I recently had the pleasure of trying this (asofyet still legal) bzp derrivitave. designer synthetic hallucinogenic stimulant. The stimulant properties are mild at best; but omg... beautiful.

Its my new favourite drug. The body comfort of MDMA, with no big emotional gouchey feelings, a sense of energy, the visuals of acid (and more, added sparkles!) but with NO headfuck. I could have sat a maths exam.

lovely.

Just immagine that carebears might hug you to death. SOO fluffly. Perfect drug for about a million situations.

also, audio was significantly enhanced.

as of yet, its still legal.

so, im about to purchase 20g. at 100mg for a MAX dose, thats 200 trips.

p.s get the uncut stuff, IMHO bzp makes me feel a bit ill. Its quite crap.

w00t

odd

benzylpiperazines are not known for being hallucinogenic at all. they're stimulants

this thing is hardly a stimulant at all.
its not BZP either.

it's a phenylpiperazine derivative, which agonizes dopamine more than serotonin.
it is indeed stimulant

trypts > phens > piperazines

yo why don't you just take some instead of quoting the literature to me.
I KNOW its based on bzp, as I said in my first post.
Im telling you, this piperazine is *TRIPPY*AS*FUCK*.

Its hardly a stimulant at all.

k?

chill out.

lol
oh I'm chill, you're just preaching to the choir.
I've had mCPP. these piperazines are an 8 year old stimulant fad. I'll take 2CI (much trippier) over tmfpp any day of the week

frankly I don't think you know what you're talking about here.
if you've never tried it, Do.

its about to be made illegal, I beleive;
so im stocking up.

i've got some 2ci but im yet to try it; i've heard it takes ages
to come on but its pretty spectacular.

i think im gonna do 100mg tfmpp tonight to see what its like at
higher doses.

p.s its not an 8 year old fad, by any means. Yes,
its still legal in the rest of the world but only
because the US overreacted.

i beleive there is alot of potential with this drug
its very enjoyable.

by the way; mcpp blows.

read up:




Subject: 1-(3-Chlorophenyl)piperazine sales & info.
Author: wirehead@sb.net
Date: 1997/11/12
Forums: alt.drugs.chemistry, rec.drugs.chemistry


Well. Me and my poor lab technique! Whats a chemist to do?

You see I was measuring out 5 gram bottles of the latest addition to the
Chemical Resale of Santa Barbara catalog, 3-chlorophenylpiperazine. The
repetitive task set my mind to thinking of the Rolling Stones concert
that I would attend that evening, and somehow I accidentally spilled two
30 mg. portions of 3-CPP on two tacos that were laying beside the weigh
station. Silly me!

Well I ate one of the tacos. At just 30 mg., I did not taste the
spilled chemical and continued with my task. This was about 5:00 pm.

My very beautiful date arrived at about 5:15 and feeling hungry ate the
other tainted taco. My My My My!

The limo arrived to take us to Dodger Stadium at about 6:00. At this
point I realized that I must have accidentally ingested some 3-CPP. I
informed my beautiful date of the situation and we decided to make notes
about the experience.

By comparison, this chemical was not nearly as hallucinogenic as TFMPP,
but it had more MDMA like body feeling. There was definite mood
elevation after some slight nausea and body flushing that was similar to
a "niacin flush". After that, smooth sailing!

The chemical experience added to the concert, though a night club would
have been a better choice, had the ingestion been conscious. Oh well.

For researchers searching for legal substitutes for MDMA to use use on
their laboratory primates, I think this chemical will be useful.

3-CPP (3-cholorphenylpiperazine) is available from Chemical Resale of
Santa Barbara http://www.sb.net./wirehead for $97.00 for 5 grams.

Happy trails,

Tom Kasper, owner,
Chemical Resale of Santa Barbara
http://www.sb.net/wirehead

Ew, I've always had a strong dislike for all piperizines that I have tried. I really really enjoy mindfuck of serotonergic psychs, and really hate the body feelings and visual distortions that any pip. has given me.

I only tried BZP once and never had any inclanation to do it again. The come down was not worth the moderate buzz I got from it. The party pill shops in NZ also sold pills containing TMFPP I think Ive still got some knocking around somwhere but knowing its a pipperzine derivative I have no interest in it. As far as I am concerned its filthy horrible stuff.

I agree with Benzyme on this one, give me 2ci anyday. And Shoe, if your 2ci dosnt come on fairley quickly, its not 2ci I'm afraid.

SWIM used to enjoy taking a little BZP and smoking a few pipes of marijuana. nice warm buzz nothing too special but easy to handle.

let me stress, swims tried BZP and swims don't like it. Its horrible and nausiating, not good. Its great when its in stimulant mode, but it oges thru a transition and turns a bit hallucinogenic, and then swims don't like it he says.

BUT, TFMPP is quite different. QUITE. If you've not tried it purely because you think it might be 'like' bzp think agian, I urge you to give it a chance. swims just bought 5.3g of the stuff (50 trips)