I only get adverse effects if I mix psychedelics with narcotic drugs. Like mdma or speed or something. Even cannabis. If I smoke on a shroom trip I'm tired afterwards instead being full of energy. I don't get the afterglow. Maybe if I smoke just a little at the end of the trip.
The only psychedelics I use these days are mushrooms and DMT and I always feel great after a trip. I don't trip very often, especially in winter time. I like to trip in nature.
But summer is coming and I'm loaded with shrooms and DMT so fun times ahead

How did Cannabis effect it for you? For me Cannabis didnt really hurt me. i had a series of bad trips that left me unstable and anxious for now two years and the only thing is Cannabis makes the anxiety slightly worst, i havent toked for 2 months now and im still having doubt as to if not smoking is REALLY making a difference. How did it effect you, did it allow bad trips to happen easier or something?

QS, I gave up cannabis for three years when i started believing that a few psychotic episodes were crossing over into my sobriety. I eased back into it gradually, and with purpose, but then a few years later a mushroom trip swerved very distinctly when I puffed midway. Reflecting back on that, I remember that I had misgivings about smoking at the time, like i just wanted it to stay the course and be clean and spiritual and I wanted to resist just being a fun guy again, but then I thought at the time that I had worked past the point of needing boundaries and I deserved to not need to be mindful of such things; I was wrong, of course, but then I had the fun of working through all that too. maybe it stuck this time, hopefully writing it down helps...

In the big picture, it seems that cannabis protects me to a level; if my mind is protected already with another thing, cannabis seems to behave differently. competing wavelengths - jealousy? or just a weird interaction...

I agree I dunno why people would act all high and mighty about people's actions when they were teenagers. Sure teenagers do the dumbest things out of all people in the world, but if you say you were any different than you are either lying or you were sheltered.

Everyone learns through mistakes and other ways but no one is perfect. People should not be so judgmental he was relating a 15 year old story jeeez.

Also many people enjoy taking psychedelics (shrooms, LSD, etc) and going to a psychedelic show. In fact these psychedelic bands make music FOR PEOPLE ON PSYCHEDELICS.

How would you go to a Shpongle party, and NOT trip?

Not everyone is a spiritual shaman, I enjoy using psychedelics for inner exploration and to help give me motivation and inspiration for life, but I see nothing wrong with taking a dose or low dose of mushrooms and having fun with your friends, as long as you know you can handle it and are responsible.

Let me start out by saying I fully agree with your last statement. It can be a nice way to unwind or bond as a group and if people are responsible, I see nothing wrong with that. Very few people are spiritual shamans or even strive to uphold those ideals. Those of us who do approach psychedlics with such a mindset, or a similar attitude, are usually viewed as weird or a little off by many recreational drug users (I'm speaking from personal experience here), to say nothing of the straight people.

As to the first part of your quote, I did many dumb things. Me and my friends throughout junior high and highschool engaged in antics, that, if we repeated them at our current age and got caught, would undoubtedly end with us in prison. Many of these antics, especially in highschool, involved alcohol and weed at some point, either prior to the act or following it. I just wanted to lay it out there that I've done dumb shit and had experienced substances as a teenager.

Fast forward to freshman year of college. I ate two grams of mushrooms with some friends, having researched them extensively, but not really knowing what to expect. We ate them in my dorm and then wandered over to the large park/forest on the edge of campus and proceeded to trip out in nature. This one experience taught me so much. It was instantly apparent, to me, that these were not substances for taking in high doses and Hunter Thompsoning through your local town center. At age 18, it was apparent to me that these things needed to be treated with respect and responsibility. I saw the larger implications that many of my friends missed. So, yes, I feel that I can say that while I was not sheltered (nor am i lying) I was never irresponsible with psychedlics because they made it quite clear not to be. As such, I have no problem calling people out who are doing irresponsible shit with psychs, even if they are teenagers, because I had the option to and never did. It's a distinction that's very obvious, the same way that when we were throwing produce off of apartment rooftops, no one accidentally or intentionally threw a person off the edge, or threw rocks, etc...There are certain things that should be inherently apparent or at least visible within the realm of common sense, in my opinion, that psychedelics must be used responsibly is one such obvious thing. Dumb shit is dumb shit, regardless of age.

Yes people enjoy taking psychedelics and going to shows, but not every person at a given psychedelic show is tripping face, or even tripping at all. Weed is a great mild psychedlic to take at a show that leads to no tripping whatsoever in the traditional sense, and many people only smoke at shows. I've gone to pink floyd shows (well technically Roger Waters) and various other psychedlic and psychedlic inspired events without tripping. That's not to act pretentious or lord it over people, just a simple fact. It's not necessary to trip just because you are going to a pink floyd laser light show. Again, if you need to take something, weed is always a relatively safe option that increases the user's appreciation of the experience without many of the risks that taking psychedelics out in the hustle and bustle of everyday society carries. I've taken acid and gone to shows, it was ok, nothing special. I've seen shows coming down from or on shrooms, again, they were nice experiences, but prevented the depth that I find to be one of the most compelling aspects of tripping. Any show I've been to on psychedelics has been in a small venue, relatively low key, and usually removed from society's center and after experiencing this a couple times, I have since refrained from doing it as I feel it hampers the experience. These are just my opinions, and I am in no way trying to pass judgement on other people's action either now or 15 years ago. This is my perception and how I choose to live my life.

peace
SB

I agree.
I found spirituality in LSD and psychs but was intro'd to them just like pot. Something that was fun to do.
And as for driving on any intoxicant as a teen? I honestly didn't know better. You don't realize the gravity of your actions at that age. At least I didn't. Now I am horrified at some of the things that I have done and would never contemplate them now.
Not to mention all the things we do intoxicated that we would never have done sober.
I am not condoning my or anyone's actions, but please don't be harsh to others who have made mistakes unless you have never made one yourself.

Different strokes for different folks I guess ... some people probably have the time of their lives taking psychedelics at shows and might even SOLELY take psychedelics at shows ya know.

Now I am not condoning driving while under the influence, no matter the age, driving while tripping is stupid.

Regardless, we don't have to jump down some guys throat that seems to be taking it more seriously now because he did stuff like that as a teenager.

Thats my only point

This is an interesting point that I never actually put into words. Many people who trip see it as something similar to weed or beer in the recreational sense. As a teenager, NO ONE I knew had any concept of tripping as a tool for growth or even a portal into other parts of the mind. We just thought of it as some wacky shit. Any talk of the power of psychedelics to transform or understand reality would have been met with disbelief even among trippers.

Cannabis eventually helped to make Dreamer isolated and so depressed, and even when he smoked it he would panic and eventually even cry. Giving up was a good thing. Problem with weed is that the negatives can creep in only after years, long after it's become your entire lifestyle.

Course, it's better than alcohol. Dreamer is ashamed of some of the things he did while a drunk young man. Being obnoxious, getting in a couple of unnecessary fights when provoked, sleeping with girls while drunk and regretting it and feeling guilty for then rejecting them, etc. Once when a student he even told a guy who he thought was taking the mickey out of his dancing that he had a gun in his car and was going to get it and kill him. Of course, he didn't have a gun and would never have done such a thing, but that is probably the worst thing he ever did in his life, and he is very ashamed of it. He drove while double the legal limit a few times, but never drunk fortunately. He does not drink any more.

No negative effects post-tripping from any psychedelics other than overuse of weed. He has smoked DMT, salvia 40x, taken shrooms, LSD, cactus, ayawaska. Some he didn't like but no problems after they'd worn off. E makes him depressed for almost a week afterwards and feel unhinged so he stopped taking it, but that's not a psychedelic.

Joe, it's really interesting to hear you say this as it reminds me of a brief chat I had a couple of years ago. I was back home for summer break after my sophomore year of college. At this point I had only eaten mushrooms 3 or 4 times and had only eaten a full 8th once. Granted, I had eaten that 8th just after school had ended, in the woods, by myself and blew the doors off my mind. It was one of the most transformative experiences I have had to date.

I was at a friends house with a large group of people and one of my friend's younger sister said something about having eaten mushrooms. Upon hearing this, I turned to her and said something like "So you must be aware of the greater implications for mankind and consciousness". She stared at me as though I had suddenly sprouted horns and tentacles and was speaking completely nonsensical gibberish. She then snorted derisively and told me something along the lines that I was deluded and that the hallucinations were fun but there was no meaning and nothing to be gained or learned from them. As you guys have said, she basically wrote it off as beer or delusion or something insignificant. This lack of understanding amongst others who have taken these substances is something I have been grappling with since day 1 of my psychedelic explorations and I still have not come to peace with it. How can so many be roused from their sleep only to yawn, roll over, and return to a fitful slumber as their house burns down around them?!?? I am thankful everyday for having stumbled upon the nexus, you guys mean so much to me.

peace
SB

I think most people don't have the potential to see the mechanics of reality on a deeper level when tripping. Psychedelics change your perception but do not necessarily deepen your senses. I think you need to have strong awareness, for psychedelics to open you up to higher levels of reality.

I agree with all these posts. there is this kid at my school that when I talk about psychedelics too my friends who knows, he jsut comes over and says your jsut on drugs. Ive tried explaining how lsd can fix the mind and help people work through problems. And while im doing this, this guy says to me it aint natural to bad trip, your just on drugs, get over it. Soo I said its all things that are locked in your head, the chemical cant creat an experience rather than release one. And he says "Dude its called being on drugs, acid doesnt "Expand your horizons, it doesnt expand concsiouness, it doesnt give you a stronger awareness" and i jsut loooked at him and walked away. In another instance me and my friends were talking about smoking DMT and that Dylan kid was walking beside us and i offered it too him. And he threw one of those comment "no dude, im not smoking crack" I said dude its naturally in your body and is in more plants than not "yeah and, that doesnt give me a reason to smoke crack" we all jsut shrugged him off and walked away. He had done acid for a whole month and got nothing out of it and he seems to think he knows it all.

Most people prefer not to think deeply about the nature of reality, consciousness, and ego. These topics are uncomfortable because they suggest that your life and everything you believe might be very different from a previously accepted construction of it. Lately my trips have had a solipsistic character to them where I realize that I am God and all the knowledge of the universe is suddenly remembered in a shattering instant. To the uninitiated, such an experience could rock the very foundation of a belief system. No good Christian would be the same again. People who are familiar with psychedelics but are ignorant or unaware or in denial of the transformative aspects of tripping probably are saving themselves from an existential crisis that they are not prepared for.

Those of us who believe that the chaos bubbling just below the thin membrane of consensus reality has real power to improve life are the members of a special order, the others are simply nonbelievers.

The chaos of a unstable reality gives me anxiety as I feel lost but I feel imust perservere and not let myself run away from it and become ignorant.

just remember that its all you brother..everything must flow..nothing is truely solid..we rise..we fall.. ..and rise again.

my sense of perseverance is encouraged by the notion that the revelation of the universe as a "chaos of an unstable reality" may possibly mean that it is much less likely that there is a conspiracy against me than it would be likely for me to succeed despite my lack of total understanding of whatever matters.

but then again, i think that's the definition of "perseverance".