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Trickster wrote:My Paypal account with a Mastercard issued by a major UK bank would not allow me to send money to the CCLE account.
"Add a Bank/Building Society Account in the United Kingdom You cannot use this credit card for this transaction. Please use another funding source."
Is there an alternative way? What the heck? You should contact your bank and demand an answer! It can't be that they are blocking the transaction because of the cause you are trying to help?
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Posts: 764 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 20-Mar-2023
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Evening Glory wrote:Trickster wrote:My Paypal account with a Mastercard issued by a major UK bank would not allow me to send money to the CCLE account.
"Add a Bank/Building Society Account in the United Kingdom You cannot use this credit card for this transaction. Please use another funding source."
Is there an alternative way? What the heck? You should contact your bank and demand an answer! It can't be that they are blocking the transaction because of the cause you are trying to help? It happened a few times in the past. The bank says it's because of Paypal policy. Can I pay to any of you guys Paypal accounts, and you forward the money to CCLE? Do not seek the truth, just drop your opinions.
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This crime is disgusting and despicable beyond words. Whoever did that is the lowest piece of shit scumbag motherfucker in existence and they need to be locked away for life, in isolation. This act was almost certainly sponsored by an organised group who want to prevent us from expanding our consciousness and having greater levels of awareness. I am confident that whoever did it will pay the price severely in due time. But don't dwell on the situation people. There is always light at the end of the tunnel. As for the loss of such rare valuables, my sincerest condolences go to you and any others who were affected. I know from direct experience what you are going through. I've also had to start over from scratch before. Not fun. My thoughts are with you Mr. Ott. I will be mailing a donation immediately. Disclaimer: All words and images posted herein under the username Jumper are strictly for entertainment purposes only, and are fictitious in nature. Swim is the imaginary character of a schizophrenic and all posts connected to said entity are the deluded ramblings of a madman, who admits that all posted data herein was electromagnetically beamed into his brain from a HAARP antenna array.
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Posts: 1139 Joined: 14-Jul-2008 Last visit: 01-Apr-2017 Location: USA
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A lot of conspiracy theories I see. The statement is being attributed to Jon Hanna, and has showed up in multiple places as an explanation for the fire.
"Jonathan had been providing a place to crash in his newly created lab/guest house for two guests, who ended up getting into a couple of physical altercations with Jonathan's neighbor. Clearly, Jonathan found this to be unacceptable, and his guests' anger was then turned onto him. While he was gone from the country, they burned his place down. Nearly all of his books are now covered soot and have to be cleaned before packing up, but thankfully only about 40-50 of them were charred and none were consumed. So he's got a bunch of sad, dirty, tedious work ahead of him, packing everything up into fruit crates, trucking it to Veracruz, shipping it by container to Cartagena de Indias, then overland to Manizales, in the Cordillera Central. Colombia as a spot to relocate likely has more to do with the fact that he has a gig and a friend he can stay with there; but it is also true that he was increasingly disenchanted with the area in Xalapa where he lived."
This is truly a shame. It is a terrible scenario. However sometimes good things come out of unexpected events. Never the less it is terrible losing ones belongings especially their hard work. Anyone who can should donate $ to show support even a few bucks. It all adds up. This community needs to stick together.
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How sad and disturbing. People can so be twisted sometimes.
Best way to support Ott would be to buy some his books. They really are excellent like pharmacotheon. He should release more into print (he didn't print that many and thus his books are often very rare) then he could raise money to fix his library and help his life. I would gladly buy some of his books that are very rare that he doesn't ever release. Someone should encourage him to do that.
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Posts: 209 Joined: 29-Aug-2009 Last visit: 10-Mar-2020 Location: In the celestial ether
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bufoman wrote:A lot of conspiracy theories I see. The statement is being attributed to Jon Hanna, and has showed up in multiple places as an explanation for the fire.
"Jonathan had been providing a place to crash in his newly created lab/guest house for two guests, who ended up getting into a couple of physical altercations with Jonathan's neighbor. Clearly, Jonathan found this to be unacceptable, and his guests' anger was then turned onto him. While he was gone from the country, they burned his place down. Nearly all of his books are now covered soot and have to be cleaned before packing up, but thankfully only about 40-50 of them were charred and none were consumed. So he's got a bunch of sad, dirty, tedious work ahead of him, packing everything up into fruit crates, trucking it to Veracruz, shipping it by container to Cartagena de Indias, then overland to Manizales, in the Cordillera Central. Colombia as a spot to relocate likely has more to do with the fact that he has a gig and a friend he can stay with there; but it is also true that he was increasingly disenchanted with the area in Xalapa where he lived."
This is truly a shame. It is a terrible scenario. However sometimes good things come out of unexpected events. Never the less it is terrible losing ones belongings especially their hard work. Anyone who can should donate $ to show support even a few bucks. It all adds up. This community needs to stick together.
If that statement is true, then in someways that is even worse than it being some cloak and dagger operation. Methtical
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Posts: 1183 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 12-May-2024 Location: Scotland
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Evening Glory wrote:What the heck? You should contact your bank and demand an answer! It can't be that they are blocking the transaction because of the cause you are trying to help? Could well be that paypal dont approve, they dont approve of maya-ehtnobotanicals!
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I had no problem with donating money through PayPal.
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Posts: 1139 Joined: 14-Jul-2008 Last visit: 01-Apr-2017 Location: USA
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Yea, I love Ott and have read almost all of his books. It has taken me years to collect them. They are prized treasures. In some ways I enjoy them more and treasure them as they were so hard to get, especially my copy of Shamanic Snuffs or Entheogenic Errhine. It is bound in beautiful leather and hand numbered and signed. This took years of careful watching on ebay and amazon and contacting many bookshops. Finally I snagged a copy for under $200. Some copies sell for over $700.
While collecting can be fun, it is the information which is so important. Thus I feel that there should be more copies available. Maybe make a few collector editions and then release a bunch of regular copies. Ott is very into collecting books (he has a little spiel in pharmacotheon about it) and I think that he wants his works to be rare treasures and appreciated. Many of his works can still be obtained for reasonable prices and I urge anyone who ha to obtain them while they still can. He is an excellent writer and his use of the english language is impressive and motivating. I hope though that this fire shows him the importance of more wide spread dissolution of information.
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