SWIM has a boyfriend, and trust me he is not smoking wrong, he amazed everyone at the rave we were at.

Ok so swims boyfriend doesnt even get close to breaking thru or even close to a crazy DMT trip,
cause swim took a hit of some spice on top of weed and swim couldnt even hit it again cause swim and friends never get to do dmt alot. ANYWAYS so yeah it comes to swims boyfriend and i told the guy who was giving us the DMsters and he repacked a huge bowl for him.

and he hit it
held
nothing
did it agiain
and again

hit it a total of 6 times

big smoke and all

and like he said,

sounded more like acid

little things kindda moving

WTF

everyone was stunned

and that wasnt trhe first time

SWIM made dmt

and he tried, nothing

did some again a week before that,

and then some at the same time it was my first time,

everyone else tripped balllllllls but him

whats going on?

thanks!

was he burning all the dmt with the lighter?
when i smoked out of a pipe it was easy to see that much of the spice was lost to the flame.(way too much dmt was lost per experience)
dont let the flame (even) NEAR the spice.

is he normally intolerant to drugs?

is he really hitting the pipe? (everyone else,yourself aswell, could be too fucked up to notice)

i really dont think we can help you out if waht you say is true.

place a large heaping pile(80+mg) of the stuff in a bowl/bong, light that grass and give it 3 huge rips.
if this don't work,,,,, who knows.

is he on any medication?

SWIMS friend was there making sure he was hitting right any everything

hes not on any meds,

he knows how to smoke i mean the hits were huge,

they made sure they were smoking it right,

and siwm actually asked him and it was 8+ hits.

siwms friend who gave the spice was jaw dropped,

everyone was O.o

and i smoked it the same way,

and even lightered it for him,

and the time before that he smoked ALOT

he just doesnt get anything out of it.

He did it two times being sober,

nothing

he was on molly

nothing

and he was on acid and e

nothing

he trips from acid and shrooms but not DMT

and swim know he was lightering it right

cause two of the times swim did it.

and swim know it was good DMT

cause swim fucking tripped

and two of swims other friends

no one could belive it

and the guy who had it

got it for free from his friends

and he put ALOT

we cant seem to find out whats wrong.

siwm also remembers he ate before one of the times

so siwm made him fast for the next

swims thinking should swim have him take a maoi?

whats goin on?

anyone else ever had this problem?

hwelppppppppp

hes on no meds, hes smoking it right, and no one knows whats up?

*the only thing he said he felt was really high, but thats only when its on weed, and the most he sees is like when your on a weak acid trip, and you kinda see the bugs under the skin thing...*

wtf O.O

oh and swim knows he hitting cause simw makes sure hes completley inhailing and theres lots of smoke *hella smells of spice* and plus he really wants to have a DMT trip (((((((

maybe he should try on a totally clean head no weed no drugs for a couple days.

how long is he holding it? its possible he's just not getting the smoke down.
otherwise, dmt is not a straightforward drug; sometimes it works other times, nothing. in SWIM's experience large hits have been taken (multiple times even) and nothing has occured. who knows the specific biological reason for this oddity but it seems more appropriate to accept that sometimes it happens rather than find a specific answer. the same seems to go more for acid and mushrooms. they're unpredictable.

also let's not forget set and setting. it is possible (to some extent) to keep oneself from breaking through. if a person is overly anxious or highly stressed at the moment they won't not be able to let go enough to trip, especially to the extent with dmt. setting may be preventing him aswell.. maybe there's too much social pressure and too high expectations.. Swim's first experience with Salvia and mushrooms was extactly this. everyone around him talked the experience up so much that he found it difficult to experience the effects for himself.

if the guy the feels comfortable enough to take 8 consecutive hits perhaps he should try it on his lonesome. Maybe this will help him breakthrough.

Even with burning a little spice, being in public, and poor smoking technique, 8 hits should have demolished him. I have read similar accounts, one of them the person would have to use rue to get anywhere. Spice sensitivity seems to vary in a single person quite a bit with the time of day, no doubt it varies person to person quite a bit as well.

i have experienced the same a couple times. everything should be working, even my eyes get saucered, but i feel the exactly same as before the trip.

hes on antidepressants, i'll bet.

if not, then his brain just doesn't have receptors for dmt...which i highly doubt. try vaporising it, burning tends to loose most of the spice.

omg SWIM knows hes not them,
were dating,
and havent been apart for more then 24hours,
But swim mean swim understand the set and setting
but swim means if swim rememebr right,
hes been in good places to trip before, day and night,
and one of the times dosing alot
he had not done any drugs at all for about a week
Its just hard cause he gets sad that all of us trip and he doesnt

and he really didnt know anything about it when swim had him try it

swim just told him it makes you trip

and he got nothing
and he saw me and my friend tom tripping

so just because of something that has to do with him,
could be why he doesnt trip?

absolutely, the central nervous system is a very complicated place. he may have a high tolerance to dmt even. who knows? also, creating an environment where he feels like an outsider because he can't breakthrough isn't going to help him trip. by why this intense fixation on him tripping aswell? if he can't trip, he can't. it's sad but its the truth. his body is different than yours. both of you should accept that. forcing it won't help.

Site, mood, setting, motivation, etc can all be factors hindering or enhancing break throughs. Personally, I have never found it anything but easy to break through and all the above mentioned conditions are superfluous to me. I can do it anywhere under almost any condition. I attribute that to a fearless attitude I have towards the spice. My toking is aggressive and greedy. When I take the first hit, there is no space between subsequent tokes. I just hit it bam bam bam one after the other, until reality melts. The trick is getting the dose in as quickly as possible. Aggresive and greedy is the order of the day.

If you are doing all that and not getting through, your going to have to try alternative methods. Perhaps snortting some first, then hitting the pipe might be the way to go. If that also fails, then maybe you should consider an IV addministration.

So an MAOI wouldnt help

and is there no chance ayauasca would help?

but swim dont know we dont make him feel like a outsider

swim just tell him

swim hope someday you can break thru

but swim am thinking it was at a rave and he has fun there

but hes more of a "hardcore kid"

listens to that loud screaming music

and swim know if swim dont hear my music of choice

swim dont trip as hard

do you think maybe he would trip better in

a social invornment that hes more accustomed to

swim mean

he loves the rave scene

and he like the music at stilldream

but maybe something like

as i lay dieing or as blood runs black

*his type of music*

would put him in a better trip mood?

cause swim personaly dont like that music

because its so sad and down

and angry :/

but he says

he trips a little better

but not like

o.o

you know dmster trip

with his eyes closed...

could that be something?

maybe hes a better night tripper

or he should just be in the dark?

any info helps! thx

tripping at a rave sounds like a waste of dmt. and yes a more quiet environment would definately help him. as it would anyone.

and like magic clown said.. snorting and IVing are sure fire ways of taking DMT. neither I imagine are extremely pleasant forms of admistration, but hey they are effective!

huh well he has been in one...
hes been in every situation but
a hardcore show
quiet, at a rave, chill music,
but i dont think hes desperate to trip
as to going to lenghs as in IV or snorting O.o

thats a little to far

maois anyone? O.O

it's also been reported that some people are impervious to the effects of DMT... I think I've heard it reported 1/20

You need this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3JrCMrUAUw

An maoi might help, so long as he follows the guidelines dont see a reason he shouldnt try. He may have a suped up mao metabalism, in that case aya or pharma huasca might be in order for him to get anywhere.

Personally the best music is music that means something to the swimmer, be that hank williams, smashing pumpkins, tool, shpongle, floyd, or megadeth. Also the personality mask doesnt mean as much either, it takes all kinds.

Then again as said he may just be immune to the spice, good luck.


also might want to use paragraphs to make it easier on our eyes.

I might just add, that I under normal circumstances, I would never recomend IV administration. It was suggested more as a last resort for someone who has exhausted all other methods and still not broken through. There is a thread here somwhere on IVing DMT where I wrote extensively about my opinions about such practices.

As for tripping on spice at raves, with hard core trance music throbbing, Ive done it quite happily. I never considered it to be a waste. DMT is such a bizarre creature, it was fun to experiament with it in differant enviroments and conditions and as I said previously, I have no problems breaking through.

If I was having problems breaking through, I would find somwhere dark and quiet. I would be looking for no external stimuli. Alowing the spice to over whelm me with no outside distractions.