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#21 Posted : 3/8/2010 3:43:24 PM

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Lies, ignorance, deception, falsehood, hypocracy all cloaked in a twisted culture with self-serving "morals" and religons. Bah, humbug.

Credit police for over-reacting. Credit police, society and lazy reporters for false information. How about you self-serving, twisted mother-frakkers start putting the real "credit" where it is due? How many people have been KILLED (direct OD, vehicular accident, violence, accident, . . . ) in Vicksburg just this month (today is the 8th) thus far due to alcohol, cigarettes and prescription drugs?

Giving the credit where it is truly due here - ignorance and hyocracy.

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#22 Posted : 3/8/2010 4:06:05 PM

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Pandora wrote:
Lies, ignorance, deception, falsehood, hypocracy all cloaked in a twisted culture with self-serving "morals" and religons. Bah, humbug.

Credit police for over-reacting. Credit police, society and lazy reporters for false information. How about you self-serving, twisted mother-frakkers start putting the real "credit" where it is due? How many people have been KILLED (direct OD, vehicular accident, violence, accident, . . . ) in Vicksburg just this month (today is the 8th) thus far due to alcohol, cigarettes and prescription drugs?

Giving the credit where it is truly due here - ignorance and hyocracy.

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#23 Posted : 3/8/2010 4:10:22 PM

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While this is yet another sad ignorant article, it has MUCH less BS and scare tatics that I have seen in any newpaper refering to DMT. Coming from Vicksburg MS (near where my grandparents used to live) this is nothing short of a maricle. Sure a few grams having a street value of a bagillion-million-kazillion dollars is pretty stupid, but whatever that's any fauliece department anywhere in the US. 3 $10 bags of MJ quickly turns into a bust that stopped the trafficing of mj all over the west coast...yeah right whatever.

Still, the guys on probation, driving around with grams of DMT in his car. Bad move my man, bad move.

For safety's sake, if you must drive with the sacrament on you, don't pack up more than you need. Anything over a gram just ain't smart...and if you can't hide a gram of spice in your car where the fauxliece can't find it, poo on you.

Still, it's sad. LSD on Steriods...yup that's exactly what DMT is. I usually get my LSD first, THEN start it on a rigorous training exercise and spike his Vitamin B shots with testoterone...good stuff.

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#24 Posted : 3/8/2010 6:23:51 PM

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Anger inspires passion. Passion inspires action. Action is what solves problems and gets thing done. Not getting angry is what allows governments to trample all over our rights. I say getting angry is the right response to such absurdity.


Beautifully said, but notice how the anger leads to action in your line of thought. Istead of of spouting out assumptions and anger on the nexus boards, go work on the CEL project....

and just a heads up, all you guys that yell at reporters or whoever on these boards, I dont think theyre reading ;/
 
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#25 Posted : 3/8/2010 6:27:13 PM

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This is some of the worst reporting I have ever seen in my life.
Great Job, Vicksburg! Your reporters are pathetic.
Our forum greatly outweighs such ignorant iniquity.

Who the hell drives around with 8 grams, anyway?
The guy must be a dealer????
If you're reading this Patrick Andrew Taylor,
Let me say that I think you deserve every punishment they make you endure
(even though NO ONE should be locked up for possessing an endogenous neurotransmitter,
still...where does selling get you? Hmmm....)







Swim and some of swims friends all get together for an extraction on a boat in the middle of the ocean or wherever you feel like making this story take it to, then when the extraction is done and all of the spice is ready for personal examination, all of the swimmers then drive to their respective planets with the results of the extraction. this is due to cost and ease of making one LARGE batch over everyone making small batches.. its just more efficient.

BUT, none of the monkeys involved in that test are A. under probation, B. drunk, C. Stupid enough to get pulled over.

besides that, swim knows a narcotics dog and officer, the dog don't know dmt from salt. so as long as any swimmers have a good hiding spot in their space ships, and dont have anything that a doggie CAN smell, (pretty much anything but dmt) they're safe.

Does make me wonder where the hell they get that price from? all the spicers i know would never sell their products. anyone that wants to be introduced to our good friend gets however many free samples as is needed, then if they wish to continue that path they are brought in amongst our circle to extract together, the appropriate financial means are divided equally as are the results. typically the host for the day gets food/drink brought to him for hosting the extraction party.
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#26 Posted : 3/8/2010 6:33:12 PM

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and just a heads up, all you guys that yell at reporters or whoever on these boards, I dont think theyre reading ;/


Great. I, on the other hand, consider it to be a possibility, considering this IS the DMT-Nexus and all, and there ARE hundreds of countries viewing it.
I like knowing they could read my opinion if they stumble through google following up on their reports.
I'm not just going to automatically assume they aren't watching.
Someone does a poor job, I let them know. Hell, I've even tried to get e-mails to speak directly but I can never find them.
 
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#27 Posted : 3/8/2010 6:50:42 PM

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Thanks for posting this.

I agree I think writing to reporters and their quoted specialist and posting on these boards can be very helpful. Even if some or most don't care, all it takes is a couple more.... in the right social position to have their eyes opened.... Not only were the articles packed with BS, that was some of the shittest writing period I have ever seen come out of a newspaper....
 
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#28 Posted : 3/9/2010 3:23:30 AM

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Lonewolf,

I do not want to assume anything, and I certainly do not wish to provoke more negativity to this thread,

but it seems to me that your issue might not be house's "outburst" but is stemming from a personal issue you have with him.

You said: "Doesnt bother me, youre the one who has to live with the anger." and so I would like to ask you,
how do you not become outraged when you read an article like that? Do you even use DMT?

I just can't believe a dmt user would give another dmt user crap for being angry about this. Just doesn't make sense to me.

 
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#29 Posted : 3/9/2010 3:34:04 AM

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TheNtt wrote:
Lonewolf,

I do not want to assume anything, and I certainly do not wish to provoke more negativity to this thread,

but it seems very clear to me that your issue is not with house's "outburst" but is stemming from a personal issue you have with him.

You said: "Doesnt bother me, youre the one who has to live with the anger." and so I would like to ask you,
how do you not become outraged when you read an article like that? Do you even use DMT?

I just can't believe a dmt user would give another dmt user crap for being angry about this. Just doesn't make sense to me.



Why?

I say if you can deal with a situation without rising to anger, then all the better for you.

I thought the article was nothing short of hilarious... but that said, it's mainly because my anger issues on this subject have been dealt with via previous articles and you can bet this one won't be the last.
 
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#30 Posted : 3/9/2010 3:37:12 AM

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soulfood wrote:
TheNtt wrote:
Lonewolf,

I do not want to assume anything, and I certainly do not wish to provoke more negativity to this thread,

but it seems very clear to me that your issue is not with house's "outburst" but is stemming from a personal issue you have with him.

You said: "Doesnt bother me, youre the one who has to live with the anger." and so I would like to ask you,
how do you not become outraged when you read an article like that? Do you even use DMT?

I just can't believe a dmt user would give another dmt user crap for being angry about this. Just doesn't make sense to me.



Why?

I say if you can deal with a situation without rising to anger, then all the better for you.

I thought the article was nothing short of hilarious... but that said, it's mainly because my anger issues on this subject have been dealt with via previous articles and you can bet this one won't be the last.


If you are able to rise above the anger after reading that article, then you should understand that the article will make others angry and there is no need to give them crap for it Pleased
 
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#31 Posted : 3/9/2010 3:40:19 AM

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I wonder how they came up with the $400 a gram idea.


Unfortunately, we have our beloved Erowid to thank for this (though it likely originated elsewhere and is undoubtedly not solely Erowid's fault). I wonder at the pertinence of their including this info on the site.


Mississippi, man...what a friggin hellhole. Worst reporting I've read, thus-far.
 
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#32 Posted : 3/9/2010 4:07:53 AM

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burnt wrote:
Anger inspires passion. Passion inspires action. Action is what solves problems and gets thing done. Not getting angry is what allows governments to trample all over our rights. I say getting angry is the right response to such absurdity.


very well said.

I couldnt agree more.
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#33 Posted : 3/9/2010 4:08:43 AM

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Search Vicksburg DMT on google, what are the first two things you see?

We have a wonderful hub here to speak directly to the world about one of the most important things in it's existence.
 
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#34 Posted : 3/9/2010 6:56:04 AM

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TheNtt wrote:
Lonewolf,

I do not want to assume anything, and I certainly do not wish to provoke more negativity to this thread,

but it seems to me that your issue might not be house's "outburst" but is stemming from a personal issue you have with him.

You said: "Doesnt bother me, youre the one who has to live with the anger." and so I would like to ask you,
how do you not become outraged when you read an article like that? Do you even use DMT?

I just can't believe a dmt user would give another dmt user crap for being angry about this. Just doesn't make sense to me.



Sometimes I wonder how many different lessons the spice hands out....

I think everyone who sees misinformation being thrown around about something that they hold so close to the heart will get upset,...but the spice has shown swim that anger is an emotion that you endulge, that does absolutely nothing but blinds you, and you dont have to give in to it unless you want to.

And I dont have some personal issue with House, its more with anyone who makes statements like this....


This is some of the worst reporting I have ever seen in my life.
Great Job, Vicksburg! Your reporters are pathetic.
Our forum greatly outweighs such ignorant iniquity.

Who the hell drives around with 8 grams, anyway?
The guy must be a dealer????
If you're reading this Patrick Andrew Taylor,
Let me say that I think you deserve every punishment they make you endure
(even though NO ONE should be locked up for possessing an endogenous neurotransmitter,
still...where does selling get you? Hmmm....)

and the people that stand behind such statements....

and for the record, I have never used DMT

 
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#35 Posted : 3/9/2010 7:02:30 AM

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So who else drives a car with 8 grams????
The other guy says the original report was .5g. That's a little more believable and wouldn't automatically make me assume he was one.
Then someone suggested they probably weighed the containers, too.
Anyway, just goes to show how the cops/reporters blow things out of proportion.
I hate DMT dealers. Sorry!

 
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#36 Posted : 3/9/2010 5:36:59 PM

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Lonewolf,

Thank you for your honest reply, and for not taking offense to my post, as I mean no disrespect.

However, you've further confused me with your statements,
"but the spice has shown me" and "For the record, I've never used DMT".

Regardless, I think the statements you've pointed out in House's post are actually extremely valid points. The wealth of knowledge here definitely far outweighs the misinformation spread through bad news reporting, and anyone who seeks true information can see that. Even people who don't can see- as house pointed out, we actually appear above the article in a google search. I'm really not understanding what your beef with that statement is.

You say that saying the person arrested is a drug dealer is a blind statement, and that you have an issue with anyone who stands behind such statements. Would you make the argument that the arrested individual was NOT a dealer? He either was or wasn't, and I'd say the odds greatly favor him being a dealer. Reason being, you don't need 8 grams of dmt for yourself, or all your friends. Can you provide a sound explanation for why someone would need to drive around with that much DMT? I can't, other than dealing.

Even though the greater issue here is the misinformation and disrespect shown in the article, the individuals who chose to drive around with 8g's are actually an equal problem. If people weren't driving around with dmt on them, dealing or not, there would be no articles to write and less chances to lie to the public about our sacred molecule.

Furthermore, after reading through your posts, I find it quite ironic that you are able to "not give in to anger", yet you cannot seem rid the hint of arrogance from the posts you directed to house. I personally think statements like "it made me laugh alittle (not with you)" clearly displays a lack of respect, and a lack of enlightenment. That is my personal opinion, and it will be the last I discuss it to avoid further derailing this thread which has a much greater importance.
 
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#37 Posted : 3/9/2010 11:47:30 PM

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TheNtt wrote:
Lonewolf,

Thank you for your honest reply, and for not taking offense to my post, as I mean no disrespect.

However, you've further confused me with your statements,
"but the spice has shown me" and "For the record, I've never used DMT".



Regardless, I think the statements you've pointed out in House's post are actually extremely valid points. The wealth of knowledge here definitely far outweighs the misinformation spread through bad news reporting, and anyone who seeks true information can see that. Even people who don't can see- as house pointed out, we actually appear above the article in a google search. I'm really not understanding what your beef with that statement is.

You say that saying the person arrested is a drug dealer is a blind statement, and that you have an issue with anyone who stands behind such statements. Would you make the argument that the arrested individual was NOT a dealer? He either was or wasn't, and I'd say the odds greatly favor him being a dealer. Reason being, you don't need 8 grams of dmt for yourself, or all your friends. Can you provide a sound explanation for why someone would need to drive around with that much DMT? I can't, other than dealing.

**Youre about as bright as the police officers... Youre absolutely right, he doesnt need 8 grams for himself in one session, but maybe it wasnt only for him and maybe he didnt have any intent to sell.... maybe he was going into the woods for a year and wanted to stock up. Point being, we dont know, and then someone has the nerve to say he deserves whatever he gets. This is the attitude that makes me question as to whether or not youve ever tried the spice...
And youre right, this is the first link when you google it, and unfortunately people will see ignorant and childish comments like that.


Even though the greater issue here is the misinformation and disrespect shown in the article, the individuals who chose to drive around with 8g's are actually an equal problem. If people weren't driving around with dmt on them, dealing or not, there would be no articles to write and less chances to lie to the public about our sacred molecule.

**So lets stop whatever we're doing so newspapers cant bash us? People are always going to be there ,knowingly or unkowningly spreading false information. So this guy getting busted isnt the problem, though it does add some negative awareness, the problem existed before this guy, he only shed some light on it.

Furthermore, after reading through your posts, I find it quite ironic that you are able to "not give in to anger", yet you cannot seem rid the hint of arrogance from the posts you directed to house. I personally think statements like "it made me laugh alittle (not with you)" clearly displays a lack of respect, and a lack of enlightenment. That is my personal opinion, and it will be the last I discuss it to avoid further derailing this thread which has a much greater importance.

** Like was mentioned, this is the first link you get when you google the subject, so I would say forum etiquette is pretty important, especially when you think the eyes of the world are on you. And all this anger you feel I have towards house is all spin youre putting on it. It was the message and not the messenger that made me say something. and though it might have gotten alittle out of control and maybe some other things were brought up along the way, the message is dont let anger rule you, and should be kept off these boards, no need to spread the negative friend.



 
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#38 Posted : 3/10/2010 6:40:42 AM

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Yep, I'm as smart as a police officer. Rolling eyes
 
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#39 Posted : 3/11/2010 4:22:41 AM

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The thing that gets me here is how did the cop know what it was? DMT is not something you see around so knowing what it is or what it looks like is not going to be a common thing. I think this guy got pressured and told them it was DMT otherwise they would have to have spent allot of time and money figuring out what it was. DMT is not that well known.
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#40 Posted : 3/11/2010 4:28:49 AM

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The thing that gets me here is how did the cop know what it was? DMT is not something you see around so knowing what it is or what it looks like is not going to be a common thing. I think this guy got pressured and told them it was DMT otherwise they would have to have spent allot of time and money figuring out what it was. DMT is not that well known.

Mass spec tells you everything.

Or the guy himself confessed it to be dmt. This may be seen as easing the work of the police and can give him a bonus. He could have said anything like agarose or cellulose or bovine serum albumin but then the mass spec test would come out and he'd be both a felon and a liar.


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