As you all may be aware there are synthetic cannaboids abound on the market. My local head shop stopped selling K2 because of it's recent news coverage. They now stock a similar blend known only as V. It comes in a 35mm film like container I will post pics soon. I tried it for a few weeks and it is very strong and quite enjoyable. The other night I had a experience I was not quite expecting from it. I know that Mary Jane is considered a weak psychadelic compound in itself but most people dont smoke nearly enough to get the full on psychadelic effects we see from LSD or other drugs like it.

I am not exactly sure what happened here but man was it odd. I went on what I would call a DMT 'like' trip. Ive smoked this stuff for like 2 weeks and had taken in some pretty hard dosages but this never happened. I know that the active ingreidient is sprayed onto the plant matter so maybe I got a inconsistent dose.

Whatever happened to trigger it I entered into a strong stupor while quickly transitioned into a cascade of geometric shapes much like the ones that I had experienced during DMT breakthrus. The main part that was unlike DMT was that I was not overwhelmed to suck a extreme that I could only watch. During this trip I could actively focus my thoughts and go where I wanted to go and see what I wanted to see.

The trip lasted for what seemed like 45 mins wherein I focused on the foundation of reality, quarks, leptons, nutrinos etc.. and expanded to the atom then molecule so on to the macro scale. I was perceiving the universe from the ground up understanding fully each step of the way and seeing all the correlations within.

The issue is that I have no idea why I got a suprise trip like that. The cannaboid shouldnt have had to power to do something like that. It might have had something to do with the state of mind I was in and the cannaboids might have suppressed my cognitive functions enough for this to come forth. Kinda like a flashback or something.

With a totally unregulated RC blend like that, who knows what you could have been smoking. It might not even have been a synthetic cannabinoid at all.

I believe there are cannabinoids that in sufficient dosages act on not only the CB receptors, but also at serotonin receptors. If this is true, this unidentified compound you ingested might be one of these.

Interesting stuff, keep us posted if the experience repeats itself or you get an idea of what caused it.

I will I have been smoking it still and If I get high enough I get a fringe like effect but nothing anywhere near what I got on this trip. I just got this feeling it had to be a combination of things it just doesnt add up otherwise unless I got a high concentration of something.

could be triggering a flashback?

I know of some guys who are messing with a few research chems & if it's anything like JWH-018 then it can be unpredictable..

jwh-018 produces geometric patterns in higher doses.
oddly enough, the molecule is indolic, thus more structurally related to tryptamines than cannabinoids
certainly more psychedelic than the latter

where can one get this? lol
whats it look like?

It looks like they're now selling changa as legal herb mixtures.

Who is "they" obliguhl?

vovins local headshop?

Cannabinoids are completely capable of causing these effects. If you manage to take a very large dose within a very short period of time, then extreme psychedelic effects may occur.

From what I am reading here I think it is a result of a spiked batch I just happened to get hold of. Funny thing is first thing I thought when I began to break thru was this is what changa must be like. V does have JWH in it I am sure of that but what mixture percentage is not listed or findable on the net. For somone who has never done DMT this would have been a real bad experience. It's not good getting suprised with a break thru effect like that for somone who has had DMT breakthrus but I feel for the guy who has never done DMT and had that happen he would totally freak out. I was lucky my DMT experiences allowed me to deal with it easily and take advantage of the phenomena.

This stuff is legal and V seems to far more concentrated than K2 or Serenity Now the other 2 I have tried. I think if one were to put forth the effort he could concentrate the mixture and guarantee the effect and have what would equate to a legalized changa like compound. This stuff lasted for 45 mins and I was pretty screwed up but I had much more control over my cognitive faculties and motor coordination than I have with spice so you could actually focus on a goal and have time to attempt to accomplish it. It definately deserves investigation. I have finals right now so I just dont have the time maybe in the near future I will have to take up this torch. Could be a whole new unexplored world of research right here.

Ok here's some photos of it for those who might want to look into it. I went to the headshop and asked for K2 they said they had stopped selling it due to the media and that they now sell a similar product called V. Now with the cannaboids market there is a understood aura of secrecy. I thnk they chose the obscure name 'V' because it is something that is hard to research or find anything on. The ingredients arent listed not even the herbs are on it.

The only thing on the packaging is the following:
Exotic blends of herbs and extract to stimulate the senses
NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, AROMATHERAPY ONLY

V 3.5

That's it nothing else is written on it. Here's the pics:

so you have no idea what your doing?

That looks like enhanced leaf too me, lucky chap vovin

The first time in my life, that i smoked weed, i had hallucinations (i saw glass-like birds) and LSD-like visuals.
I have never had thát much visual effects from cannabis ever again but i have had several other experiences with cannabis that where nonetheless quite intense.

I always say that cannabis can be at least as intense as LSD. The only thing about this tripreport that strikes me as odd is the visual effects you desrcibe, but like i said: i've had such an event myself as well, and i think you can call these unusual effects from a substance 'freak-events'.

These smoking blends could probably incidentally contain very high concentrations of JWH's or other synthetic cannabinoids. And if that is the case, you could probably just incidentally with only one toke from a bong or joint, pump an amount of chemicals in your bloodstream that equal enormous amounts of hash or weed.
JWH is active in only a few milligrams and there are other synthetic cannabinoids that are active in even less than a milligram.

So within only one, two or three tokes you could get something in your blood that maybe equals a few grams of very good weed.
That ought to be at least comparable in intensity to an LSD experience, if not stronger.

I even started a thread on this forum, maybe a year ago, where i speculated about the possibility that a synthetic cannabinoid (or some very specific cannabinoids, isolated from cannabis) could cause DMT-like breakthroughs.

So your report doesn't surprise me.

Gotta love the marketing...

Do you have any sources for this information, Evening Glory? I was under the impression that cannabinoids are received specifically in the cannabinoid receptors.

Couldn't find that thread that i started, since apparently you cannot go back more than a year, BUT...when i was looking for it, noticed that there are a few threads on this forum where people mention DMT-like effects with synthetic cannabinoids.

I would say that this makes a stronger case for the statement that synthetic cannabinoids can easily be 'overdosed' and that in such large amounts they can sometimes cause psychedelic effects that are comparable in intensity with those of DMT.

Especially when the compound isn't a JWH but some CB that's active in doses less than a milligram.
It is obviousley very easy to overdose on one of those substances.