Hello. I did a freeze precip in naphtha overnight. It was my first tek attempt. After taking out of the freezer, the naphtha was a very cloudy white. Does this mean there was a lot more spice in the naphtha? Or maybe the freezer wasn't cold enough?

Anyway, when I saw the white spots on the glass, I thought I had succeeded. I poured out the naphtha and tried to retreive the spice. But to my surprise, the white stuff was very sticky and resiny and gooey and much more difficult to isolate than I thought. It seemed to dissolve in to nothing when I touched it with anything and I felt like I was losing much spice. Also when I touched it, it turned from white to a yellow color, and I wondered if that was a chemical reaction.

I panicked and tried to retrieve as much as I could immediately, and a spoon actually worked better for me than a razor because it was so gooey. I seem to have only saved about 40mg of yellow goo which I put in an open gelcap, and let it dry. It turned in to a waxy texture in the gelcap, and melted the cap half way, and I don't know what effect the residual naphtha had on the gelcap, but hopefully most of the naphtha is gone. I don't know if it's edible as it is..... though I was thinking of popping it tomorrow. By the way, how long is freebase consumeable at room temperature? A week? Do you think my stuff is ok to eat considering the way I harvested it?

So what could be done differently? Would it have been better if I let my spice dish dry out completely? How can I get it to a powder that would have been much easier to encapsulate? Even the goo that I couldn't get this morning, I let it dry in the glass container completely and by tonight, it was just really sticky resin that was near impossible to scrape off the glass. I imagine if I let the whole thing sit the whole day, it would have been just a big sticky mess. How do you guys deal with this goo?

Also, just wondering, is the smell of spice that musky smell? I would describe it as old corn that might be a little too old to eat. I wondered if that smell was the spice, or the combination reactions that took place throughout the process.

eating that wont do anything at all, even if it is 40mg of real stuff.

You have to smoke it, have you kept the naptha? You could evaporate like 3/4 of it over a few days then stick it back in the freezer and you should get crystals.

It wasnt saturated enough to crash out, the milky naptha was dmt you were seeing, just there was too much naptha for the solubility to drop enough for it to form crystals on the glass.

WHAT!?!?! I mean, I was going to take maoi first. Don't tell me I'm missing something else here. I was always under the impression that whatever form dmt is in.... you can take it orally. I was going to mix it with coke or orange juice as well to aid in digestion and lower the freebase ph.

Could I smoke the wax that I have?

Also I did not know that naphtha takes several days to evap. I tried to evap it one day, but had to abort when people came home. Do you know why it is that in lazyman's tek, he claims to complete the entire tek, including evaporation in only a few hours? That's what I was expecting.

Yes I did keep the naphtha, it is again mixed with lye and water. So you're saying the goo is the result of there being too much naphtha and if I let most of it evap, then I'll get crystals instead of goo in another freeze precip? Thanks for your response.

That.

I just finished the first phase of my first extraction on 2lbs of bark. However I did a small-scale test about a week ago and had a similar result, with a goop forming after the naptha was gone.

I believe the issue is that DMT melts at a pretty low temperature, so it stays liquid with very small amounts of naptha in it. You need to have it form crystals.

The second time I tried it, I froze the knife I was using to scrape the crystals, and I used a coffee filter to separate them from the solution while it was still freezing (ice forming on the container its in). Then I let the coffee filter dry in the fridge. The resulting matter was very dry and did not stick to the filter much at all.

However with only 40mg you are still going to loose a lot on the filter.

But anyways, my advice is to evaporate the naptha till you have something like 30-50ml/g of DMT, freeze for at least an hour, and then remove the resulting crystals while it is still freezing cold. When I waited a long time, all of the milkyness eventually settled to the bottom or stuck to the sides.

Also, I think DMT smells kind of like... plastic or rubber or something. I would say it smells kind of chemically. And it tastes like burning.

as said before, the naphtha probably wasnt saturated enough. Evaporate more, then freeze for 12 hours or so. Then follow instructions here to prevent melting crystals due to trace solvents warming up:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...ystals_after_freezing.3F


good luck!

THanks people. I did ingest my yello wax today, and I got even more than I bargained for. No filtering was done. I just scraped up the goo, it dried for a day in the gelcap, and today I ate it. Is that really bad? It was a great experience. .... though next time I will try to get better quality spice. I'm afraid I might have ingested some naphtha.

You probably inhaled more naptha than that while you were pouring it... IMHO. (I definately did while I watched it boil, lmao. felt sick.)

I find that it is hard to crystallize small amounts of DMT out of naptha. You need a certain amount to keep it saturated, and that amount might be on the order of 100mg for workable amounts of solvent. Plus all the stuff that sticks to the jar, filters. Its a good idea to do batches with more than 100g of bark if you can.

oh, I see. Well, I only used 50g of powder, and 250ml of naphtah, so I guess way too much naphtha, and far too little Mimosa for the first time around.

Interesting thing about my trip.... for the first 2 hours it was just nausea and dizzynes and a need to lie down with minimal psych effects. When I was well enough to walk, I thought the trip was over, and was fine riding my bike home for 20 mins to go to a family dinner. When I got home I found myself tripping just before grandma came over. This was a really heady high, no nausea, with pronouced psych effects seeing insects and receving awesome messages. I had to lie down for 20 mins, and when that ended, I thought it was over, so I joined the family and said I felt better. But when I ate dinner I found myself peaking right at the table. I had to leave and hope no one asked questions because I felt I was about to lose it altogether.

I spent 30 minutes in the bathroom experiencing great wonders, but wished I was in a proper environment. I went back upstairs and felt very good for the rest of the gathering. And after that, I see insects in a new way. I think I have read that others experience dmt in waves, so it might not be over when you think it is. And also eating can cause a dmt surge or something. I will learn my lesson. I can't even beleive that happened for my first dmt experience. Not the right environment, but I can say I enjoyed the family more on dmt, cause I felt quite good as soon as I was ok in my body, so no harm done.

You probably didnt "use" too much naptha, if 250ml was your total from 3 pulls. You could probably use a bit more, its not hard to evaporate in a double boiler and you dont want your pulls to get close to saturated or you will end up having to do more. In my opinion its a good idea to do the pulls hot, like 60 degrees or as hot as you can keep it without burning your hands.

The naptha needs to be evaporated before crystallizing, I found myself boiling off 80% or more of my naptha before I thought it was ready for the freezer.

Its all about keeping the concentrations high - IMHO. I boiled the initial acid solution down as well.

What did you use as an MAOI?

Thanks for all that, but doesn't dmt evaporate at 60 degrees? How did you boil off your naphtha?
I used Syrian Rue for the maoi.