When follow The Lazy Mans Guide to Extracting Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark i have some thoughts
When it says : then pour the naphtha off of the basified mix and into another container for complete evaporation.

1)Can someone explain why i have to evaporaze?
2)Cant i just put the container with naphtha in the freezer to get dmt next day?
3)What is a good way to do good evaporation?

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Sometimes you get too stressed and lazy to look for information
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When doing q21q21's tek, SWIM has found that the first naptha pull gets almost entirely soaked up by the bark-goo (so that none can be poured off). SWIM would say it's evaporation but subsequent pulls don't evaporate at all. keeping with the recommended ratio, 2nd-3rd-4th pulls all seemed like wayy more naptha than it just being "visible on the sides" as recommended.

This worries SWIM - It's as if the bark-goo gets saturated and subsequent pulls aren't getting any goodies. Plus he hasn't experienced the bark-goo "staying brown" as q21q21 stated it would when you are extracting goodies.

background: followed tek perfectly except used 220g MHRB (all other ratios the same), used crock pot at constant temp of 120-145°F instead of bowls, waited 4 hours to do 1st pull & total of four pulls done over the next 2 hours, and currently waiting for the massive 800+ ml of naptha to reduce down to about 300 before freeze precipping...

UPDATE: SWIM may have gotten a 1.6g yield from 220 MHRB, a ~0.75% total from 4 pulls. Any ideas on why the yield is lower and the aforementioned questions?

Hi.

I hope I'm posting in the right place...

SWIM knew about aya but just learned about freebase DMT . Because there are many different acacia growing wildly where he lives (he as yet not identified), he decided to give it a try. After reading a few teks he decided to go STB because PH meters aren't easy to come by and caustic soda is sold in every supermarket very cheap (sodium hydroxide 98% - 1Kg = 2 Euro). Now he has a couple questions about solvents:
There are many different brands of zippo fuel, and ronsonol is surprisingly hard to get. he could only find in a small hardware store one forgotten can (133ml) very old and rusty. it says "petroleum spirit 1271". a more common zippo fuel is David Ross "petroleum spirit 1268". are these OK for extraction? they seem to evap cleanly, but smell different. He found this list
http://en.wikipedia.org/..._UN_numbers_1201_to_1300 but he knows very little about chemistry.
Other possible source for solvents are paint thinners. he found 2 that may (or not) work: the first contains naphtha, medium aliphatic and xylene. it seems to evap cleanly, but takes a looong time. he thinks using this would extract not only DMT, and freeze precipitate may not work. right?
The second one is article number 8020 from Dyrup and contains naphtha (PETROLEUM) HYDROTREATED heavy (what is it?). there are also this numbers 265-150-3 and 265-191-7. he googled it, but once again chemistry knowledge is missing... the safety security sheet is here http://www.dyrup.pt/~/media/PT/PT_Safety%20Security%20Sheet/08020.ashx sorry couldn't find it in English.

Is any of these suitable for DMT extraction? if so, which one is the best choice?

Thanks.

Sorry about the English, I know its not very good...

How should this step be adjusted if I use "Advaced Nutrients pH UP" in place of NaOH(Lye)?


2.Prepare some basified water by fully dissolving 200 g (~13 measured tablespoons full) of NaOH powder into 2 L of tap water in a large measuring cup.

Steely: what does it contain?

Muttley: yeah the xylene containing solvent wont work for freeze precip. I would stay away from the heavy stuff.. The ones with the UN number, its hard to say, its just 'petroleum distilates' but doesnt say which fractions (heavy, light, if it has aromatics or only aliphatics,), and neither about purity

I guess most of them would work one way or another, just remember using stuff that evaps cleanly only.. You can try looking into limonene extractions too.

good luck

I already answered steely in another thread. It's pure KOH solution.

Thanks for that. I thought it would be best to post that question in my thread and the thread that was specificly made for those questions. Ordered some MHRB for the first time from "100hg". The plan... It's coming into fruition!

thanks for reply...

what could be the consequences of using solvents with medium aliphatic? SWIM doesn't really know what it is. could it influence the extraction process or the end result?

medium aliphatic sounds ok yeah.. do an evap test to see if it leaves residue..

did you try googling the specific brand SWIY can find? Sometimes one can find MSDS or more info in general of the components. But yeah in general terms it should work

well... SWIM evaporated a small sample (about 1 drop from a eye dropper)of this solvent on a very clean surface and the only residue left is a very tiny bit of liquid (1% or less from sample volume) that seems unable to evaporate, even after 2 hours.

Googling the brand only results links do their on-line shop. the info available is the same as on the bottle label...
Googling the components... well, the label says: contains naphtha, xylene, and medium aliphatic. SWIM knows what are the first two....
anyway it didn't evaporate completely, SWIM feels it's a bad idea using it... (or could the residue be harmless?)

SWIM will browse some more hardware stores, but is also considering to order some limonene from the internet.

Thx.

leaving residue doesnt sound good.. but give it some more time to see if it evaps.. xylene will mean you cant freeze precipitate and also that it will pull some more plant oils and the so-called 'jungle spice', so it wont be pure dmt.

keep looking for hardware stores yeah.. Well I think limo is anyways muuuuuuuuch nicer to work with, but you'll change a bit of the process (you cant evaporate it, have to salt out your alkaloid with some acidic solution, and then freebase that.. )

So can someone tell me if this is normal,like flakes you see on the pic?


This time cleaned with soda and waited 30 minutes before pull hepthan of,200 gram mimosa=1,9 gram with 3 pulls

I learned its much easier to use much spice when extracting

Well done! That's mighty fine looking Spice you got there. Excellent yield as well.

SWIM was wondering what to do with leftover naptha after most has evaporated and crystals have formed. They tell me there is maybe 100ml total naptha left, with some crystals still floating in it. Should they just throw it back in the freezer and wait for it to evap some more?

SWIM used q21q21's tech, with what appears to be beautiful results! (no weight, but shiny white crystals! )

I hope your naptha isnt evaping in the freezer?

Anyway, if there are a few floaters in there, filter it through a coffee filter and keep the naptha for next extraction.

SWIM did his first extraction and asked me to say Thank you Nexus!

He used Lazyman's tek scaled down to work with 100g of powdered MHRB. After evaporating naph from his first pull, instead of crystals, he got a baking tray full off small yellowish droplets with the consistency of honey and no smell at all. It made him very, very happy
Could this be because the use of a fan to speed evaporation created oxides? or the moisture in the air attached to the dmt making it loose solidness?

off course he immediately flushed it down the toilet because it may be illegal in his country...

no smell sounds weird... yeah evap with a fan might have created oxides, or what I suspect happens a lot is a certain film of naphtha/alkaloids creates that has a surface tension that prevents it all from evapping, so one has to scrape and rescrape a few times to solidify.. you can redissolve this all in alcohol/IPA/acetone and evap onto some herbs for smoking, or you can try redissolving it in small amount of warm naphtha, and putting in the freezer for crystalizing..

well... when SWIM said "...and no smell at all", he meant at room temperature. At evaporation temperature it smelled somewhat like mothballs.
He confessed later he accidentally inhaled some of its vapours and experienced some pleasant feelings through his body and some beautiful visual effects.
Next time will be more careful...

It was SWIM's understanding that you to a freezer precip...is that not the same as evaporating?

Thanks for the help!