After SWIM has evaped away the vinegar leaving DMT acetate, is the acetate smokeable as is? Is it best if Swim mixes it with a herb to smoke with?
I have read that DMT acetate is best used in pharma/aya but SWIM is not experienced with pharma/aya and would prefer the smoking method for this reason.

Any guidance appreciated.

DMT acetate is smokable, though it both tastes like vinegar, is harsher (expands) and the effect on acetic acid vapor on the lungs is completely unknown (effect of DMT is not well known either)

Any source of heat above 70C or so will evaporate the acetates off and leave freebase DMT, SWIM has done this with a glass dish suspendedover a boiling pot of water, a flat glass coaster and 1: a lighter and 2: and element on minimum heat. All yielded freebase DMT.
A Flat metal surface would work better, less risk of cracking. In each case a razor blade was used to scrape up the freebase

the way you can tell is just by smelling, freebase DMT has little smell, DMT acetate smell very strongly of vinegar especially during heating. Generally it is very quick and easy to do this, just don't heat over 110C or else the product will vaporize and start to smoke instead of steam, thus loss of product.

Cheers

How long did it take for the acetates to evaporate for Swiy?

The best way is to leave it in a dehydrator around 125f for a few days and keep chopping. It will become a brown powder. When smoking hit the whole bowl with fire and it will destroy the acetate.

Swim has evaporated all the vinegar of leaving an amberish sticky goo. It smells like DMT and doesn't smell like vinegar at all. Would SWIM be able to make a "herb sandwich" with this goo and smoke it using a normal water bong?

Ya totally.

In SWIM's experience it CAN be dried out, but it is very hygroscopic (becomes gooey cause it absorbs moisture)

Be careful with the dose, in SWIM's experience it is 95% or more DMT.


Because of the gooeyness it makes it difficult to store. But SWIM has been working with tinctures of DMT acetate that you store and then on demand you measure, dropwise based on concentration, and evaporate before a session.

SWIM has used a flat glass coaster on his electric stove element (on MIN), or a lighter would do, but glass can shatter with a lighter, SWIM's been meaning to get a copper sheet for the same purpose

Has SWIY posted a tincture method on the nexus? If so may the link be shared?

Thanks

SWIM has used acetate tinctures with his inspirator in a bubbler adding about three drops at a time. He's not certain, but he believes that much of the acetic acid could simply be gotten rid of by feathering the piece with a torch, basically how q21q21 does it on a dish but directly in the smoking device and how one would go about melting solid product when loading; however, he's only smoked the acetate without attempting that trick, and the taste of acetic is quite minimal--possibly especially when using a bubbler.

@amor-fati

SWIM tried that on his machine, but the copper simply would not hold even 2 drops of water, hence the need for evaporation beforehand.



The tincture:

Basically limonene/xylene is used on basified MHRB (SWIM uses lime, not lye) then after 15-20 minutes mixing periodically the solvent is seperated from the bark.

Next step is to add vinegar to the solvent, shake well a couple times over 2-5 minutes

Separate the vinegar, repeat with fresh vinegar, combine both vinegars and evaporate.

SWIM's been thinking lately that complete evaporation is not completely necessary (and scraping the go is a pain) since the tincture can later be measured by counting the drops, evaporating and measuring the scraped up product, in his experience the concentration of the product is very consistent.

So when evaporating, just evaporate it down in something with a large surface area til the vinegar gets pretty red, then collect the liquid in a container with a small surface area, like a shot glass or sauce cup, then concentrate it down until it is very dark. SWIM uses a frying pan filled with oil as a double-boiler type setup it could even be completely evaporated then redissolved in a few ml of vinegar.

You could probably use a single medium surface area container too

Filtering these is very easy with the right tools, SWIM uses a 5ml medicine dropper and 1/4 of a cotton ball stuffed in, keep the top off and use another dropper or even a turkey baster to fill, then place the top back on a squeeze.

if there are still bits in the filter then you can add more vinegar to dissolve, or they might just insoluble impurities. Once filtered it is a tincture and can be measured as stated above.

SWIM's been meaning to write this up, but he's been busy with his new PH tester and fine-tuning mescaline extractions...

SWIM hasn't tried with the machine, but how he does it with the inspirator (with two screens overtop ceramic fiber in a dropper stem) is that he'll add three drops, smoke a little (but not all of it), add three more and repeat until he gets up the gumption to take a larger hit. SWIM also used fairly concentrated and warmed tincture to do this.

He's thinking of ways to make it more manageable, and when he he comes up with a decent method, he'll include it in his smoking device teks.