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#61 Posted : 3/21/2010 12:39:01 AM
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No need to continue arguing. Waiting for Ant´s next posts with great interest...

Edit.

I seemed to have been a very slow writer...
 

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#62 Posted : 3/21/2010 12:52:06 AM

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awesome antrocles, again, I am sorry for the doubt. sometimes I just get weird. keep us updated, will ya?
only reason I was skeptical is because I've never heard/experienced anything quite like this.
honestly, I am totally fascinated.
I know the possibilities the neurotransmission yields are infinite and universal.
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#63 Posted : 3/21/2010 1:11:02 AM

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Just my 2c after the fact.

Spoken language (and its cousin written language) are extremely inefficient ways of communicating because they rely completely on symbols to express meaning. They fall especially short when trying to communicate a psychedelic experience because your mind doesn't have symbolic language to describe what you are experiencing.

I enjoy antrocles posts very much, he has a knack for colorful language and does a much better job of trying to describe his subjective DMT experiences than most people. However in the end he falls into the same trap that we all do, attempting to use symbolic language to describe something that defies description. SO while I enjoy reading his attempts at description I'm not naive enough to think that my interpretation of his language is even close to accurate.

So, realistically, any criticism or praise I may have for what he writes is pretty irrelevant, because in the end all you get is a short preview of a crude symbol of what is actually happening.


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#64 Posted : 3/21/2010 1:44:27 AM

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Thank you Ant for continuing to be a source of inspiration. When I start to wonder if I am ever going to have (and then remember) one of those incredible, life altering journies that I have read about (not just on the Nexus), I read a post from one of the many folks here that are blazing the trail for us, and I try again.


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#65 Posted : 3/21/2010 6:03:16 PM
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These alien things...I once read a report of jorkest, where he described a dream that included aliens, that was more or less identical with dreams i've had.

It goes like this: i'm walking through a forest, around where i live. When i enter the town where i live, i see that a war has been raging around and everything hes been destroyed. I start looking for friends of me and my mother and sister when i see an alien airship in the sky. They are far away, yet i KNOW they are coming for me and i know they have already located me, yet i try to tell myself that it's probably all my imagination and it's maybe just a military airplane. But while i'm running through the streets it keeps coming closer. If i run into another direction it still keeps coming after me. Slowly i start to realize that all of this is real and that i have seen it before. They trap me in some sort of beam that's like a gravity net: it pulls me up into this vehicle. Being halfway in between the earth and their vehicle i'm still telling myself that it can't be real, that it cannot be that THIS is what everything in life boils down to, THIS cannot be the answer to all questions i ever had. But i'm more and more accepting that it is and that it's been told to me a long time ago. I'm still asking myself whether this is real or whether i've just taken too much psychedelics and have definately lost my mind. Have i gone too far? that's the question that keeps bothering me, while i'm slowly being encompassed by their spaceship that's making this carying wave type of noise. Mostly that's where the dream ends.

So jorkest described a dream he had that was exactly like this dream. Is that strange or what?
 
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whoa i remember that dream polytrip!! that happened a long time ago!
 
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#67 Posted : 3/21/2010 10:39:07 PM
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whoa i remember that dream polytrip!! that happened a long time ago!

Does that mean that there three of us who've had the same dreams on aliens?

We need some kind of freud to explain all this, preferably without bringing oedipus into the equation.
 
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#68 Posted : 3/21/2010 10:58:23 PM

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or there is only TWO of us.. Pleased
 
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#69 Posted : 3/21/2010 11:06:36 PM
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or there is only TWO of us.. Pleased

that would mean that spork and jorkest are some sort of symbiotic life-form.
 
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#70 Posted : 3/22/2010 12:15:21 AM

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I believe Ant is really great at articulating his thoughts on his journeys and tries as hard as possible to put his experiences into a context where we can understand it. In my opinion, he portrays his journeys in a way which makes us fellow travelers understand the lessons learned and meaning behind, not only what spice can teach us, but also how it can benefit humans in every day life. The fact that he has the stamina and dedication to do the work he does will never make me think any thing other than, wow! What an amazing human being.

I am not trying to sounds like a complete brown noser... i just hear a lot of truth and learn a lot from his posts. Peace and love to all the people who make this place feel like such a family. I lub you all Smile
 
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#71 Posted : 3/22/2010 2:12:08 AM

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I'm sorry if I sound judgemental or rude, honestly that is not my intention. I enjoy reading trip reports and I have read and enjoyed Ants.

I do have a concern though. Can using to much DMT (or any phsychadelic for that matter) cause a blur in reality and the halucinations experianced?

The reason I bring this up, through my years I have also explored brave new worlds many many times, I have experianced ego death many times, I have voyaged into this unconcious mind. There is so much about ones self that can be learned. But I have never left feeling I was a prophet of the true origins of life. That seems like a huge leap. A self proclaimed deciple of sorts and so many to fall in lock step is kind of scary.

Ant, I love you man. I've seen some shit that kept me up at night. I felt as though I have met and spoken to God and he has guided me through these plant teachers. But do you guys realy believe we are the love children of aliens and humans from eons ago when our worlds ran into each others? And Ant has a genetic makeup that allows him to tap into this world to spread the word?

I can see it now what the outsiders will say when they read this... "dangerous drug dmt causes mental break resulting in new dmtnexus cult lead by their prophet ant." next up...... Even more government breathng down our necks. If us insiders think this is sounding dangerously off, think what the rest of the world thinks and how they will react.

It was a great trip report, but it was not prophacy.

I do feel these plants can open our third eye to allow us to use more of our brains. I have experianced unbelievable shit that is unexplainable. But I'm not jumping on the bandwagon.


Please don't flame me for my opinnion and honest concerns for my brothers and sisters.

Rant over.
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ThirdEyeVision wrote:
"dangerous drug dmt causes mental break resulting in new dmtnexus cult lead by their prophet ant."


I know what you mean TEV... but I can see that there is no such cult going on. We are just trying to support our brave brother over here... nothing scary about that.
All he is doing is sharing his experiences and ideas. He is not claiming (as far as I know) that he is "The One & Only" and that we should worship him or give him money or our lives in order to achieve some higher purpose (like the cult leaders do).

I know that you understand that this is a place where people are trying to figure out psychedelic stuff and sometimes speculate on this type of philosophical themes (Origin of life, God, Transcendence or Destiny). Most psychedelics tend to cause this effect on people.

And when someone is brave enough to share his thoughts, ideas and freaky experiences... we need to support him.

I know how it feels to share something that comes from deep inside your hearth only to receive humiliations or destructive criticism.
I think many people here have faced the mentioned example in Real Life (not in a forum). So yeah, it's difficult... and complicated.

Some people say that the DMT experience cannot be described with words... hell, sometimes even Life itself cannnot be described with words.

P.S.

Thinking that you are "The One" and claiming universal power and understanding is a normal thing in a lot of shamans.
You would be surprised if you read what Maria Sabina (a mexican Mazatec) claimed to be. She almost said she was the fucking goddess of the universe.

I repeat, nothing weird about this whole shamanic awakening. This just proves that Antrocles, is without a doubt, a true shaman.

 
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#73 Posted : 3/22/2010 3:06:57 AM

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clouds wrote:
ThirdEyeVision wrote:
"dangerous drug dmt causes mental break resulting in new dmtnexus cult lead by their prophet ant."


I know what you mean TEV... but I can see that there is no such cult going on. We are just trying to support our brave brother over here... nothing scary about that.
All he is doing is sharing his experiences and ideas. He is not claiming (as far as I know) that he is "The One & Only" and that we should worship him or give him money or our lives in order to achieve some higher purpose (like the cult leaders do).

I know that you understand that this is a place where people are trying to figure out psychedelic stuff and sometimes speculate on this type of philosophical themes (Origin of life, God, Transcendence or Destiny). Most psychedelics tend to cause this effect on people.

And when someone is brave enough to share his thoughts, ideas and freaky experiences... we need to support him.

I know how it feels to share something that comes from deep inside your hearth only to receive humiliations or destructive criticism.
I think many people here have faced the mentioned example in Real Life (not in a forum). So yeah, it's difficult... and complicated.

Some people say that the DMT experience cannot be described with words... hell, sometimes even Life itself cannnot be described with words.

P.S.

Thinking that you are "The One" and claiming universal power and understanding is a normal thing in a lot of shamans.
You would be surprised if you read what Maria Sabina (a mexican Mazatec) claimed to be. She almost said she was the fucking goddess of the universe.

I repeat, nothing weird about this whole shamanic awakening. This just proves that Antrocles, is without a doubt, a true shaman.



Hey I'm all for exploring the concious and unconcious mind. I too am a seeker. I too have been there and seen visions like this. I'm not laughing at Ant. I comend him for sharing. It just seems the lines are blurring between reality and the visions.
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#74 Posted : 3/22/2010 3:20:18 AM

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i understand what you are saying TEV and i respect it. i will say it once again and as loud as my fingers can type it that i am not the buddha. i am not god. i am nothing that each and every one us isn't.

as i type this, i am still very much in both worlds. 5 back-to-back deep breakthroughs with full Caapi Copy inhibition have seen me live a long time in another place. almost 2 hours of no-man.

Can using too much DMT (or any phsychadelic for that matter) cause a blur in reality and the halucinations experianced? absolutely. but in the best possible way. just know that i am extremely high-functioning in this world. i can communicate with anyone about anything. the truth is that, aside from a giant tattoo on my hands, i would simply be seen as a genuine spirit with a tremendous love for helping and healing. i do it for a living, keep in mind... (personal trainer, coach)

however, i have most definitely reached a point now where i am so comfortable being so completely ego-destroyed that certain 'abilities' have started to present themselves while in hyperspace. namely, i can tune in and 'listen' to the carrier wave in a way never before possible. it is a communication as far as i can tell. it is responsible for all imagery and 'direction' in hyperspace. it, if one can learn to focus (much as a deep meditative focus) on it, can awaken things inside one's very DNA.

with continued exposure to this change in frequency and vibration, a permanent shift in perception is becoming evident in my life. i feel more perceptive of the 'energy' of things. of the very glue that binds things. in short, i am becoming self aware of a self that is not limited to this dimension.

we are all capable of attaining this.

i use DMT more than most so perhaps i have simply gotten here a little sooner. i will continue to use DMT until my heart no longer feels i am growing from it. i do not think this will be anytime soon.

if the definition of shaman is one who is able to walk comfortably in other dimensions, then perhaps i am becoming a shaman. i would never call myself that. i would merely call myself a humble servant. anything i feel i have gained from my work with DMT is immediately shared with all of you.

just know that i would be equally immediate in my sharing of anything i felt was going wrong as a result of my work with DMT.

i guess it's just important to make it as clear as possible that i have no complex of any kind here. i am no better than anyone. i am a miner in a mine full of miners. it is my duty and my pleasure to share any gold i find in my little nook i'm working on.

that being said, please send all of your donations and letters of devotion to:

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directions to the next cult gathering are now up on mapquest... Pleased

MUCH LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
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#75 Posted : 3/22/2010 3:29:12 AM

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antrocles wrote:
i have been afraid to post something lately. it started a couple months ago with a particular breakthrough i had and, as i have been having more and more (and now pretty much exclusively) the same types of experieces, i feel like it is just something that needs to be shared with you all.

this is not a god complex.

this is not a deluded, insane mind.

those who have met me and worked with me can vouch for my 'sanity'. what i am about to say here is the most abstract thing i've ever put forth on this forum and i do have a fear that i will be seen as wierd or 'gone off the deep end' for saying it...but the fact that it is everything that i am being show for some time now and the message is becoming more and more pronounced and clear compels me to at least put it out there.

many 'pieces' of this puzzle have come over the past 16 months of daily breakthroughs. however, with a good 10 day break to integrate all of the rewiring and to meditate on the lessons i've been given, i have had some of the greatest awakenings of this entire process.

and then i started working again. Shocked

i'm just gonna tap this out and let the chips fall where they may.

i have been shown, in images and scenarios as real as any in this density, a vision of our origin. of a planet colliding with what was to become earth hundreds of thousands of years ago. of societies that have risen and fallen in the wake of a giant planet's return into our solar system. of how all life that exists on this planet, also exists (and originated from?) another planet. that during that collision so long ago, water and spores and amino acids and all the building blocks of our web of life here on earth were exchanged and deposited from this other world.

i have been taken to this other world countless times. it is as familiar as walking into the house you grew up in. the archetecture is a fusion of egyptian, mayan...and yet...so much more impossibly advanced. there is a golden shimmer to everything. like it is all made out of gold. the beings that live here are much larger than humans. they all have a tremendous capacity for consciousness. they ARE consciousness.

they are evolved as a whole. they have their individual selves, but they are 'connected' in a way we are only just beginning to realize might be possible here.

there are crafts. great crafts that are propelled by consciousness. held together by consciousness. the crafts ARE the beings in a sense. they are simply so much more advanced than we in this physcial reality.

i have been in contact now with these beings on a level that makes me both rapturous and deeply insecure. it has reached a point now with my work where i can consciously request communication and one or more will meet me immediately.

gone are the rooms. gone is the inability to communicate or be at any sort of facility over 'there'. with consistency, my breakthroughs go something like this:

one giant, deep inhale from my GVG (approx 20-25 mg spice)

a grid of geometric webbing with a connection port...almost like a hose...with a circular link-up decends down toward me. the carrier wave gets louder as the link gets nearer.

a connection is made

i am on a ship, i am on a world, a being/beings shows me something or gives me some sort of test to pass. this portion, the deepest portion, has a solidity to it. things are almost plasic-like in their texture. colored, solid...3-dimensional.

after some time, i am dropped down into a aspect of consciousness where everything is no longer 'solid' per se, but rather constructed out of an almost see-through material. i've come to call it 'thought-chitecture' it is as if all things are only so because they are held together by consicous intent. it is always in this particular aspect that i meet a very intelligent insectoid race of beings. they operate all of the machinery and also do much of the healing work i've ever undergone.

strangely, it is on my way back that i have had my deepest entity contacts. almost completely back, i will feel almost like a towel being rung out for every last drop of information. it will feel like a deep, warm coursing of blood throughout my body accompanied by a hug from god. in this 'squeeze', a powerful vision will orgasm forth and i will be face to face with someone and the deepest message of the entire journey will be told to me with jaw-dropping illumination.

this has been the norm for some time. one of the last journeys i had before my hiatus was also one that really started to tie everything together for me.

i was on THIS planet, THOUSANDS of years ago. i was making love with a beautiful, asian-esque looking native woman. all of the other natives were celebrating this union. my ship was landed several meters from where we lay in a field. others of my race were around and the LOVE that was present was palpable beyond anything.

as can only be experienced in hyperspace, i was at once making love and simultaneously watching and experiencing this event in every possible way. i looked at the woman and her skin was brown and warm and i saw through her into the earth upon which she lay. the earth seemed to consume her and support her. i saw her flesh blend into the earth and then be reborn from the earth with every thrust. it was rapturous and sacred.

my attention shifted to myself and my vantage changed to give me a perspective slightly above my own form. like a microscope, my sight zoomed in deeper and deeper on my body to reveal a thin, membraneous suit. it was enervated with impossibly numerous, technologically advanced circuitry. it was the most advanced false body imagineable. i was not of this earth. i was a visitor here. living here, breeding here, being a part of this world...but not from here.

i was deeply shaken by this particular journey. i remember distinctly having a few days of deep meditation on this notion. something about it felt.....right.......i still feel this strange lightness...

on that note, i took a break. ten days later i went back. i had been feeling a tremendous connection to this particular race of beings i had been seeing time and again. i wanted to be shown more.

my first journey was a huge dose for me. i broke through and went straight into a complete ego-death. a complete looping eternity that some part of my soul recognized immediately as a test.

i made no attempt to struggle. i surrendered completely. if this would be forever, i would be here forever. i am more than all of this. i am the very heart of all of this.

and then it happened... Shocked

a being in an incredibly advanced space suit was over me. holding me with what appeared to be some sort of geometric energy grid. it was how 'they' were able to hold on to a spirit freed from it's shell. i was held and beheld. a loving, concerned examination to check over this extention of self. the being in the suit was me. my psyche was almost like a remote-controlled car down here. i was meeting my other self....

i was on a ship again. in orbit around a world that is the origin of life here. i am of this earth but not from this earth. the 'carrier wave' that i hear when i first connect is the sound of the entirety of a world. as if you could plug a fax cable into a whole planet and transfer all thoughts, knowledge, memories, feelings (although, feelings have evolved tremendously there to be seemingly pure information....much different than how we know them).

the transmission of all this information is like an alarm clock for neurons within me that have up til now been asleep. kind of like in battlestart galactica when the 5 'sleeper' cylons just started hearing music in their heads and BOOM they were awoken. the carrier wave has become everything for me. it is my connection to my home. even the visual spectacle is secondary for me. the carrier wave...it is like a mother's heartbeat to her unborn fetus..i am home...

the sounds are images. they are ideas, thoughts, experiences, past, present, future...i have had deeply visionary breakthrough experiences now where the carrier wave was NOT present and have returned much as one would from a so-so movie. visually stimulating, but noone was there. no information was downloaded.

it actually leaves me sad when this happens...

it is my belief that the plants of this world also exist on another older, more evolved world. their consciousness and the transmission/connection of it is beyond our understanding. their ability to communicate information, to elevate consciouness and to evoke changes in brain chemistry are truly magical. when these plants open frequencies within us, they put us in touch with the consciousness of all that is here....AND THERE. in THAT world.

i don't know if it's the Pleiades. i don't know if it's Nibiru told of by the Sumarians. i cannot say where it is.... i just know that i have come to the point now where i can actually WORK with DMT and it has begun to tell me a story. something massive is coming. an age of evolving. a time for us to become the gods we have forgotten we are. i stand for the growth and evolution of all who would go forth into this great awakening and ring in a new age of unity. there is something wonderful beyond measure coming. for those who would begin now to do away with defunct thought cycles and fear-based forms of behaviour, you will all be entrusted with a new paradise. a world capable of finally awakening as a planetary whole.

my name is antrocles. i am here to help.

WITH LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!


So I began on March 16 and you print this the next day. Man, I have some catching up to do.I can't wait.

Inspiring, man. Hopeful. Exciting.
 
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Very inspirational Ant. Thank you for typing and please continue.

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#77 Posted : 3/22/2010 7:51:32 AM

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if I could just fit this damned 9 dimensional humming orb into the envelope, master ...

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I've been reluctant to comment on this thread, Ant, because you're a legend, a real pillar of this fine old Hub, an amazing support, reporter and general stand-up dude. I LOVE reading your reports - they're lucid, insightful, well-written and full of gracious humour. This one, on the whole, is no different. It's an amazing, thought-provoking journey that you've had, and I thank you for sharing it with us.

But this last bit has been bothering me:

antrocles wrote:
something massive is coming. an age of evolving. a time for us to become the gods we have forgotten we are. i stand for the growth and evolution of all who would go forth into this great awakening and ring in a new age of unity. there is something wonderful beyond measure coming. for those who would begin now to do away with defunct thought cycles and fear-based forms of behaviour, you will all be entrusted with a new paradise.


This is where you seem to me to have crossed a line of sorts; it may be why you were a little reluctant to post this initially.

For me, this sounds a bit too much like a kind of evangelism.

There is a certainty in your prediction that I never feel with spice, ever. For me, it is inherently mysterious, uncertain, and beyond my understanding. That may be because of the limits of my experience with the molecule; you have certainly travelled further and more often. And so maybe certainty does await at the end of this marvellous rainbow.

But predictions of a coming new paradise freak me out a bit.

I hope you know I say this with the greatest of love, brother - not to knock you, or attack you in any way ... but I feel I had to say it.

love and gratitude, big guy

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Well, that would be very cool, if it happens. Seriously. It's not that I don't want world where we've evolved up to the next level. I'm just keeping one foot on the ground here, maybe protecting myself from disappointment. But hey, you guys are my favourite guys here ... maybe I should've kept this one to myself.
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