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Blundering_Novice
#1 Posted : 4/9/2010 5:35:41 AM
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I am sure at least a few of you know who R.A.W. is/was. To me, he was probably the biggest single external influence on my adult intellect as far as authors go.

Aaaanyway, I thought I'd share a small story. Back in the 90s, I went to a rave in Madison, Wi. I had heard he was attending so I brought along a book for an autograph. As well as some blotter Acid! So about halfway through the rave, the music shuts off and he sits down in the middle of the dance floor and does some talking. I recall hearing a few of the younger members expressing sentiments such as "Why is this old man talking and who shut off the music?" To be honest I don't remember much of the dissertation now due to my state of mind, but during the Q & A session, somebody asked him if he ever thought he'd see his daughter again. Now for those who don't know, she was murdered back in the 70s while working at a convenience store. I'm not really sure what the intentions were of the person who asked him this, but it really cast a pallor over things for a while. Talk about a buzzkill! He responded something along the lines of "I don't know what type of person would ask me that," and shortly thereafter he got up. Fortunately he stayed long enough for me to get my book signed, I think I was the only one who asked. It struck me then that it's a little sad that more people didn't seem to be aware of his contributions to our world. His time as an editor at Playboy in the 1960s really opened up a lot of peoples eyes to the positive side of psychedelics who might have otherwise simply enjoyed nude women!

If you've never had the fortune of reading one of his books, I highly recommend checking him out. Quantum Psychology, the Cosmic Trigger series, Prometheus Rising, Sex Drugs & Magic, and of course the Illuminatus Trilogy are all excellent works. He is one of those people who I think will be looked back on as being way ahead of his time in a hundred years.
 

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#2 Posted : 4/9/2010 8:42:15 AM

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R.A.W.s books are hysterical. But definitely hard for a mainstream reader to get or enjory.
 
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#3 Posted : 4/9/2010 9:49:13 AM

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yeah reading cosmic trigger as a teenager opened up many doors for me and helped me start making some sense of my psychedelic experiences! he was so witty, or straight up hilarious at times.. I found that book a great starting point for learning about many other authors, theories and events I later researched more about.

I wonder who has that damn book because its not in my book collection anymore Razz
 
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#4 Posted : 4/9/2010 10:14:42 AM

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I consider the Illuminatus Trilogy to be my first psychedelic experience.
Amazing Book...simply amazing!
 
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#5 Posted : 4/9/2010 11:46:27 AM

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I figured there must be plenty of RAW fans on here, I've seen more than a few references to ideas he originated. I find the 8-circuit model of consciousness immensely useful in understanding ordinary/non-ordinary states of being in the world. And whoever asked him about his daughter should've been kicked where it hurts. I wonder if he ever explored Spice?
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#6 Posted : 4/9/2010 4:58:41 PM
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lysergify wrote:
I figured there must be plenty of RAW fans on here, I've seen more than a few references to ideas he originated. I find the 8-circuit model of consciousness immensely useful in understanding ordinary/non-ordinary states of being in the world. And whoever asked him about his daughter should've been kicked where it hurts. I wonder if he ever explored Spice?



RAW credits Leary with the 8-circuit model, IIRC. But RAW did build upon it.

I suspect that he had probably tried DMT, though I can't say for sure why.
 
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#7 Posted : 4/9/2010 4:59:59 PM
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burnt wrote:
R.A.W.s books are hysterical. But definitely hard for a mainstream reader to get or enjory.



Oh, I dunno. His humor and ability to explain things easily puts him within the grasp of many people I think. They just don't know who he is (yet).
 
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#8 Posted : 4/9/2010 7:55:40 PM



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Blundering_Novice wrote:
burnt wrote:
R.A.W.s books are hysterical. But definitely hard for a mainstream reader to get or enjory.



Oh, I dunno. His humor and ability to explain things easily puts him within the grasp of many people I think. They just don't know who he is (yet).


I think it depends on the person mostly.. and which work they are reading. i know i've given some people his books and they simply are so ingrained into society that they don't get much out of it, or are frightened into thinking its some sort of occult guide to devil worship or something Twisted Evil

I guarantee Wilson did dmt..many times! He's mentioned it in his works and he was friends with Leary (who admits to doing it), McKenna, and tons of other psychedelic people..for decades.

Robert Wilson was a sheer, hilarious genius..he's impacted me more than anyone I've ever met, and more so than almost any other author.

http://www.google.com/se...al&client=firefox-a

edit: my name is sort of a metaphor for dmt.. and also an offshoot of the idea behind Wilson's titling of cosmic trigger Razz ..yeah i love him.. R.I.P.RAW <3



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#9 Posted : 4/11/2010 1:12:14 AM

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UniverseCannon wrote:

I think it depends on the person mostly.. and which work they are reading. i know i've given some people his books and they simply are so ingrained into society that they don't get much out of it, or are frightened into thinking its some sort of occult guide to devil worship or something Twisted Evil

I guarantee Wilson did dmt..many times! He's mentioned it in his works and he was friends with Leary (who admits to doing it), McKenna,

edit: my name is sort of a metaphor for dmt.. and also an offshoot of the idea behind Wilson's titling of cosmic trigger Razz ..yeah i love him.. R.I.P.RAW <3


Good stuff, I think it's clear that your name refers to DMT; I didn't catch the reference to Cosmic Trigger. I would LOVE to read a description by RAW of his DMT experiences. Can you tell me where this appears in his works?

Also I agree that the 8-circuit model originated with Leary. I think he mentions DMT in association with the so-called 8th circuit, the quantum non-local circuit.
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#10 Posted : 4/11/2010 9:52:28 AM



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Oh my mistake..
I didn't mean to imply that Wilson had wrote about his dmt experiences in books, of that I'm really not sure since I haven't read them all yet. What i meant was that he had mentioned dmt, and ayahuasca in some of his works that I've read. As far as i know he never said that he'd actually taken them himself though Wink
but i think it's obvious that he did




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#11 Posted : 4/11/2010 11:24:36 AM

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UniverseCannon wrote:
Oh my mistake..
I didn't mean to imply that Wilson had wrote about his dmt experiences in books, of that I'm really not sure since I haven't read them all yet. What i meant was that he had mentioned dmt, and ayahuasca in some of his works that I've read. As far as i know he never said that he'd actually taken them himself though Wink
but i think it's obvious that he did


AHH very disappointing, I would have enjoyed that. And I agree it's obvious he would have been exposed to DMT on many occasions. He must have referenced this somewhere.
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#12 Posted : 4/13/2010 10:16:42 PM
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Leary definitely did DMT. In fact, there's an accounting somewhere on the web of his last few days on earth. He had many visitors, and many bore gifts.

There's also a trip report from the 60s where Leary and Co. use the 'trip calculator' to try and make sense of it.
 
 
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