When I started doing DMT, I was usually sitting half-lotus/meditation posture. I had some profound experience, and often ended up moving my body/hands, singing etc in order to guide the experience.

Since reading advice on techniques, I now lie down once I feel the last hit taking over... and I wonder, if this has changed my experiences. I feel perhaps it might make the experience more passive when one is lying down.

Its interesting to compare - as when doing Aya out in ecuador the shaman would say you should sit up to receive the visions, that lying in a sleeping position is not good.

Curious to read peoples thoughts/experiences on this.

I could never lay down, personally. I like my back straight as the super conscious energy flows. It just feels right to me. I usually sit in half lotus as well, bust out mudras, harmonize my vocals, etc. [clap.hands]
Sometimes I do get on my hands and knees though, like the sphynx, and stretch, sometimes pressing my forehead to my palms on the ground. Prostate. Other times rolling my head around like a lion :]
You just gotta experiment to find what works best for you!

I like to sit on a couch or bed with some slight reclining. As long as my torso and legs are comfortable, that's all i really care about as far as "body" position specificity. I have found that sitting so that my head can fall back is perfect. I've been doing it both unintentionally and intentionally since my first spice experience. I've realized house is completely right; look up, they're there waiting for you to see them. For some reason I think I've had my deepest communications with the entities when my head is able to loll backwards onto pillows or the back of a couch. Sometimes I roll around at various points, I have found it to change the visuals on occasion. Do what you feel, unlike presidential elections, no ones gonna call you out for being a flip-flopper (also, when did it become unfashionable to change your stance on things, especially as new information is realized???) for changing your style. I've had experiences where I had to "dive" facefirst into my pillow after having no visuals and thinking I was gonna be mindfucked. Upon making contact with the pillow I encountered a bejeweled tesseracting skull, it was beautiful and amazing.

SB

I prefer to be on my back or semi proped up. A couple weeks ago I didn't expect to have such a full on breakthrough on a tiny bit of changa I had left. I was aware that I was sitting somewhere, but I felt the slightest nudge would knock me off into the abyss and pretty much spent the whole trip trying to keep my head from toppling over... so now I lay down to avoid that.
Another time I decided to blast off in the bath (dont ask). My body melted into the water and my head was all that was left. It felt nice until panic set in... I remember thinking my head was just floating on the surface of the water and was going to topple over, since I had no body I wouldn't be able to save myself from drowning. The water became really heavy on my chest, but I managed to throw myself out the side of the bath and ride the rest of the trip out bollock naked on the floor. Never again!

House... was it you that had that incredible pharma journey and ended up transforming into the Sphinx on the floor?

That was joebono, camakazi ;]

haha... I remember reading that and thinking I got to start working with pharma asap. A little reminder of the awesome power DMT possesses

Ive done it both ways, but for me, its strange when im laying down.

I like to lie down on a pile of blankets, with my legs hanging over the side of the bed.

I used to lie down, untill I had a few purge sessions on my back, not cool with hyperspace all around.

Ive learnt now to rest my back against something. If I do lay down, it will be on my side after I have come back.

I've done it in a recliner chair and that was ideal - even feels like being in a rocket ship ready for launch.

No longer having access to such things, what works for me is to sit up fully while consuming the spice, but once the equipment is down to lie on my back, preferably hands at my sides, palms up. It feels like a symbolic submissive/surrender position and seems to assist with the process of letting the spice have its way with me. . .

Peace & Love,
Pandora

While SWIM hasn't tested a full breakthrough while lying down (been meaning to for a while)

He has tested CEVs on mushrooms, pharma, mescaline, caapi, datura, and a few others

While being upright and in a bright or at least not-dark room seems to produce the most immediate visions, they tend to be mostly geometric shapes and not vary a whole lot. Also they seem to need a higher dose than the next position

The best position for visions (on all vision-producing substances, for SWIM) is lying on your side and as dark as possible, though dim can work, pitch black seems best.
The reasoning seems to be that this position puts his mind in a pre-sleep state which is basically effortlessly wandering thoughts and eyes focused in one spot, not darting around.
While these visions generally take a bit to happen, especially on medium/high doses if he relaxes and focuses on his breath, the thoughts wander in with them very interesting visions.

Now when SWIM told his roommate about this he was like "when I lie down to go to sleep.... I go to sleep..." so maybe SWIM's weird like that, but it is the wandering thoughts and still eyes that seem to be the cause.

Example:
While coming down from smoking a medium dose (20mg) of white DMT, SWIM was down enough to no longer see visions in the light and in an upright position.
He laid on his side and pulled a blanket over his head. Within a minute thoughts of his job floated through his head, (he's a gymnastics coach) he though of 2 adorable sisters, Sadie and Mila,
he though "They are so adorable, I just want to eat them up" then a slightly blurry vision of a child came and a big head came and it bit off and devoured half of the child.

SWIM immediately open's his eyes and exclaimed "that was fucked up!"


The visions are sometimes related to the thoughts but sometimes they are completely different, but the weirdly unrelated visions lead more thoughts in turn making more visions.

SWIM was hoping that he could adapt this to bright areas and/or upright positions, but for him the slight visions and the light prevent his eyes from staying still and thoughts don't flow as well.
While on his side in the light the visions are much much less as well.


SWIM is a huge hard-head for visuals, he knows that for many they come much easier.

His brother has told him visuals he's seen and they shock him so much. On 3.5g of cubensis and 5g of syrian rue he told me he was in a store and the whole world became one big tracer. He was able to say "Mandy, lets get out of her, we need to leave" he was also able to walk out with her, reach into his pocket and give her some change.

For SWIM to have that many visuals he would have to be about 2x as high as is needed to not be able to move or speak.... he's been unable to move 3 times (orally that is, twice on pharma, once on LSD) and everything looked a little wavy with spots and speckle, enlarging and stretch, but nothing at all close to a tracer-world.

So far when smoking I have always felt utterly catatonic and completely paralyzed, when attempting to sit up too soon after the peak has ebbed away I feel quite dizzy and fall back down into a lying position. So I always lay down on my comfy couch with lots of cushions propping myself just upright enough to smoke. Though sitting up might make for an interesting experience, I think if I physically attempted it I would just fall over. I don't even attempt to stand up till at least 20 minutes after smoking.
By contrast though, my friend that I smoke with can stand up and even dance when the peak hits (much to my amazement as I haven't heard of anyone else being able to physically move enough to do that.)
So I think it just varies between people and what is going to be most comfortable for them.

Laying down certainly can induce a sleepy state.
Now, if you prefer to be alert and fully concious about what is happening, it maybe would be better if you sit.

But I had some nice trips so far laying in my bed.

Maybe we should start a poll.
Would be interesting!