away, just wait, cause you could easily overdo it by re-dosing too soon. It does resemble mj effects, but theres something missing. Swim has heard of others mixing 018 and 073 to get the desired effect. The universe is an infinite harmony of vibrating beings in an elaborate range of expansion-contraction ratios, frequency modulations, and so forth.
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Quote:Also be advised that it takes longer than MJ to kick in, maybe 5+ minutes you'll start to notice effects. So if you dont feel it right away, just wait, cause you could easily overdo it by re-dosing too soon. Swim seconds this. you definitely have to wait for it to kick in or you will most likely end up accidentally overdosing. and believe me its not fun. On the other hand, if its used properly and at the right dose Swim finds JWH-018 to be a very nice high, quite comparable to marijuana. All above posts are absolutely fictional and have nothing to do with actual reality whatsoever. If you are waiting for "that moment", that moment is now.
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Moderator wrote:We do not appreciate questions about suppliers of RCs here. Not in the forums, not in PMs, and not in chat. Please keep it at other arenas of discussion. Thank you! -Evening Glory
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From I've heard 018 is the most potent and 073 is the most like pot. The most euphoric and fun. With the others falling closely behind these 2.
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jwh-018. i get a mine from someone, who ads it to the plant base for me, so can't comment on the dose, although anything over 4mg seems like a mistake to me since this stuff can be very unpleasant if you over do it. but when you get the dose right it is pretty good. missing some of the happyness i get from weed, but much more trippy. lasts for about 1 hour, and then another hour of fade. strongest one i have tried, do not over do this, and eyeballing seems like a huge mistake to me, i did it once and would never do it again.
jwh-073: much milder, much less potent, anywhere from 9-12mg is a good dose, this is one that i will occasionally eyeball, because it has alot more room for error, can be a bit trippy, but no paranoia, last about 30 min for me, with an hour of fade. if i've smoked weed in the last couple of days i can't get anything from this one.
as far as mixing them, i've never been able to notice a huge difference, the stronger one usually overpowers the weaker one, but then i've never been one who was really able to super analyze my highs.
jhw-250: this is a strong one, nearly as strong as 018 4-5mg is a good dose, strong trippyness that lasts for 30 minutes, and then about an hour fade, the hour after the main high is still pretty good though, this one has more of the happy relaxed feelings that 018 is missing. this one is pretty good.
jwh - 081: the high from this one is medium strength, no paranoia, very relaxed and happy, the main high last for 30 minutes and then 1-2 hours of fade that is still pretty good. smoking too much of this one makes my body feel like it is pulsing in an uncomfortable way, and taking this one orally and mixing with alcohol is not good, racing heart rate shaking, stick to smoking it. other than that this one is pretty good. 5-6mg is a good dose.
jwh - 200: this one is very weak, in fact i have never really gotten high from it, just mild relaxation, gave up at a 12mg dose. i would skip this one, plus it seems to weigh less, so 12mg is actually a decent amount of material, and don't care to smoke this much of a chemical
Quoting from another forum site I ran across--- in case any others are interested. Obviously can't vouch for accuracy but buddy seems pretty legit. Found a site that accepted paypal so hopefully they're on the level. Also got a bit of Blue Lotus to apply it to assuming all goes well. Just went with the 18 but thinking I might prefer the 250 assuming I can find it.
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the 018 is indeed strong swim's better half had a rough experience last night. she started tripping, and wanted it to go away. swim advised her to ride it out, and gave her 40mg propranolol. 10 mins after taking it, she calmed down*. the experience lasted about 3 hours, but the inderal killed the anxiety. *note: this was not placebo effect. she was convinced that propranolol would make it worse she thought it would have an opposite effect. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
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I've already apologized to Admin, but just making an open apology to forum and community. I didn't know that it was against forum policy to request supplier recommendations on RC's, I wasn't trying to violate or disturb. My apologies to all that it may have bothered, and it won't happen again...at least not by me.
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swim tried jwh-210 and it's very good almost sativa buzz he would say like a 70-80% sativa weed.. the worst thing is the mouth dryness,if you doesn't borrow a water bottle you are fucked  Tz'is aná
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Harvie Krumpet
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Went through ~20g of JWH-018 in an 8 month period. Got to the point where he would need 15-20mg every 2-4 hours to feel satisfied. He was at it like a crack addict. His girlfriend knew about his use and actually preferred him using it over weed (she hates the smell of resin). Her attitude changed because of two events. One was when she read an NCBI article about a teenager who displayed withdrawal symptoms after smoking JWH-018 habitually. The second was when her boyfriend had somewhat of an asthma attack after a huge dose. He was just laying in bed but still was unable to take deep enough or fast enough breaths to shake the feeling of hypoxia (it was like trying to breathe on top of a mountain or other high altitude place). It was like his lungs were coated with glue. Anyone who uses the foil and dollar bill method of JWH administration can understand what he means (ever seen a foil or dollar bill after repeated JWH use? They're coated with black-orange goo). She had to give him a bronchodilator to help him breathe again. Luckily his girlfriend intervened, flushed everything and helped him through the withdrawal (which sucks btw). This was a good thing since he had to cease his use eventually. He hasn't used any synthetic cannabinoids in over a month and to be honest, he thought his language skills would have shown more improvement than he's seen. In a way, he feels broken. SWIM sends out this advice only to those who are willing to ingest large amounts of novel synthetic cannabinoids (because everyone else shouldn't need it): be careful. Every tool is dangerous when misused. That is no reason not to use tools.
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