This may be long but please read, We take alot of shit from you all but have kept our response respectfull and we hope for once, DMT nexus users will be able to emulate our behaviour and not name-call and act out like children.

Please keep the freedom of speech fair and do not shut this thread.

Why dont you guys go after more harmful videos like that of meth tutorials, You have lost sight of what the psychedelic culture truely is so much, You guard the secrets of how to make DMT like it is your own knowledge, Well guess what it is not, Everybody has the right to learn and you are all preventing people from learning how to smoke/produce DMT.

Is this what timothy leary did when he discovered LSD ? No. Even though i am sure part of him was fearfull of it being taken away the right thing to do was spread it to the masses and teach people of the wounderful substance. Fast forward to 2010 and now we have DMT nexus trying to prevent people from learning about the next new substance that may very well revolutionize psychedelics all over again.

Do you know how sad you all look saying i need a beating or other people who want to share this knowledge ? Or if all you can do is flag my videos, Or if you can find me and kick my ass ? Well here i am to answer your questions and to put my side of the story on the table like a man.

Not sit on some forum flag some guy's videos and talk smack like you guys do. Lets get this resolved like true adults because you all say i act immature the way you are talking & attacking your own culture is pretty immature but you dont look at that do you ?

You all are comming off in a very childish manor trying to guard somthing you feel you are privladged too and other people are not. I dont even know if you all can even see it anymore. I thought psychedelics stripped away the ego, Well you lot sure are the least like the psychedelic culture out of any forum group on the internet or friends i assosiate wtih, You are all so jaded in protecting this information it has gotten to your heads.

Yeah we came off as immature KIDS back then because we WHERE. You know what that video showed though ? People having fun with somthing they just learned about & discovered, Even though we where being immature & not using it in the propper setting, Nobody got hurt and fun was had. In the very least it was a testimet to DMT's safety as a substance. As we grow as people we try to think of what we could have done differantly and update our content with new responsible video's and teach people the propper way to do things, Bring them along with us as we grow.

I can say hands down i was not a fan of the first DMT extraction we made looking back on it, That was the first batch we had ever made. The video of us smoking DMT & doing 2c-t-2, For kids having fun hell its funny to look back and have some laughs at it. Because we didnt have some candles burning and doing it what you all consider the "perfect setting" doesnt mean what we where doing was wrong.

We where video taping ourselfs having fun & learning aswell as experimenting with a new substance to us witch was DMT. Everybody seem's to enjoy what we do beside you all and i truely belive you need to re-evaluate the way you are looking at the culture & the knowledge you think nobody else should see or hear about unless it is from the mouth of demi-god rogan.

The video we made and posted was over 4 years old we have all matured and grown and made better content since then but all you do is flag videos and act like you are doing somthing important. By posting it we are trying to show our growth and maturation as we age and learn new things to teach the community. This doesnt mean you have to flag our videos and attack us like you are all foaming at the mouth.

Expect us to be putting up our NEW DMT tutorial with lab grade materials and helping people find out how to make this material safely, We will surely be putting it someware where you bunch cannot flag it because you feel nobody else deserves to know of our sacrad knowledge.

You are all so delusional acting like you are helping the culture when you are infact destroying it. If the psychedelic culture was made up of people like you from the start and people like the users of DMT nexus nobody would have ever learned of psychedelics because all you think the knowledge is for you and you alone like you are so special.

Because we wont stop doing what we do, We could work together, Do somthing productive and in the true sense of harm reduction and go after the meth tutorial videos on youtube, Or other videos showing people DRIVING ON SALVIA things we would never promote and WORK WITH YOU ON, Not attack your own culture.

The negative outlook that DMT / the knowledge of DMT or how to procure it is only for a select few, Is detrimental and counter-productive to the psychedelic culture. Until people stop being affraid of what they do when it comes to exploring your own personal concsisnous and realise that acting like they are doing somthing wrong makes you look more guilty then embracing your freedoms and exersicing them responsibly. None of us today would know of psychedelics if we where not introduced to them by people who wanted to share the experiance.

People have become so clouded with fear that they forget this fact. A very repulsive self-entitled attitude has formed where certain people feel they are much more privladged than your comon person when it comes to the gift of knowing about DMT or how to procure it. Its a selfish attitude to not want anybody else to learn about it in fear it will be taken away from you and i dont think it is the true way of the psychedelic culture at all.

You have all thease internet warriors turned into psychedelic exploreres just because they found out about Reasech chemicals on the internet witch lead them to finding out about DMT along the way, Or they heard joe rogan talking about it and wanted to try it because of that ( and yeah alot of the DMT internet culture is made of those people ) They feel like they have a greater right to that knowledge than your comon person, Most of the internet psychedelic culture is formed out of people who just started getting high off stuff they found out they could make on the internet, Or buy from the internet.

Now here later a good % of thease people are the same ones saying you shouldnt know about it, But when it comes time to defend DMT in light of legality what is the first thing that is brought up?
DMT is produced in everybodys brains when they sleep "even the presidents" as one youtube video states, Now here is the funny thing this backwards ass thinking you are telling people that they have this drug existing in their brains and that it makes them dream when it is in your best interest to defend the substance, But when it comes to educating a wider audience about that very drug that is produced in their brains every night, All thease internet warriors zip up and act like nobody deserves to know exept the ones who already do. Or if somebody "really" wants to find out they will hunt for extraction techniques, Well my arguement is why make it so hard for people thus making it more unsafe in the end ?

Why be so against tutorials and information presented to make it safer for people to explore & procure this substance you all love so much ? Nobody will never know, Partially because alot of it is human ego and no matter how hard we try we can never escape that one killer to all great things man trys to create.

It disgusts me When there are detailed videos teaching people how to make methamphetamine on youtube, But instead of doing somthing productive as a culture in the truest sense of harm reduction and trying to get videos like that taken down you sabatage your own culture ?

Do somthing more productive with your time than the counter-productive actions you have been taking towards anybody trying to bring psychedelic safety & knowledge to the mainstream, Yes this is directed towards DMTnexus specificly. Go flag some methamphetamine videos and do us all some good instead of servicing your self entitled outlook on psychedelics & DMT.

People thinking they deserve to know about certain things more than others and that certian knowledge should be supressed So they attack and sabatage their own culture While seemingly unbothered by videos of meth manufacture on youtube, At this point having the DMT tutorial seems like an option that shouldnt even be questioned, Meth cooks have videos of how to make meth safely but our own psychedelic culture is against the freedom of information to help people produce DMT in their own privacy That blows my mind, Meth, well ok but DMT ? no... thats not for everybody.... If u wanna know find out yourself... What type of egotistical attitude is that ? that we are too good to help people learn and make their experiances easyer and more informative to possibly prevent future mistakes in first time extractions or experiances ?

Who knows. People who are completely new to chemistry and the reactions taking place, Or visual learners who need to see to completely understand somthing require thease sorts of tutorials. I think seing the procedure greatly helps thease people. I cant say in my mind rationally that just because
A. you are a visual learner or
B. you have never done chemistry

That you dont deserve to learn how to make DMT. Or that you should be forced to stumble your way through a tek you dont understand and end up with a product your not comfortable to injest.

Sorry for the long read but i am tierd of taking flak on thease forums for trying to do somthing productive for our culture, You all need to read this seriously with your ego's asside and respond in a respectfull manner. I appreciate those who have shaired their opinions in this thread regardless if you agree or disagree with us Some of you have avoided the mob mentality to act like children and have kept your opinions responsible, For this i say thank you to the ones who have.

To those who havent, I hope you will all re-evaluate the way you have decided to act because if i was in your position and took a step back i would look at myself as a jackass.

Please excuse me, I did not read all you wrote. Simply because there was so much name-calling (and at the same time bashing us for being name-callers, how ironic is that?) and ego-driven hate towards us as a community. I understand you are angry, but please, take a few deep breaths so you do not have to go as low as you just did again and again. Claim we live in our egos while at the same time writing pages of personal attacks that clearly comes from an ego that feels hurt? Come on, dude... It does not suit your cause at all. To the contrary, it makes you look like you don't really believe what you write.

Now, you do indeed have a great point that the knowledge should be shared. I absolutely agree with you on that. It is, however, very important how the knowledge about entheogens is wrapped up. Knowledge is power, but the real power lies in unbiased knowledge. By posting videos to YouTube of you and your mates ingesting a sacred substance, you are effectively taking the stand as the advocates of said substances. For any and all Average Joes, the people interested in entheogens are the guys smoking entheogens on YouTube.

What the watchers of said videos does not understand, are the vast effects obtained with said entheogens. Nothing is understood about the healing potential. Nothing is understood about the importance of set & setting and deep respect of the substance and the consumer of it. By watching some kids smoke Salvia and laugh their ass off, one can easily think "heeey, this is some really cool party drug!". That is not the impression you want people to have of entheogens, is it?

Now, the exact same thing goes for videos showing how to extract DMT. First of all, watchers of such videos may very well be kids just intending to get fucked up, without any knowledge about the deep respect one have to show in order to have a productive trip. Secondly, such videos will encourage legislators to ban the substances and plants in question, because said kids freak out instead of get fucked up. The way to go in order to lift the ban of entheogens are to inform about the potential within, not only on how to extract them! If you were to make videos explaining the real potential which lies within correct use of these substances, I can assure you we would all applaud it!

Peace

...and please, drop the tone.

Do not post videos about extracting illegal drugs, or anything about referencing them. Besides, its against the rules of youtube also. If all else, why are you trying to incriminate yourself?

"To those who havent, I hope you will all re-evaluate the way you have decided to act because if i was in your position and took a step back i would look at myself as a jackass."

Well, yes we are all jackass, what are you going to do about it? Whine about it some more? Honestly, enjoy the drugs for yourself, nobody besides minors want to see your videos about cooking up drugs.

I wish you success in the rest of your life.

Maxzar

You talk so much about us us us, seems like you need to take a good look at yourself too. re-read what you wrote and think about how it sounds. What do you want to accomplish, are you really writting for the benefit of others or are you just lashing out your un-digested emotions at us? You are posting in this forum and just name-calling, how are people supposed to react? Think about your own actions please. One of the first psychedelic lessons I learned is: if you want to be respected, then respect others too. Are you respecting us in your post?

This forum is not going to be your emotional vent, if you want to have a discussion, do so calmly and thoughtfully. I suggest you reconsider what you wrote and think about editing it to make it less of an attack and more of an inteligent discussion, if thats what you desire

why dont you stick around and read some of this forum and see if your criticism is really true, if we are really all ego driven bastards that are doing nothing useful for the community. Why dont you check all the project sections and all the knowledge and how its being constructed and shared, and then answer again. Check the wiki, the FAQ, all the subforums, read how people act, how the discussions are had, what is the general tone, how newcomers are received, etc... Then post again what you think of this community

Andon a side note,you are wrong about dmt being created while we dream.. seems like you need to inform yourself a bit more, because that is simply speculation and in fact data seems to contradict that hypothesis. Theres plenty of scientific articles around here if you are interested.


Im not sure what will become of this thread but I go sleep now.. goodnight

awwwwwwwwwwwe, Are you mad because we flagged your video down?


Make a better one...

Wow... Where to begin. That was hands down the least respectful post i have ever seen on this forum. By someone demanding respect. You want respect, stop the schoolyard name calling. until then i suggest we ignore this post. We are interested in your viewpoint, but not if your posts convey disrespect and a disinterest in us.
Cool down, then post.
Respect
JBArk

It appears that you'll have to deal with that man. They won't stop flagging you, BELIEVE THAT.
So you'll have to relax and think about what the hell are you going to do about it, instead of ranting about it HERE.
If you thought that 'the community' is Leary/Kesey styled... brother you are DEAD Wrong. Shit, there are even people that hate them.

I think that you have valid points. But I also think that methamphetamines videos should be left the fuck alone as well.

I understand that you are PISSED OFF, but if you want a 'rational' discussion here, you'll have to do better than that.
Now, if what you wanted was to post how angry you are to feel better, well... that is your choice. I hope you feel better now.

P.S. Psychedelics don't destroy the ego or make you a better person (whatever that hell that means). What psychedelics do is to offer an experience, and that experience means different things to different people. In the end, some people have the right to flag you the fuck down until you dissipate. And you have the right to keep on posting whatever the fuck you want, and with some luck... it will remain.

No peace and flowers or pink love power. The world is like it is, be a man about it and THINK, then ACT according to your beliefs.

I just think instead of focusing on the harsher words set in this post we all as a community should look at the point.
We all know each of us wishes there was something showing a simpler approach to our destination to begin with. Maybe its that you had to put in your work to get there and thats why you dont agree with the simplicity of this approach.

But the extraction video availability is what needs to be there. I know for a fact that I didnt want to read about polar and non polar shit and blah blah blah. I wanted to know how to safely and smartly extract the chemical desired from the source acquired.

And just a point of arguement...
"A kid just looking to get fucked up" can just as easily join a forum like this (not specificly this) but like this and learn just the same the video teaches him. With the video the same approaches would be taken, someone would have to search for the video, find the video, acquire supplies, then put it too action.

In the end that kid is going to be here looking for how to source their supplies.

This site would be nothing with out NEW PEOPLE being interested in the One thing WE ALL have in common here. New people dont just know that DMTNEXUS exists... or that its possible to be made. Outlets like youtube are a free place to let the information be found... Just an opinion but I dont think that flaggin the video of like minded people doing the same thing you (or as you guys say SWIM) do all the time...

I think you guys do you and we and they will do us and them. If you prefer to have to learn from a forum setting.... Cool so be it. But lets let people decide how they want to do it and not close all doors? ya know?

"Meth cooks have videos of how to make meth safely but our own psychedelic culture is against the freedom of information to help people produce DMT in their own privacy That blows my mind, Meth, well ok but DMT ? no... thats not for everybody.... If u wanna know find out yourself."

Well first off..this isnt the meth-nexus..

Who here is against the freedom of information reguarding DMT extraction?..fuck there are countless teks available on the site here..some of them created by peopel at the nexus.

Making you tube videos of peopel SMOKING DMT just seems counterproductive, look that where that got salvia...

A youtube tutorial on how to extract DMT is another thing, AS LONG as it's done maturaly and respectfully....I wouldnt have anything against that and would never flag it..Ive seen tutorials by freaking natives in the amazon on how to brew ayahuasca that showed them brewing the stuff..I dunno what the difference is? That seems perfectly fine to me..others here might disagree but I think thats pure dogma..

The only youtube videos I have a problem with are the ones that make DMT or salvia look like it makes you go crazy or get all cracked out in the eyes of non-psychedelic people who we might actaully need on our side for these plants to remain available. A video of someone smoking DMT and then rolling around drooling is just pointless..what is the point?..what good will coem from that?..it wont inform anyone on anything and isnt interesting to watch..and think of how that looks to some straight person who has no clue as to the reality of psychedelics..just works against us..like those stupid salvia videos.

And all that aside..it's good to do the reading anyway and understand what a polar solvent is and what a non-polar solvent is..it's not hard to read over something and try to understand it..understanding an a/b tek doesnt take much.

I doubt alot of people here just came right to DMT either..I read about DMT for 6 years before I ever even extracted and smoked the stuff..I was eating mushrooms far far before I ever saw DMT or even knew what an RC was..drop the steriotypes makes you look ignorant.

Forums devoted to extraction info have been around for years. I'm quite sure that law enforcement is aware of us, and has chosen to turn a blind eye to our favored plants... Youtube is quite a different format all together. If irresponsible DMT videos go viral on youtube, we can kiss MHRB goodbye, and quick, if it's not portrayed in careful and mindful light. If we can't get good materials on the internet, most of the plant sources that are available to us (phalaris grass, bundleflower) contain substantial amount of gramine.... which at present we have not figured out how to remove without the aid of column chromatography.

Reckless DMT videos put the entire community at risk of losing our plant sources. It's not that we believe we are the only ones that should have access... far from it! But we are acting out of concern for protecting everyone's access to the molecule. It should be noted that good informative and accurate youtube videos are not flagged: we have nothing against the spread of knowledge. We just want to protect everyone's ability to procure the molecule.

Clouds is right: this forum is not engaging in the vein of Leary or Kesey. That wild brand of proselytizing will only bring down the heavy hand of control and enforcement. Actions have consequences. We try to make sure our actions have the greatest positive consequences with the least negative consequences.

[Also, as others have noted... don't you think it's hypocritical to admonish us not to call names before spewing a long tirade full of vitriolic name-calling?]

Absolutely correct, but here at the DMT-Nexus that kid would also have had a good chance of learning how to properly use the entheogens. He would get the whole picture, or at least a large part of it - not only how to extract the molecule.

Sorry if you missed the point but this post was about A DMT Tutorial video not someones trip video.

I think alot of us were eating fungi before we explored further but whose to say someone cant go from meditation or something and then want to explore further and go straight to DMT.

Then look into it. Find a good video showing how to safely acquire it, while more than likely looking into it and understanding whats happening more. People can watch that video and research here simotaneously. Hell they can read here and then watch the video to make sure the step they are doing is right? It helps when you see something done then do it... "Monkey see monkey do"

I read about dmt for 4 years. Extracted it. Still havnt smoked it. Still havnt felt it be the right time. But itd of been nice to have a video to have a side by side comparison of steps taken.

Right, I agree. But then again, its not only here that that could be learned. I only recently have come around here and I have learned the proper safer use of entheogens from youtube from experiences, opinions, videos, talks everything. I AGREE that this is a good place to learn but its not the ONLY place. I feel youtube could be just the same venue if not only a gateway to places like this to learn more.

Panduh, youtube could be a good place to learn that.... but not from any of the DMT videos that we at the nexus are in the habit of flagging. We have nothing against videos that present DMT in a reasonable light.

youtube is for videos, not making drugs.

Why do we need a video anyway? Last thing we want is more attention to DMT especially in the US.

Also, this is not a "Instructables" website or something, there is no need for a video, because anybody who is serious about dmt can read the extraction teks on the forum, or ask one of the other members for help or advice.

I'm not going to go into the name-calling, etc. Most folk who posted beforehand covered that well.

But I do want to make a point. Any of that about the Nexus hoarding information is simply not true. I only joined the Nexus a couple of months ago, and trust me, no site is more clear, well-organized and accessible when it comes to information on DMT. When you type in DMT-related searches into Google, usually the Nexus is in at least one of the top five results.

Also, an extraction tek is NOT hard to follow. I knew next to nothing about chemistry on this level, and while the teks seem a bit daunting at first, you only have to read them two or three times tops before you can get the idea. Take the BLAB for instance; the first step is literally

"Take your gallon jug and pour 1 liter of vinegar into it. Then add your pound of bark. Shake this hard to get it all mixed up. Then put it somewhere and let it sit for 3 days."

You need to be neither a chemist nor a visual learner to understand that. Youtube videos do little more than get the wrong kind of attention. The reason videos for making meth don't cause much trouble for the meth industry is because so many (if not all) of meth's ingredients are everyday items; good DMT extraction hinges on the availability of a handful of imported plant products. If DMT were to get bad press, as if the BBB thing wasn't bad enough already, then it would endanger the whole community.

As a relative newcomer to the Nexus, I just don't understand how someone could consider it to be exclusive, or unfriendly. The Nexus is overall the best source of accurate DMT wisdom, as well as bein' friendly to boot!

That's how I feel... I really don't see the need for a video. All the teks already make it so easy, a monkey could practically do it. If you're interested in extracting DMT, it seems to me you ought to be willing to spend one hour reading about the process to familiarize yourself with what you're accomplishing. If you aren't willing to even put in that minimal amount of time, chances are you aren't ready for DMT.

First off i would like to thank the member who contacted me Via Pm with this respectfull message. I wont state his forum name for privacy. This is what i hoped for when i posted this origonal post, I hope people can follow his suite and we can all develop some kind of dialog to work through our differances.

Please read my answer to his origonal private message in this quote below & consider the things i have said.

Just one question: If you say you aren't experts, why do you think you ought to be making tutorials? Unless I'm missing something, that seems antithetical to your professed goal of harm-reduction.

Okay, I'm the guy that said you could use a beating, and perhaps that was a tad harsh. I'm not a diplomat - ask around. But you put it out there for millions to see, act like an ass clown and increase the odds that our source materials will be illegalized. So, what exactly would you expect, brother? I flagged your video and I'd do it again. Why? Because it was offensive to me, as it was to many others. If you don't understand why this is so, there are plenty of people here nicer than me who I'm sure will politely explain it.

There is no kind of gridlock on information here within this community. Everything is made VERY accessible to anyone who would seek it. Newcomers are welcomed with open arms every single day. Teks are catalogued, hands are held through extractions and rough experiences. We are here for each other, and we try to conduct our business respectfully and responsibly. But don't make the mistake of thinking that our culture is your culture, because it ain't. We're not voyeurs. We're not recruiters. We don't get off on seeking attention or trying to dose up the world. We respect the molecule. You do not - at least the knucklehead squad I saw in your YouTube video sure as hell didn't. What would even compel you to post some shit like that is a mystery to me. And if it's four years old and you've come so far, what's the point of leaving it out there? Why the channel in the first place, honestly? Do you really need to play pied piper, like you're high school Timothy Leary? Do you blog about your morning shits? Do you tweet what you had for breakfast? Putting it out there like you have is crass and stupid and ugly.

Honestly, I don't care about you or your friends one way or another, Knowledgestick. But I do care about DMT. Very, very deeply. And it pisses me off to see it trivialized. That's what I felt, watching you and your friends smoking space crack in your mom's basement. Put that together with the absolute certainty that what you're doing will hasten the end of legal source materials for all of us, and you can bet your ass I'll be flagging your shit every chance I get.