The Root
 
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mesc tastes very bitter. and color moving is no indication - often my salting waters look no different. antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".
IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.
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Phlux- wrote:mesc tastes very bitter.
and color moving is no indication - often my salting waters look no different. Bitterness is there he said, just also has a saltiness... Any idea how to clean out the anhydrous magnesium sulphate? He was thinking water but both are soluble in it. ThirdEyeVision
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huachumancer
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in some thick triches i notice granules of white that taste salty if you collect them scattered throughout a cross section
anyway the real question is
what did you mean by 2-3 acetate washes, mek wash?
is that one or the other, or acetate then mek?
also if the acetate wash is necessary please explain how to do so
swim was only going to re ex with mek after the citrate is collected
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huachumancer
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can a swimmer reduce the xylene into the freebase oil to potentially vaporize an amount for psychedelic effects?
perhaps it too needs cleaning with acetone or MEK
has anyone tried or heard of this before>><?
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The Root
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the freebase is preddy caustic - i think it would hurt u if u tried to do that. the freebase converts to mescaline carbonate on exposure to air - im not sure how fast - but i doubt it would stay freebase for long in an open environment. antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".
IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.
Quote: ‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell Quote: ‹xtechre› cheese is great He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.
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Could Ammonia Hydroxide or Sodium Carbonate be substituted for Lye. Also, could Vinegar be substituted for HCl? I'm mad as a hatter and a compulsive liar.
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The Root
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you could but then you would be performing a different tek. best by far is sodium hydroxide as the base and hcl as the final product. antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".
IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.
Quote: ‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell Quote: ‹xtechre› cheese is great He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.
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SWIM
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Phlux- wrote:the freebase is preddy caustic - i think it would hurt u if u tried to do that.
the freebase converts to mescaline carbonate on exposure to air - im not sure how fast - but i doubt it would stay freebase for long in an open environment. SWIM's accidentally freebased some mescaline HCl one time, heating over 100C does it quickly. When left to air it goes brown and gooey (hygroscopic) in less than 5 minutes. Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMTThe 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.I am almost never on this site anymore so I will likely not answer PMs
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huachumancer
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swim wonders how long the xylene can left with the basified tea in glass before it renders alkaloids inactive
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Thanks Phlux  . swim was waiting for your pictorial but thought he'd just plod on without it. There was a little fiddly diddly on the measurements since he was only using 100g torch but things seem to have worked out well. So first evap of 4 combined hcl water pulls 120ml has yielded 490mg of off white (hopefully) mescalito. swim shall be testing it out tonight. my hats off to you sir  peace Buster attached the following image(s):  004.JPG (2,548kb) downloaded 854 time(s).I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.
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O yes. its mescalito alright I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.
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RUN DMT
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Buster wrote:Thanks Phlux . swim was waiting for your pictorial but thought he'd just plod on without it. There was a little fiddly diddly on the measurements since he was only using 100g torch but things seem to have worked out well. So first evap of 4 combined hcl water pulls 120ml has yielded 490mg of off white (hopefully) mescalito. swim shall be testing it out tonight. my hats off to you sir peace ooft.. You lucky lucky man! Lettuce know how you get on matey. Soon! "accept the possibility that you may never come back, then your mind is truly open."
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The Root
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very very nice - u should be proud - that stuff looks damn nice. antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".
IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.
Quote: ‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell Quote: ‹xtechre› cheese is great He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.
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Phlux, SWIM too has had minimal success at extracting using other teks so he looks forward to trying this one out soon, however the starting material will be in the form of dried strips/chips. SWIM is assuming that there is no need to grind/powder the strips prior to heating in the acidic solution but he is curious about what reduction volume to aim for per amount of dried material. SWIM appreciates any advice and thanks already for all the helpful posts!
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I've just started this tek with 250g of dried cactus chips and 1.5 litres of distilled water for the 1st brew. After 30 mins of simmering the tea is more like a soup and somewhat slimy. I am documenting this procedure as I go along. "In chemistry, not quite right means out and out wrong" - Alexander Shulgin
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Kalt und Heiß, Schwarz und Rot, Kürper und Geist, Liebe und Chaos
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darkstate wrote:I've just started this tek with 250g of dried cactus chips and 1.5 litres of distilled water for the 1st brew. After 30 mins of simmering the tea is more like a soup and somewhat slimy. I am documenting this procedure as I go along. It will be quite slimy in the beginning - the sliminess will subside after a couple of hours of shimmering. Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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swim started with 100g dry whole chips and 1 ltr of water squeezed half a lemon, 2 hour simmer(topped water up if needed). pour off liquid add another ltr water squeez half lemon, simmer 1 hour, here swim poured off the tea and put the pot straight in the freezer for 24 hours. then boiled 500 ml water and added to frozen chips brought to a simmer for a further hour. no lemon added. ended up with 400ml of tea wtich was further reduced to 200 ml before baseification I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.
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Yes, after a while it became less gooey. I did a total of 4 brews. Here's the result so far. Gonna let this sit for tonight and decant and extract tomorrow! First from left... First brew 1hr Second brew 2hrs Third brew 4hrs Fourth brew + food blender 2hrs  "In chemistry, not quite right means out and out wrong" - Alexander Shulgin
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mmmmm lookin goood I'm the one that's got to die when it's time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.
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Mill wrote:Phlux, SWIM too has had minimal success at extracting using other teks so he looks forward to trying this one out soon, however the starting material will be in the form of dried strips/chips. SWIM is assuming that there is no need to grind/powder the strips prior to heating in the acidic solution but he is curious about what reduction volume to aim for per amount of dried material. SWIM appreciates any advice and thanks already for all the helpful posts! I certainly wouldn't powder the material. It will just make removing the solid particles from the tea a long and frustrating progress. It's pretty easy to exaust the cactus with a few long simmers. I don't think the reduction volume matters too much, as long as it's a managable amount. 500ml is probably a good rough guide.
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