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so, i soaked my little kit and waited a couple weeks. the flush came. as i was harvesting the first 4 or 5 mushrooms, others were in varying stages of development. now, a couple more weeks later, i've got about 4 mini mushrooms that haven't seemed to grow much over the past 5 or 6 days and a handful of little pins that all seem to be stunted as well. is this flush done? the kit said to re-soak and do it all over again up to 5 times. my questions now are: 1. do i pull up these little stunted pins before i re-soak? 2. the weather has been getting a little warm here in southern california so i've been trying to keep them in the coolest places in my house. how important is light? also, during the really hot days is it no good to consider putting them in the fridge for a few hours? 3. these little half-grown guys are pretty blue colored....they gonna have any potency even though they never fully matured? any and all help is deeply appreciated....these mushrroms are really a joy to have around the house! LOVE AND GRATITUDE!! "Rise above the illusion of time and you will have tomorrow's wisdom today."
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Yes, pick all aborts, then soak and wait for the next flush. Make sure to collect them, they're more potent than whole fruits by weight. edit: Aborts can be recognized by their blueish/blackish cap color.
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Yes definitely pîck the small pins aswell and re-soak. Light is also pretty important so putting it in the dark is not a good idea. By the way, i have just been informed that 5 flushes is very uncommon. After the third flush the mushrooms mostly won't get that big anymore. Also something that might be handy: After having had all your flushes don't throw the kit away. You can soak the mycelium in alcohol, then wait till it evaporates and make tea out out of it. Apparently it will be enough for two persons to experience a stron voyage. Enjoy Peace Elpo "It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
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Elpo wrote:Yes definitely pîck the small pins aswell and re-soak. Light is also pretty important so putting it in the dark is not a good idea.
By the way, i have just been informed that 5 flushes is very uncommon. After the third flush the mushrooms mostly won't get that big anymore. Also something that might be handy:
After having had all your flushes don't throw the kit away. You can soak the mycelium in alcohol, then wait till it evaporates and make tea out out of it. Apparently it will be enough for two persons to experience a stron voyage.
Enjoy
Peace Elpo fascinating! what does the alcohol soak do? i soak the mycelium in alcohol, wait til it evaps....what does that do? then i boil the 'alcohol cleaned' mycelium to make the tea....? thanks for all the great info guys! L&G! "Rise above the illusion of time and you will have tomorrow's wisdom today."
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The mycelium also produce psiloc(yb)in. Just soak the mycelium in alcohol (or acidic water for that matter), filter out the mycelium, and you are left with alcohol or water with a lot of goodies. You can then either drink it as it is, or evaporate it to yield a highly potent goo. Good luck!
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and how would one best consume this goo? vaporize it? eat it? i've never heard of this before....i'm super excited!! L&G! "Rise above the illusion of time and you will have tomorrow's wisdom today."
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You would not be able to vaporize it, as psilocin can't be smoked. Put the goo in capsules, dissolve it in a glass of juice, do whatever you like! Safe travels, brother.
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The Enlightend One
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Evening Glory wrote:You would not be able to vaporize it, as psilocin can't be smoked. Put the goo in capsules, dissolve it in a glass of juice, do whatever you like! Safe travels, brother. What would the dosage be for something like that? Can you Imagine? From one single Idea everything appeared here. RZA
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Big Inhale wrote:Evening Glory wrote:You would not be able to vaporize it, as psilocin can't be smoked. Put the goo in capsules, dissolve it in a glass of juice, do whatever you like! Safe travels, brother. What would the dosage be for something like that? That is the tricky part on that... You can't know exactly. "It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
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Evening Glory wrote:You would not be able to vaporize it, as psilocin can't be smoked. oh really? then why are there teks for psilocin freebase? I was under the impression that it could be smoked, but temperature has to be near-perfect or you'll destroy your product... Wiki โข Attitude โข FAQThe Nexian โข Nexus Research โข The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. ืื ืื ืืขืืืจ
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SnozzleBerry wrote:oh really? then why are there teks for psilocin freebase? I was under the impression that it could be smoked, but temperature has to be near-perfect or you'll destroy your product...
Well, it is theoretically possible, but no credible records showing success has been published. Psilocin is very unstable and will easily be destroyed by heat, but you are correct that psilocin freebase given the exact correct temperature might be active by vaporization. When it comes to extracts from mushrooms or mycelium this does not apply, as the psilocin there is not freebased. Big Inhale wrote:What would the dosage be for something like that? Whatever your intuition tells you!
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Evening Glory wrote: Psilocin is very unstable and will easily be destroyed by heat, but you are correct that psilocin freebase given the exact correct temperature might be active by vaporization. When it comes to extracts from mushrooms or mycelium this does not apply, as the psilocin there is not freebased.
It would be if you did an A/B extraction... Wiki โข Attitude โข FAQThe Nexian โข Nexus Research โข The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. ืื ืื ืืขืืืจ
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Elpo wrote:Yes definitely pîck the small pins aswell and re-soak. Light is also pretty important so putting it in the dark is not a good idea.
By the way, i have just been informed that 5 flushes is very uncommon. After the third flush the mushrooms mostly won't get that big anymore. Also something that might be handy:
After having had all your flushes don't throw the kit away. You can soak the mycelium in alcohol, then wait till it evaporates and make tea out out of it. Apparently it will be enough for two persons to experience a stron voyage.
Enjoy
Peace Elpo I like the alcohol-soak-for-cakes recipe. I'm gonna be giving that a shot, real soon probably. Got some Z-Strain cakes that are on the starting their fourth flush. 4 cakes, 3 of them produced bigger, but less fruits on flush 2 & 3, one cake produced smaller fruits on its third flush. Dunked and rolled for each flush. Room temps 72. Mist and fan 3 times daily. FC is just a little clear rubbermaid. Its been my experience that later flushes produce bigger, fatter, but fewer fruits. Those are the ones most ideal for prints I would say. Although I don't make prints yet. First flush is almost always alot of shrooms, four to five inches long, thin, small caps, in clutches of four and five, growing on the top, the sides, the bottoms. I'll definetly post the results of the alcohol-soak, sounds interesting.
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So ilpt found one of those kits laying in the metropolitan dust. He managed got it flush for 6 times and wanna milk it much more. However he is leaving his place for two weeks. He just puted the lid and showed it in the fridge for now. Would it be alright for such a long time? If not what else should he do. Btw. The kit is mckenai strain. As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
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kemist wrote:So ilpt found one of those kits laying in the metropolitan dust. He managed got it flush for 6 times and wanna milk it much more. However he is leaving his place for two weeks. He just puted the lid and showed it in the fridge for now. Would it be alright for such a long time? If not what else should he do. Btw. The kit is mckenai strain. I doubt he'll be getting more then 6 flushes. Try soaking it like described above. I was told that a kit can be held for up to 3 months. So it depends how long he has it... Peace "It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
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Quote:Light is also pretty important so putting it in the dark is not a good idea. Mushrooms don't need light to grow. They just grow toward light. 6 flushes is pretty spent. but if you want to put in the effort you can still probably get a couple fractional sized shrooms. You guys really get strong experiences from alcohol extracts of mycelium? I've heard of people eating entire cakes and not feeling anything cause the mycelium is much weaker in goods. I throw my cakes into a compost pile when spent and I usually get another flush from them that way which works better then trying to get another flush in the fruiting chamber. The flushes seem to come out different too. like less mushrooms but bigger in size. โฮปlฯฮตrฮทฮนฯฮณโ Kambo.me ForumโInternet Security Walk-Through [url=https://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=395.0]Tobacco DisinformationPM me about personal Herbalist consultations. Can do it over PMs as to not reveal personal information.
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^^Actually I'm not sure about this. I think Psilocybe cubensis, while phototrophic, does require light to initiate the fruiting stage of its life cycle as well. Also they grow all malformed when kept in the darkness all the time (trust me on this!)
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Thanks for correcting me. I wouldn't try growing them in complete darkness but you don't need a light specifically for them. I've never used anything more than regular room lighting. โฮปlฯฮตrฮทฮนฯฮณโ Kambo.me ForumโInternet Security Walk-Through [url=https://kambo.me/smf/index.php?topic=395.0]Tobacco DisinformationPM me about personal Herbalist consultations. Can do it over PMs as to not reveal personal information.
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Yeah I think they are incredibly light sensitive, any light will trigger fruitings.
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kemist wrote:So ilpt found one of those kits laying in the metropolitan dust. He managed got it flush for 6 times and wanna milk it much more. However he is leaving his place for two weeks. He just puted the lid and showed it in the fridge for now. Would it be alright for such a long time? If not what else should he do. Btw. The kit is mckenai strain. Considering the recommendations that 6 flushes is pretty spent, keep it in the fridge, when he gets back, dunk and roll and try fruiting again. I'm in the same boat, on about flush 5 now. Leaving for a week. Don't know if I should just let them do their thing while I'm gone, or just stall em out in the fridge and dunk and roll when i get back. Last time I left some for a week, came back and my fruiting chamber looked like a jungle of mushrooms. Was pretty neat. Any longer and they would have fouled though.
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