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#1 Posted : 3/30/2010 3:51:13 AM

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Once upon a time, many moons ago, I got some orange'ish powder of a more chalky texture and not like a crystal.

I ate this powder maybe weighed 1 or 2 grams a most and had the best trip ever. But to this day I have no idea what it was.

The effect was like a *Narcotic Hallucinogen* Very much like knoding on Opium, going in an out of dreams but with visual Hallucinations very undulating wave like and if I am not mistaken my coffee table turned into a tiger for a moment, but I was not frightened. I remember telling this to my friends the next day. I think the drug lasted for a few hours maybe 4 or 5 , not that sure on the time.

Does this sound like any drug you know of ?

Thanks for any feedback. I am dyeing to find out what it was.

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#2 Posted : 3/30/2010 4:08:43 AM

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sounds like a dxm extraction product. dxm is a morphinan by structure, therefore an opiate,
and it's hallucinogenic in higher doses.

but 2g sounds really high, and the experience would last around 8 hrs.
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#3 Posted : 3/30/2010 4:53:36 AM

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benzyme.

I suppose it could have been DXM but I have never taken DXM to compare it with. I'm guessing about the weight maybe more like 1 gram.

It was quite a buzz.
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I think it is unlikely that it was any tryptamine (DMT, bufotenine, 5-MeO-DMT, psilocin, etc) or phenetylamine (mescaline, 2-C*, etc), given your description of it as narcotic in nature and somewhat like opiates. Tryptamines and phenetylamines are generally stimulating with an intense feeling of love and joy.

I am also thinking in the lines of an NMDA antagonist like benzyme does, where DXM, ketamine and PCP is the most known. If it indeed was 1-2 grams, the substance is likely to have been very impure.

Could you provide any more information, perhaps comparison to other substances you have tried? And what physical effects were noted?
 
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#5 Posted : 3/30/2010 5:04:00 PM

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I used to be a DXM junkie.. not proud of it but just saying for my base.

If it was like you described it was not dxm...

Maybe a mixture of MDEA and a 2C ?

you should find out what your getting before just eating it Razz ... just saying
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#6 Posted : 3/30/2010 6:32:12 PM

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those are also excitatory (stimulants); they wouldn't give a narcotic feel

the other only thing i could think of is an hoasca extract, but the powdery consistency kind of negates that.
ibogaine is the same color, but the experience lasts at least 18 hours.
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#7 Posted : 3/31/2010 3:26:40 AM

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Capt_Bones wrote:
If it was like you described it was not dxm...

Maybe a mixture of MDEA and a 2C ?

What? You don't think it could be DXM, but a mixture of MDEA and 2C? That's the strangest thing I have heard all day... Neither MDEA nor 2C-* nor a combination of them would produce anything close to the effects Brian is talking about. DXM could.
 
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#8 Posted : 3/31/2010 11:47:54 AM

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Hmm I'm not quite sure just based on those descriptions, any other effects experienced?

But I thought I'd post to say I can empathize- as I've also had a fairly intense experience with a mystery substance, since then I can definitely advise that you should know the supplier and be certain what your ingesting before taking something (not that it is of any help to you now >.> ) What I took was a brownish, crystalline-powdery substance in two caps- I was told it was "like MDMA" but what I took most certainly was not MDMA. I had blackouts and felt very, very dissociative and like I was somewhere else body wise (if that makes sense) but incredibly talkative and had some fairly strong psychedelic effects- someone vanished in front of my eyes mid conversation =/ But I have taken MDA before and it certainly didn't feel like that so Ive ruled that out.
It was pretty confusing on the whole, and just based on the colour/effects I have assumed it may have been 2CB. I had a friend tell me that they had taken 2CB before and it was in a brownish, crystalline powder as well. But yeah uncertainty is frustrating.
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#9 Posted : 3/31/2010 8:36:13 PM

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Evening Glory wrote:
Capt_Bones wrote:
If it was like you described it was not dxm...

Maybe a mixture of MDEA and a 2C ?

What? You don't think it could be DXM, but a mixture of MDEA and 2C? That's the strangest thing I have heard all day... Neither MDEA nor 2C-* nor a combination of them would produce anything close to the effects Brian is talking about. DXM could.


Ok, sorry i reread it and maybe dxm, but i doubt a table would just turn into a tiger on it.

My other thought after re reading is Dimenhydrinate? It produces a heavy knock to it with a fading in and out feel. I once had a dream in the place i was in, awoke, realized it would have been impossible for that to happen. My friend once saw a cat in front of the car when, there was no cat.

Thats my best bet
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#10 Posted : 3/31/2010 9:13:28 PM

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Sounds alot like buffout to meSmile
 
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#11 Posted : 4/2/2010 1:01:13 AM

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This was many years ago when I was about 17 I guess {I'm 47 now}. I was told it was mescaline, but I did not know what that was when I was young, except that it was a Hallucinogen from a cactus. I have had a disappointing Cactus test a while back and the effect was not the same.

The visuals were very undulating more than acid but I don't remember any patterns with it. Along with the narcotic like effects it was nice.
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Could have been mescaline...it can be pretty sedating at times....I don't know if DXM was around back then?
 
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Could have been mescaline...it can be pretty sedating at times....I don't know if DXM was around back then?

Yeah, if it is a full-alkaloid extraction from cactus and not pure mescaline, it is often very sedating. That would last anywhere from 8 to 15 hours though. DXM became available over-the-counter in 1958, according to Wikipedia.
 
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kaleidoscope eyes wrote:

But I thought I'd post to say I can empathize- as I've also had a fairly intense experience with a mystery substance, since then I can definitely advise that you should know the supplier and be certain what your ingesting before taking something (not that it is of any help to you now >.> ) What I took was a brownish, crystalline-powdery substance in two caps- I was told it was "like MDMA" but what I took most certainly was not MDMA. I had blackouts and felt very, very dissociative and like I was somewhere else body wise (if that makes sense) but incredibly talkative and had some fairly strong psychedelic effects- someone vanished in front of my eyes mid conversation =/ But I have taken MDA before and it certainly didn't feel like that so Ive ruled that out.
It was pretty confusing on the whole, and just based on the colour/effects I have assumed it may have been 2CB. I had a friend tell me that they had taken 2CB before and it was in a brownish, crystalline powder as well. But yeah uncertainty is frustrating.

Yuck! That experience sounds miserable. Based on your description above, I wouldn't classify that experience as psychedelic, but rather purely dissociative / deliriant. But then again maybe there were psychedelic effects, as it was your trip / not mine. Smile

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dissociatives and psychedelics are like night and day, although some qualities may overlap (DPT, DMT, and Ibogaine have dissociative qualities).

for the most part, a psychedelic will involve you.
a dissociative will detach you.
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#16 Posted : 4/2/2010 6:11:50 AM

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Go to the store, buy a little tube of dramamine for 4 bucks, eat them. and tell us if it feels the same. This would be my bet, and people would totally do that to make money ><
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Im sure it is NOT ibogaine. Its no pleasure trip for most people (myself included).
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